CampSTOC III - 2007

[Mellow]

There will be give-a-ways from
(Friday night at 9pm):
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DETAILS:

Date

April 19-22/2007
(Thursday thru Sunday)

Place
Cloudland Canyon State Park (http://gastateparks.org/info/cloudland/)
GPS Coordinates - N34 49.798 W85 28.933
(West Rim Campgrounds)
Off I-59 near Trenton, GA
http://www.st-owners.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13330&stc=1&d=1158149010

[ChipSTer]

Sweet!!! I am THERE!!!! When is it? :eek: I know some roads that are an easy afternoon ride from there... If anyone needs help with laying out the roads...
:cool:
P.S. I am probably also available to do some pre-event scouting... Hint, Hint! ;)

[Mellow]

I don't have a time frame yet as I'd like to hear from locals as to what works best in that area. Any suggestions?

[ChipSTer]

Summer is HOT!!! (easily in the 90's) in that part of GA... But it is in the Mountains...(or what passes for mountains in this area) It will be 10 degrees cooler on top.... But I don't have a 'heat' problem with my ST and don't know anyone around here that does... Sometime in May would probably be best... April is rainy... June is starting to get too hot... Or if you want fall type colors/temps (high 70's/low 80's), late September, early October would also work... Of course, I don't care what the temperature is... :D
:cool:
P.S. I've already found a loop or two that could be rides... :D

[gene]

how about mid to late april some of us up north like to go south .

[ChipSTer]

how about mid to late april some of us up north like to go south .
That'll work... Mid March to mid April is the 'traditional' rainy season...
:cool:

[Mellow]

How does April 26-29 (Thu-Sun) sound?

That gives us a Thursday 'Get There' and a Sunday 'Get Home' day and a Fri/Sat for riding.

[gene]

I've never camped but I'm willing to give it a try (hey they have cabins?? )

[Mellow]

They have

73 Campsites :cf1:

and

16 Cottages:couch1:

[ChipSTer]

How does April 26-29 (Thu-Sun) sound?

That gives us a Thursday 'Get There' and a Sunday 'Get Home' day and a Fri/Sat for riding.
Cool... Waiting on you to create the 'EVENT' so that I can call and get reservations... :D
:cool:
P.S. We camping in the East Rim or West Rim area? (if you are taking suggestions - East Rim)... :D

[Mellow]

Let's shoot for the West Rim, then we can have an optional hike to the waterfalls.. :eek:

[ChipSTer]

Let's shoot for the West Rim, then we can have an optional hike to the waterfalls.. :eek:
Are you sure? That means that the guys staying in the cottages will be more separated from the camping group... And the hike to the waterfalls is longer... :confused:
:cool:

[Mellow]

Okay.. I must have read the map wrong.. thought the cottages were close to the West... I'll look again. Then again, it is CampSTOC, not CottageSTOC.. LOL

[ChipSTer]

Okay.. I must have read the map wrong.. thought the cottages were close to the West... I'll look again. Then again, it is CampSTOC, not CottageSTOC.. LOL
Yep...:D But you know as well as I that some will NOT camp... :D (and I may wimp out also).... Not that I'm afraid to walk down a trail in the middle of the night.... alone.... without a flashlight.... in the mountains of NW Georgia.... Nope... Not me....:eek:
:cool:

[Tor]

Yep...:D But you know as well as I that some will NOT camp... :D (and I may wimp out also).... Not that I'm afraid to walk down a trail in the middle of the night.... alone.... without a flashlight.... in the mountains of NW Georgia.... Nope... Not me....:eek:
:cool:

Naaw,,,,,:crackup you'll be alright.
This is an event I actually might be able to make.......

[ChipSTer]

Actually, I ain't skeerrreeed..... I've camped enough that I've come across a lot of critters... Bear (that was fun - left a permanent stain), boar (he never saw me and I didn't stay long), deer in rut (I wasn't his 'type'), bobcat (heard him coming - was being chased by dogs), turkey (now that scared me - almost stepped on him)... And a skunk (good example of close enough is good - was weeks before my nose worked again)...and sundry snakes (cotton mouth, rattler, copperhead...etc...) All good-times.... :D
:cool:

[Tor]

Actually, I ain't skeerrreeed..... I've camped enough that I've come across a lot of critters... Bear (that was fun - left a permanent stain), boar (he never saw me and I didn't stay long), deer in rut (I wasn't his 'type'), bobcat (heard him coming - was being chased by dogs), turkey (now that scared me - almost stepped on him)... And a skunk (good example of close enough is good - was weeks before my nose worked again)...and sundry snakes (cotton mouth, rattler, copperhead...etc...) All good-times.... :D
:cool:

Sooo, what's the deal then? Just tired of camping? Can't be....:D

[ChipSTer]

Nope... Just tired of hot and sweaty... Cottages have A/C.... :D

DANG IT!!!! )(@*#%*&@$@*^@#$%(*@)#&%^@#)*&@$^@)#$(%* :mad:

The dates overlap with Talladega!!!!! @#()*&%@^#$&*(@$^)@$(^*& :mad:

:mw1: :cus: :banghead: :spank1: :censored
:cool:

[gene]

Talk about a fast set-up !!! I'll put it on the calander the month after moonshine can't wait for spring !!!!!

