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MOTO JUNKIE
08-07-2006, 10:57 PM
Anyone use a heat barrier under the seat and tank? I need a product to block heat. Will this have a negative effect on the bike?
I am so tired of having "boiled eggs" in the crotch after a ride. I can deal with heat on the leg, but a sweaty bottom makes for monkey butt.
(sorry if I am beating a dead horse here) thanks, Matt:biker:
Anyone use a heat barrier under the seat and tank? I need a product to block heat. Will this have a negative effect on the bike?
I am so tired of having "boiled eggs" in the crotch after a ride. I can deal with heat on the leg, but a sweaty bottom makes for monkey butt.
(sorry if I am beating a dead horse here) thanks, Matt:biker:
Matt,
No, you are not beating a dead horse. First keep in mind that there is NO heat issue with the ST. Maybe this is matter for moto hypnosis.
My suggestion is the following: Honda should at the time of sale, provide a form to the ST buyer stating 1) that you are over 75 years of age, 2) that you have no further use for reproductive organs which may be permanently damaged by excessive heat, and 3) that you should not use the ST when ambient temps exceed 80F.
The blanket was the only fix I haven't tried. It seems to me that it will confine the heat even more to the area where you ant to disperse it. This will cause even greater heat to rise past your feet and legs up to your torso. Heat buildup on this bike rises back to the operator instead of being chanelled away.
Thanks,
Vlad:)
AzDesertRider
08-08-2006, 08:31 AM
Anyone use a heat barrier under the seat and tank? I need a product to block heat. Will this have a negative effect on the bike?
I am so tired of having "boiled eggs" in the crotch after a ride. I can deal with heat on the leg, but a sweaty bottom makes for monkey butt.
(sorry if I am beating a dead horse here) thanks, Matt:biker:
There is a product available called the "heat blanket" It mounts under the upper fuel tank & drapes over the bike from the tank all the way to the pass seat & down behind both side panels. I purchased one back in 03. even though I did not really have any heat complaints I decided if the bike could be even better than I'm all for it.... I did not notice "much" of a difference, but still have not taken the blanket off, even though it's a PIA when ever I have to do any maintenance under the tank or seat. The orig blanket was designed by Joe Zulaski & turned over to another distributor for marketing. I can't remember where I bought it, two wheel innovations maybe? not sure.
RibsST1300
08-08-2006, 09:43 AM
I just installed one from the front of the tank to end under the passenger seat, and it extends dowward to the bottom of the tank/seat and side covers to saddlebags..
I could tell some difference on shorter rides, less heat directly to crotch from between tank/seat. However, on longer rides the entire bike gets so heat soaked that I still get a burning hot seat and gas tank. the gas tank is actually hotter down low where the fuel is-the top exposed to full sun is the coolest part.
I did notice that most heat now is coming out side vents, hitting knees and deflecting into gas tank and crotch.
I found that the lower the windshield is, the less heat is channeled that way, I guess due to change in airflow and backpressure.
What I used onder the seat and tank was-Mylar/fiberglass/thick foil sandwich...beware this was 1/2 inch thick-compressable, and it was difficult to get the gas tank back down in place.
There is a product available called the "heat blanket" It mounts under the upper fuel tank & drapes over the bike from the tank all the way to the pass seat & down behind both side panels. I purchased one back in 03. even though I did not really have any heat complaints I decided if the bike could be even better than I'm all for it.... I did not notice "much" of a difference, but still have not taken the blanket off, even though it's a PIA when ever I have to do any maintenance under the tank or seat. The orig blanket was designed by Joe Zulaski & turned over to another distributor for marketing. I can't remember where I bought it, two wheel innovations maybe? not sure.
Dear Rider,
I'm curious why anyone would go to the expense and pain in the butt to install something like the "heat blanket" you are describing??? And then have the added frustration of the "heat blanket" to deal with at service intervals, when you don't need it in the first place?
Maybe I missed the real purpose of the "heat blanket". I know that it gets pretty cold in the desert at night. Perhaps you are only riding your bike at night and the "heat blanket" keeps you toasty.
I'm actually looking forward to November and December here in New England so that I can use my ST again and remain toasty.
Vlad:bow1:
MOTO JUNKIE
08-08-2006, 03:10 PM
Ribs,
thats where I am most uncomfortable: in the crotch. After my last ride, my wife and I dismounted and I told her to put her hand on my seat, and the tank. She was shocked at the higher temp. I touched the front of her seating area and it was room temperature. I need help........:mad:
AzDesertRider
08-08-2006, 04:14 PM
Vlad,
Like I said, I did not have a heat complaint in the first place, but, back in 03 when I installed the "Heat Blanket" there were lots of complaints & this was touted at a "cure". I figured that even though I did not really have an issue with the heat, if I could make my bike better than I would. I live in the South West Desert & ride in temps exceeding 115 for hours & hours at a time. I have owned & rode 3 other bikeS in like temps & its hot no matter what bike I'm riding. Each bike has it's own characteristics, but not one of them was a deal breaker for me. This heat thing has always been very subjective. For me, it's not an issue with my bike, heat blanket or no heat blanket.