[ChipSTer]

Mellow... You gonna change the dates or not? If not, then I may be unable to attend.... Already have mega-bucks invested in tickets to Talladega (not to mention the fact that I really, really, really, like going to the race)... I guess I have to decide which one I will like better.... :( :cus:
:cool:

[Mellow]

Mellow... You gonna change the dates or not? If not, then I may be unable to attend.... Already have mega-bucks invested in tickets to Talladega (not to mention the fact that I really, really, really, like going to the race)... I guess I have to decide which one I will like better.... :( :cus:
:cool:

I don't have a problem moving it up or back a week... what works?

[motomac]

I will be there. CAMPING!!! RIDING!!! Brewing COFFEE!!! Bacon and eggs for breakfast. Mac

[ChipSTer]

One way or the other.... Doesn't matter to me... Just not THAT weekend... :D
:cool:

[Mellow]

One way or the other.... Doesn't matter to me... Just not THAT weekend... :D
:cool:

Okay... 19th-22nd it is.

[ChipSTer]

Woo Hoo!!!! :yr1: :mw1: :tent6: :tent3: :cf1: :beer3: :woo :clap2:
:cool:

[gene]

cottage price is $95 a nite !! looks like a good excuse to buy some camping gear any body got some old stuff ?

[motomac]

cottage price is $95 a nite !! looks like a good excuse to buy some camping gear any body got some old stuff ?
$95 a night!!! That's as bad as the Gaylord Motel in Nashville for Wing Ding!!! Mac :06biker:

[ChipSTer]

cottage price is $95 a nite !! looks like a good excuse to buy some camping gear any body got some old stuff ?
Yes, but it sleeps 8.... That's only $12/night/person... Of course, you want 8 really, really close friends... :D
:cool:

[gene]

I missed the capacity John the two bedroom has 4 double beds sounds like a 4 man cottage to me !!

[ChipSTer]

I missed the capacity John the two bedroom has 4 double beds sounds like a 4 man cottage to me !!
Even divided by 4 makes it a more reasonable endevor... In fact, it is almost as cheap as a tent camp spot... However those will probably be split as well... :D
:cool:

[ChipSTer]

Mellow.... Did I miss it or is the West Rim/East Rim question still outstanding? The West Rim has more cottages (but they are only 2 bedroom) and the cottages are separated by a trail from the camping. The East Rim has fewer cottages (but they are 3 bedroom) and they are in close proximity to the camping.... :confused:
:cool:

[Mellow]

It would be cool if someone local could check out he campgrounds.. what looks close on the map may in fact be worse in person.

[ChipSTer]

I have been there... :D However, upon further review. And since I will be camping... And it is CampSToc and not CottageSToc... I vote for the West Rim.... The road to the camping area (and cottages for that matter) is much more interesting (motorcycle wise) than the road to the East Rim... So I vote for West Rim... And the cottage guys could ride their bikes over to the camping area instead of walking through the woods...They'll just need to leave by 10:00pm Eastern so as not to disturb the other campers... :D
:cool:
P.S. The 'Station House (http://www.choochoo.com/features/restaurant.shtml)' Restaurant at the Chattanooga Choo-Choo complex would be a nice place to have dinner one of the nights... Reservations required... Only about 30 minutes of freeway to get there from Cloudland Canyon State Park...

[Mellow]

Sounds good to me, the one time I was there I think I was at the East Rim and it was late so I didn't have a chance to checkout the area much. But, what little I was was great.

Based on the last CampSTOC, some will hit the restaurant and some will prefer to bring/cook food at the campground. I've been told there will also be demonstrations - campground cooking demonstrations.:bannana

[ChipSTer]

...campground cooking demonstrations.:bannana
Cooking on camp stoves or over a fire? :tent6:
:cool:

[Mellow]

I'm not sure... the last CampSTOC, Steve buried a cast iron pot w/coals and made a dessert.

I've been told other interesting feats will be performed... :cf1:

I also know motomac goes nowhere without his dual burner campstove.

[ChipSTer]

That'll be so cool.... We going to have demonstrations for every dinner???
:cool:

[Mellow]

That'll be so cool.... We going to have demonstrations for every dinner???
:cool:

I have no idea... I only know of a couple demos and one is for breakfast.

As it stands, this whole event has taxed me beyond my usual event planning efforts. LOL

If it's thrown out there... we might have other demonstrations... Heck, I'll even drop my bike to show people how to pick one up if that's something anyone wants to see.:nuts1:

[TOM BOGNAR]

cottage price is $95 a nite !! looks like a good excuse to buy some camping gear any body got some old stuff ?
Gene I have a 2 person tent for sale. $30 bucks. I could send it to you. If you like it just send me the money, if not just send it back :biker:

[Gunner]

This is great! We may be able to combine two events in one trip - Campstoc and the races at Barber, just 130 miles away.

Steve

[gene]

Tom I know nothing about camping and tents send me a PM on what it is and you could post it in the classified section . If the cottages are that much trouble to get to it sounds like a first camping trip

GWNE

[ChipSTer]

...If the cottages are that much trouble to get to it...
Not really... If you want to ride your bike... Walking thru the woods in the dark shouldn't be a problem either... Should be a well traveled trail.... Site map attached (copied from the website)... :D
:cool:

[Mellow]

Just added the map to the first post..

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13330&stc=1&d=1158149010

[STeve1300]

I'm going!! I will have a "demo" again...another dessert. I know Steve & Tamera said they would also be sharing something. Of course, if B.J. camps this year, he'll have some new gadget to demonstrate. Everyone else....Don't worry... you don't have to bring anything... Last year I thought it would be fun to bring something unusual to share... BJ just happened to have some interesting camping gadgets. At WeSTOC some of us CampSTOCers decided to continue this "tradition". It sorta fills the "down time" around breakfast or after dinner.

For those who missed last year, you may want to read the old posts. Some campers brought little more than a tent, sleeping bag, flashlight, and clothes. Most ate their meals at local restaraunts, and/or picked up groceries (beer & snacks) locally. Many had some means for preparing AM coffee. I, as usual, overpacked and had a lantern, stove, cookware, hammock, campchair, fishing gear etc... Mellow has no planned agenda. Just get together the night before, and pick a route on a map for the next days ride. A couple of us chose not to ride, and just hung out around camp & explored the local area (I tried but did not catch any fish).

There were at least 2 tents per site, and everyone just sorta met in the middle sites for campfire etc. I recommend camping over the cabins just for the social aspect. PS if you do get a cabin, and it rains, expect ALOT of company.

[gene]

Camping is starting to look like an adventure. sounds like one more thing in life that needs to be tryed !!

[Mellow]

Check out MotoCampers.com there's lots of good info there and hints/tips for making it a great experience.

Getting an air mattress will help you sleep well, the thermarest type is good for some but takes some getting used to. Walmart has a 8 inch thick air matress and a 4 inch thick one. I use the 4 inch one and it's more than comfortable. The less air, the better it will be in cold weather.

[gene]

I went there and took a look at the list of items, where do you put all that stuff ??

[Mellow]

I went there and took a look at the list of items, where do you put all that stuff ??
For the ST, I'd recommend the Cabela's Waterproof Duffel
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Item/51/68/59/i516859hz03.jpg
Click for Review (http://www.motocampers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13)

I use the Backpack version for the Wing since the back seat has arms on it for
the passenger and the duffel doesn't work as well with that.

[Tor]

For the ST, I'd recommend the Cabela's Waterproof Duffel
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/content/Item/51/68/59/i516859hz03.jpg
Click for Review (http://www.motocampers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13)

I use the Backpack version for the Wing since the back seat has arms on it for
the passenger and the duffel doesn't work as well with that.

My wife and I got 2 of these (regular size). Great bags.

[Tor]

I went there and took a look at the list of items, where do you put all that stuff ??


http://www.st-owners.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13212&d=1157851133

:D :tent3:

[Mellow]

http://blink.smugmug.com/photos/94218967-M.jpg

[gene]

If I attached a helmet to the top bag the bike would handle the same as when my wife is there !!! Only quieter, but I like the noise !! Thanks guys

GENE

[ChipSTer]

Mellow... Some of use are going on a ride Oct 28 and will be within 3 miles of Cloudland Canyon State Park... Do you need us to stop and check on anything? :06biker: :03biker: :biker: :04biker: :D
:cool:

[Mellow]

Mellow... Some of use are going on a ride Oct 28 and will be within 3 miles of Cloudland Canyon State Park... Do you need us to stop and check on anything? :06biker: :03biker: :biker: :04biker: :D
:cool:

Sure, if you want.. I've been there before so I know it's a nice little park.