Vlad since you stoped riding your ST sometime last month because it was too hot [remember old posts] how many miles did you put on it in the few weeks you rode it before you parked,it to base these opinions on ??
Vlad since you stoped riding your ST sometime last month because it was too hot [remember old posts] how many miles did you put on it in the few weeks you rode it before you parked,it to base these opinions on ??
Gene,
My average short ride is about 125 miles. A longer ride that I do frequently is approximately 125 miles one way. An all day ride for me is 400-500 miles. I have not been riding the ST during the hot weather simply because the bike runs too hot.
I just came in from a short ride. The temps here have dropped to the low 70's in the evening.
This I can tell you without any confusion, I have recently ridden the ST hundreds of miles. The unusual amount of heat produced by this bike makes it unpleasant for me to ride when the temps near 80F.
Vlad:)
RibsST1300
08-08-2006, 08:57 PM
Ribs,
thats where I am most uncomfortable: in the crotch. After my last ride, my wife and I dismounted and I told her to put her hand on my seat, and the tank. She was shocked at the higher temp. I touched the front of her seating area and it was room temperature. I need help........:mad:
well..the blanket I did was a www.Summitracing.com part. It seemed to help some, but is not a cure-all. (part # the-14100) I also bought some aluminum AC duct tape at home depot to tidy things up. I had to make multiple cuts to make it fit the correct shape. Sadly, after 50 miles-the seat mounting bracket was too hot to touch, even though it was mounted above the blanket, and the only part going through the blanket was the 5 mounting bolts into the frame. Everything else in that general area was not burning hot, so the heat had to transfer from the frame.
Try a few things-
Ride without the left glove-get up to highway speed-(55-70) and feel for the source of the heat. Mine is coming out the side vents in front of knee, and wind flow pushing it over kneecap and into crotch. Also blasting into lower gas tank like a blowtorch-heating lower part of gas tank.
Lastly, change the height of the shield, the lower it is, the less hot air is pulled up into your space....
I'm going to try some riding pants with shin & knee guards to see if that changes the shape and height of my legs and blocks that heat blast. After that, I may try the fairing deflectors to further redirect the blow torch.
My legs don't really bother me, even though the lower frame is too hot to touch, even after a short, quick 12 mile highway commute at 80mph, followed by immediate shutdown....
I am still searching for the solution...
the attached pic shows the blanket location and the heat I feel now at speed...
norton
08-08-2006, 09:26 PM
Anyone use a heat barrier under the seat and tank? I need a product to block heat. Will this have a negative effect on the bike?
I am so tired of having "boiled eggs" in the crotch after a ride. I can deal with heat on the leg, but a sweaty bottom makes for monkey butt.
(sorry if I am beating a dead horse here) thanks, Matt:biker:
To answer your question: YES!
In the Aerostich catelog there is a high temp silver backed heat "pad"
It is peel away adhesive on the inside and I turned my rider seat over
and cut up the heat shield and stuck it on, I can tell a difference, it
is made to reflect heat away, can be used anywhere like stuck under
the tank although I used it for the bottom of the seat only.
norton
Lou65
02-22-2007, 08:12 AM
There is a thin film aluminum insulation product that reflects
97% of heat back from whense it came...it may be called
Reflectech...it really works and may be the right thing for
under the seat.....
norton
02-22-2007, 11:13 AM
Call Aerostich in Minnesota. About a year ago I bought a
piece of "heat blanket' or whatever they call it. It is adhesive on one side to stick to the bottom of our seat and the other side that faces the frame is silver reflective material. I was able to use of scissors and cut it up in pieces, it came in a single large sheet, to cover the seat bottom. I think it was about 40-50 dollars. I noticed a nice difference immediately, in fact I have no complaint about heat in that area anymore.
UNTMatt
02-22-2007, 08:27 PM
Try a different seat other than the stock one. One with texture will allow more air to flow. Second, get a Alaska Leather buttpad (http://www.alaskaleather.com/buttpads.html). That will also add to your comfort...in more ways that just 'heat' protection.
Blrfl
02-23-2007, 03:19 AM
The Bead Rider helps, too, but I take mine off when the temperature drops below about 50.
ETA: I don't think the bike has a heat problem, either.
--Mark
Wheels of Fire
02-23-2007, 08:12 AM
Two inexpensive ideas to try...
Heat Blanket: get an old truck inner tube and cut to fit.
Self Stick insulation: Roll of foil lined pipe insulation at WalMart. (I put some of this around the left glove box when I had the fairing off, still too cold out to tell if it helped)
UNTMatt
02-23-2007, 09:42 AM
Please note, I do not have a engine heat issue. My backside became warm when I rode in 100°+ heat on a stock vinyle seat that did not allow any airflow on a black motorcycle. Let my bike sit out in a nice Texas summer sun for a short time and it'll cook your hand in a matter of minutes. That has absolutely nothing to do with a engine heat issue.
The Sargent seat along with the SBP fixed that problem.
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