[ChipSTer]

Sure, if you want.. I've been there before so I know it's a nice little park.
If you (or anyone else) thinks of a specific question (or would like to see a picture) about the park, let me know and I'll stop by and see if I can determine the answer... Otherwise we will get our answers via internet/phone...
P.S. Is anyone planning on holding 'blocks' of campsites or is everyone 'on their own' pertaining to reservations?
:cool:

[Tor]

If I attached a helmet to the top bag the bike would handle the same as when my wife is there !!! Only quieter, but I like the noise !! Thanks guys

GENE

ohhh, sorry,,forgot,,,,,your wife ......is not ridin' her own bike,,,,,,well,,,its gonna be somewhat crampy,,,,back there then.....:shrug2:

[gene]

Tor this will be a solo adventure.

[Tor]

Tor this will be a solo adventure.

ohh,,ok :o: well then you shoulda space for everything you need back there. :D I use 2 straps and D-rings + throw a cargo net over the whole affair for piece of mind.

[Mark]

If I attached a helmet to the top bag the bike would handle the same as when my wife is there !!! Only quieter, but I like the noise !! Thanks guys

GENE

Gene!!!
You better hope your wife never reads this!!! :-)
(or no one points this post out to her...hmm... blackmail for beer!!!)

Mark

[Tiny]

I'm in!

[Diggers1300]

I went there and took a look at the list of items, where do you put all that stuff ??


Only way 2-up!

[ga06rider]

I'm interested. Only live on the other side of Atlanta. Probably be more interested in sharing a cottage if anyone's renting one. Done enough camping and April can be pretty wet.

[Trekker]

I had something of an informal list going before "the crash"... and the count I have is about 19 so far. I have all my plans made to get to Cloudlands by Friday 4/20.

[ChipSTer]

I'll be there on Thursday evening... Add me to your list (if I'm not on it already... :D
:cool:

[Trekker]

Here is the list I have so far:
Mellow, ChipSTer, Gene, Tor & Lois, MotoMac, Gunner, STeve1300, Tiny, ga06rider, Biker George, forgetaboutit, Diggers1300 & wife, Trekker, kdscoates, nyener & Dan B, EdsST, BigBlackST :D Thats 21 so far.

[gene]

My wife Lisa will be along also and Kreis Weigel is coming too.

[forgitaboutut]

ok...I just made reservations (camping) if anyone wants to share my site,your more than welcome!
there's still a couple feet of snow here...I can't wait!!!!:04biker:

[HOOT]

Put me on the list, I plan on being there too..:03biker:

[George]

Here is the list I have so far:
Mellow, ChipSTer, Gene, Tor & Lois, MotoMac, Gunner, STeve1300, Tiny, ga06rider, Biker George, forgetaboutit, Diggers1300 & wife, Trekker, kdscoates, nyener & Dan B, EdsST, BigBlackST :D Thats 21 so far.

Add me to the liST. I'm gonna visit mom for a couple days after MoonSTOC then head yur way.

Maps! I need maps!

<not really. ;^>

George
in Kingman, Arizona

[Trekker]

OK--- Updated list-
Mellow,
ChipSTer,
Gene & Lisa,
Tor & Lois,
MotoMac,
Gunner,
STeve1300,
Tiny,
ga06rider,
Biker George,
forgetaboutit,
Diggers1300 & wife,
Trekker,
kdscoates,
nyener & Dan B,
EdsST,
BigBlackST,
Kreis Weigel,
Hoot,
George

[ChipSTer]

Any thoughts on firewood??? I know that most campgrounds don't have firewood laying around and the firewood that they do have can be purchased from the camp store for an excessive amount. I would be willing to go $20 toward a truck load of firewood being delivered Thursday evening... Anybody else have any thoughts on this? :confused:
:cool:

[forgitaboutut]

i'll put in 25
we need alot of wood for 3 days!

[ChipSTer]

We'll also need someone local to coordinate it though....:D
:cool:

[Trekker]

Fire good! I'll bet that this may take care of itself as a result of you guys mentioning it. :D

Check out the new feature to register your attendance in the events block on the home page! This will be a better method to identify who is coming instead of someone keeping a post updated. Way cool!!!

[ChipSTer]

Just playing with my mapping software... And knowledge of living in Chattanooga for 30+ years (and simultaneously owning a motorcycle)... One loop is only about 100 miles. The other is 230 miles...
P.S. I bet BritMan could come up with some suitable day trips centered on the campground!!!! :D
:cool:

[ChipSTer]

Here is another one that goes from Cloudland Canyon State Park (in Georgia) to Fall Creek Falls State Park (in Tennessee).... About 250 miles...:D
:cool:

[gene]

Hey guys I got a strange request, my wife is flying to Atlanta on thursady morning to see her sister for a few days and then she will bring her up to me at CampSTOC on friday evening. Here is the request I'm not sure how to ask, she is staying over friday night with us since we rented a cabin which is all good and she would like to go along on a day ride thru the mountians if I could find her someone to ride with saturday. I don't know if this something that should be asked or not, but if anyone is interested in a pillon for a few hours I have a sister in law looking to go for a ride, very nice, mid 40's, 5'4"and 125# . I really feel stange asking but I did. THANK GENE

[Trekker]

Gene, Not a problem. I would not mind having a passenger. I'm sure that will work out just fine. :D She may not even choose to ride with me! LOL

Can we assume she will have a helmet? Since I myself will not be bringing a spare (helmet that is, not sister-in-law).

edit to add: I can even produce a permission slip from my wife if required.

[Mellow]

If I can make it, which isn't looking good at the moment, I also don't mind having a passenger.

This is a good group so you'll have lots of offers..

[biggerjim]

hey yall

i'm a brand new member and i sure would like to go camping with yall
in april i am dying to take a trip on my st1100 i just bought,
but if my wife puts in to go, i will have to drive the goldwing
she has to bring everything we own. and i dont think the st will hold it...
i am looking forward to going, do i need to reserve a campsite..



THANKS
BIG JIM WRIGHT

[Trekker]

Hey Big Jim, You need to reserve a site, unless you make arrangements to share a site with someone that has a reservation.

May I suggest that those of us that are confirming attendance indicate a day of arrival & if your campsite is available for sharing... and any other important information you think might help. These are loosely planned gatherings after all! LOL :)

[gene]

Guys thanks for offering to allow my sister in law a chance to enjoy sport touring with a great group of people. I guess we'll wait and see who is there that weekend and go from there. Thanks again, my wife gave her sister a call and she was thrilled to get the chance to go riding. It has been years since she was on bike and that was a harley, isn't she in for a nice surprise !

[Trekker]

Gene, When are you riding down? I will be coming down through Maryland on Wed. 4/18, then planning to ride the BRP & Cherohala the next 2 days... getting to Cloudlands Friday 4/20.

[gene]

Dave I'm going to drop Lisa off at Dulles airport around 6am 4/19and be on the bike heading south by 9am is my plan at this point and to be in Knoxville, Tn at Kreis Weigels for dinner. Him and I will ride over to CampStoc real early friday morning.

[George]

Guys thanks for offering to allow my sister in law a chance to enjoy sport touring with a great group of people. I guess we'll wait and see who is there that weekend and go from there. Thanks again, my wife gave her sister a call and she was thrilled to get the chance to go riding. It has been years since she was on bike and that was a harley, isn't she in for a nice surprise !

I'm gonna be there, could bring the back rest for the Corbin. She'll need ATGATT, of course, and I ain't gonna haul that from AZ!

[George]

I'm gonna have to print a map or two to find this place. Never been there. Gotta believe there's lots'a good roads in the area, tho.

I have a week between Moonshine and CampSTOC. Gonna visit mom for a couple days so not sure when I'm gonna arrive.

Also, I'm terrible at making reservations. Anyone got a tent site to share?

[ChipSTer]

...Also, I'm terrible at making reservations. Anyone got a tent site to share?
George, I would be honored to share a site with you... :tent6: :tent3:
:cool:

[George]

George, I would be honored to share a site with you... :tent6: :tent3:
:cool:

Okay, John, consider it done. When are you arriving?

[ChipSTer]

I'm planning on arriving about 4:00pm local time (eastern)... Can't miss me... I'll be the one with the midnight blue Honda ST1300 (and a tent).... :crackup Seriously though, I'm 6'5", 280, bald, glasses, mustache and goatee (I know that style has a name, I just can't think of it)... Small orange-ish Eureka Zeus tent(claims to be a 2 man tent, but 2 of me just would not be comfortable in it). Motorcycle has the flat black Turbo-Tom rack on the back. I've got white dragon stickers just under the ST1300 logo. I wear a white HJC cymax (flip-up) helmet and all black tourmaster jacket and matching pants. I'll try to get a site near the action... (we might have to threaten a few with bodily injury if they don't go to sleep at a decent hour)...
:cool:

[EASTKYRIDER]

Hey guys,another newbie here.This will be my first of hopefully many STOC events.I've only been riding street bikes about a year and just got the ST about two weeks ago.I look forward to getting in some good riding down in Georgia. See ya'll there!

[forgitaboutut]

Hey guys,another newbie here.This will be my first of hopefully many STOC events.I've only been riding street bikes about a year and just got the ST about two weeks ago.I look forward to getting in some good riding down in Georgia. See ya'll there!

oh man,are newbies poppin up everywhere! It Must be spring!!:D
today is the first day of the year that I get ride!!:04biker:

Welcome aboard STai3:welcome1:

[Biker George]

Here is another one that goes from Cloudland Canyon State Park (in Georgia) to Fall Creek Falls State Park (in Tennessee).... About 250 miles...:D
:cool:

...and I can't believe you left Suck Creek Rd out after some of your earlier posts!

I was on it tonight...

Regards,

-Geo

[ChipSTer]

...and I can't believe you left Suck Creek Rd out after some of your earlier posts!

I was on it tonight...

Regards,

-Geo
But, but, but... It IS on there... from Powell's Crossroads over the mountain to the Chattanooga side and then out Mullen's Cove Road... :confused:
:cool:

[Biker George]

Hi Chipster -

I guess I was looking for the early part at the base of Signal Mountain. When I rechecked, it appears that you pick it up a bit later...

Regards,

-Geo

[Gunner]

I called to make a reservation today and was told that they could not guarantee a reservation in the West Rim Campsite, the campsites are first come first serve. So....has anyone else been told this or have you made a reservation for a specific area?

[ChipSTer]

Hi Chipster -

I guess I was looking for the early part at the base of Signal Mountain. When I rechecked, it appears that you pick it up a bit later...

Regards,

-Geo
S'aight... The first part is booooorrrrrrinnnnnnggggggg.... The very best part is over the mountain... :D
:cool:

[Trekker]

ChipSTer, it's way cool of you to plot these route suggestions out. Thanks!

[nyener]

I called to make a reservation today and was told that they could not guarantee a reservation in the West Rim Campsite, the campsites are first come first serve. So....has anyone else been told this or have you made a reservation for a specific area?

I made my reservation online. Electric campsite w/2 tents for 3 nights costs $60. I paid with a credit card. I received an email confirmation with a confirmation number. I'm supposed to bring it with me. I could not reserve a particular site, but I believe that I'm guaranteed one. It shouldn't be a problem for Dan Boothby and me since were planning to arrive Thursday morning.

[forgitaboutut]

I called to make a reservation today and was told that they could not guarantee a reservation in the West Rim Campsite, the campsites are first come first serve. So....has anyone else been told this or have you made a reservation for a specific area?

I also made mine online...

[sandman]

2 more coming from Mobile,

John (ChipSTer) those look like great rides, me being a newbie to Mapsource and the ZUMO, is there any way to change the files you uploaded in .pdf into Mapsource files so I can upload them as routes in the ZUMO?

Gordon

[ChipSTer]

2 more coming from Mobile,

John (ChipSTer) those look like great rides, me being a newbie to Mapsource and the ZUMO, is there any way to change the files you uploaded in .pdf into Mapsource files so I can upload them as routes in the ZUMO?

Gordon
No problem... I have Mapsource myself.... Which route do you want???
:cool:

[sandman]

Thanks, john

How much trouble to convert both routes?

Gordon

[ChipSTer]

No problem... I'm going to post them separately so that I can give a little description... :D
This first loop is only 105 miles and ends back where it began - Cloudland Canyon State Park.
The first part is a scenic drive north down the top of the mountain. Along the way, you'll pass Lookout Mountain Flight Park. This is very scenic and is good for a photo op. Supposedly some of the very best hang gliding conditions in the world. Further down the mountain (and just before you drop off into south Chattanooga, you'll pass Rock City (Everybody knows about Rock City). At this point you'll be traveling down Ochs Highway (pronounced 'OX'). Pretty curvy and quite a bit of traffic on the weekends. Once you reach the bottom of the mountain, you'll pass the Incline Railway (the worlds steepest trolley car system) that travels up and down the side of Lookout Mountain (could be another photo op). From here you'll travel through part of downtown Chattanooga until it is time to get on Hwy 27 (north) and cross the Olgati (pronounced 'OL-JAA-TEE'). Just across the river and over Missionary Ridge you'll exit Hwy 27 and get on Signal Mountain Road (Hwy 127) headed north. Turn right onto Mountain Creek Road (after you pass the Komatsu plant). Now the fun part starts...:crackup You're going to turn left on what is locally called the 'W' road (in reality I believe it is called West Road - you'll see why it gets it's name when you get to the end. From the top (you'll know when you get there) bear left onto East Brow Road (there are a couple of photo op places on this road - don't freak out when the road changes into Palisades Dr... Keep following the route until you get back to Hwy 127 south (back down the mountain)... Be sure to keep a look out for the flying saucer house about a third of the way down... At the bottom of the mountain, you'll take a right turn onto Suck Creek Road - this got it's name because of the creek being name Suck Creek - which got it's name from the river boat captains because of the way the water entered the river caused it to 'suck' the boats into a sand bar - created by said creek - which in my opinion would indeed 'suck'... Just after you cross suck creek (and I mean immediately after you cross suck creek) you will take a left onto River Canyon Road (will turn into Mullens Cove Road just about the time that TVA's Raccoon Mountain pumped water storage facility becomes visible across the river)... This road has some good sweepers and some tight goat tracks... The scenery varies from run-down, poor white trash trailers to $200 million dollar homes (sometimes right next door to each other)... Of course the river is visible nearly the whole way on your left while you've got the mountain going up on your right... When you reach the end of this road, turn left on Hwy 27 and in a couple of miles turn left again on Dixie Hwy (Hwy 41)... When you cross the bridge over the Tennessee River you will be able to see (to the left) TVA's old, defunct Hale's Bar Dam that was replaced (way back when) by Nickajack Dam further downstream. As soon as you leave the bridge, turn right on 134 (along the edge of the lake - may be a photo op somewhere near here)... This road will turn into 156 after it crosses (over/under - don't remember) I24... Stay on 156 as it crosses the 'edge' of a mountain - it has some good sweepers and some tight turns - be careful (no goat tracks here)... Turn left on 377 and go back up the mountain, turn left on 90 (turns into 301 at the county line), turn left on White Oak Gap Road (Hwy 136) and go back down the mountain. Follow this road thru Trenton and back up the mountain to Cloudland Canyon State park... I have traveled this route (on a motorcycle) in two hours... I don't recommend doing it that fast... :22yikes:
:cool:
P.S. Caveat: I haven't live in Chattanooga for 12 years.... Some of my data my be out-of-date...

[ChipSTer]

Here is the second installment (I'll try and get to the third (and best all-day one, tomorrow - It's getting late)...

This route incorporates 4 of my favorite roads (+ a few that are fun, but don't make my top 10 list)...

From Coudland Canyon State Park you'll drop down into the valley (headed east) and head basically toward Chatsworth. The roads between the park and Chatsworth are ok and can be fun, but they are only to 'get to the fun roads'... From Chatsworth, the fun will start with the road up the mountain and past Ft. Mountain State Park (very nice road and really a lot of fun)... From the end of this road you'll head mostly north until you get to Duck Town (and who can forget nearby Dog Town, Turtle Town, and last, but not least Burger Town - Don't believe me? Look it up!)... But the weird city names are not this region's claim-to-fame... This is the location of the world's largest Copper strip mining operation. This thing is so big that shuttle pilots can see it from space! You'll never notice it from the ground (aside from all the 'slag' hills around the place)... They have put a lot of effort into cleaning up the place and it may be a lot better than I remember... Take a left (south) on Hwy 74... At the bottom of a long straight, downhill (soon after getting on 74), you'll notice on the left some 'stuff' in and around the river (I still have a hard time calling it a river) where the whitewater events were held when the Olympics were in Atlanta. This is also the start of one of the worlds longest flue operated hydro electric operations in the world... And also the beginning of some fun road as 74 hugs the Ocoee River... At the end of the 'fun' part (you'll see the lake open up on your left), Hwy 30 turns right - This can be a fun out-and-back run (if you get to Reliance, turn around and come back - There isn't a better way to get where you're going and you're vely likely to end up on a dirt road if you try)... Follow the route from here (these are just-to-get-there roads)... One note: When you cross Hwy 60, you are only a few minutes from Red Clay (Important location for the Cherokee Indians)... Appison Pike can be fun, but be careful thru Collegedale (home of Little Debbie - and yes they do have a Little Debbie store there - You paying attention ACL????:crackup - also the location of a fairly significant sized 7th Day Adventist College) or you'll get to meet the local law enforcement. Don't ask me what happend to MapSource, but when you go down Hunter Road and get to Hwy 58... just stay on Hwy 58... no need to double back and take a side road to Hwy 58 (again!)... The Webb Road, Kings Road route is a lot of fun with some tight twisties and some elevation changes, but it can be skipped and just stay on Hwy 58 (turns into Hwy 17 once you go under Hwy 153)... Once Hwy 17 takes a 90 degree right and you stay straight (following the route), you'll soon be on Crest Drive. Crest drive winds it's way down Missionary Ridge past some of the 'old money' homes. Lots of photo ops along this road. Once to the end of Crest Drive, another 'get you from here to there' section will take you to Lookout Valley where you'll come up the valley in the shadow of Lookout Mountain... Then up Ochs Hwy (pronounced 'OX') and back down the top of the mountain (past Rock City and Lookout Mountain Flight Park) to Cloudland Canyon State Park. I have ridden most of these roads but I have never ridden this entire route... YMMV
:cool:

[sandman]

Thanks, John, for the files and the writeup.

I've run into a few quirks with Mapsource inserting unwanted loops. Usually when I delete the waypoint back to the previous one and then place a waypoint near the unwanted loop it will redraw correctly.

Both routes look like they'll be good rides.

Hope to see you at CampSToc..


Gordon

[ChipSTer]

Last installment - Park to Park Loop (Cloudland Canyon to Fall Creek Falls) RTE - Lunch at Fall Creek Falls buffet...
Start out toward Trenton... Down the mountain, thru Trenton, then up the other side... Across that mountain, down the valley, across the Tennessee River and then up Monteagle Mountain (the most treacherous section of Hwy [according to the truckers due to it's 10% grade - very hard on semi's brakes - we will NOT be on the Hwy] east of the Rocky Mountains. Then we'll head Northeast up the mountain to Fall Creek Falls... There are only a couple of stretches of road that are boring... Hwy 8/111 being one of them... The road through the park is absolutely wonderful... Except for the traffic and the Rangers... :D Eat lunch at the Fall Creek Falls Restaurant and then head East on Hwy 30... Down the mountain to Pikeville and up the mountain on the other side... Then it is back roads half way back on the top of the mountain (maybe a dirt/gravel section - about 2 miles - I think I heard that they paved it, and it saves about 50 miles of riding). Then back off into the Sequatchie Valley via Henson Gap (another great hang gliding mecca) to East Valley Road... Then you will head down the valley (left) until you come to Powell's Crossroads where you'll hang a left and go over Suck Creek Mountain... As soon as you get to the bottom on the other side, take a right on Mullens Cove Road/River Road. This will deposit you onto Hwy 27 (turn south - left)... Turn left again on Hwy 41 and cross the Tennessee river on the 'old' bridge.. Turn right at the end of the bridge and then follow this road until you reach Hwy 377... From this point on you'll be doing some 'back-tracking' to reach Cloudland Canyon State Park...
This is the route that I would be most interested in taking on Friday (due to the lower amount of traffic in Fall Creek Falls)... Lots of photo ops along the way...
:cool:

[forgitaboutut]

can one (or some!?) of you help me with my new zumo 550?...
I got the map of campstoc to load.....but I can't find it anywhere in my Zumo
I looked uinder routes...nothing....I tried tools/user data/import data nothing..

Then I read the manual and it says ...open my comp.;drive letter for zumo, and copy and paste file into zumo...did that;put it in Garmin folder....put another of the same file in GPX folder...put another of the same file on sd card...???? should I be able to pull up the route map somewhere???:confused:

[Biker George]

Hello, All.

Online reservations are good; that's how I did mine.

However, when I rode out there a number of weeks ago, the ranger told me that every weekend there is at least 2-3 people that show up without their reservation confirmation - or they did the wrong date when they set it up.

Just be careful...

Looking forward to meeting everyone there next month.

Regards,

-Geo

[slammr]

Mellow,
I might consider taggin along with you guys at least into Alabama. I want to go to Barber Motorsports Park that weekend for the AMA races. Please send me any details on you trip to louis.stokes@oracle.com. Thanks

[Trekker]

Slammr... the details are all here in this thread. There isn't any real plan in place other than a certain area of the campground has been identified where folks will be staying, and a bunch of great routes have been suggested for our day rides. Riders will be arriving on different days and plans are developing as we go. There is probably going to be a group going to dinner locally, and hopefully we will be enjoying some fun around a campfire after sundown. 8-)

[Trekker]

Here's a question for all those planning on attending CampSToc III-

(if you have it) What bike-to-bike comm gear do you have? CB or FRS/GMRS? And what channels do you normally use for bike-to-bike?

I am still toying with the idea of a transceiver and have not yet decided what to get.

[Mellow]

Mellow,
I might consider taggin along with you guys at least into Alabama. I want to go to Barber Motorsports Park that weekend for the AMA races. Please send me any details on you trip to louis.stokes@oracle.com. Thanks


As of now, I'm not gonna make this one... But, not all that surprising, I wasn't able to make the 1st one either.. did make the 2nd one. this will be the 3rd.. Oh, and I organized all three..that's the best part about this group.. name a time and place and even if you don't show up.. you'll wish you did.

I'll know more as the date approaches but work has me pinned the month of April as it currently stands.

[gene]

Dave some of us have found out that cobra cb walkie talkies and cobra fmrs radios use the same cable for hook up and we can switch between the two types of radios depending on the group choice, we found the fmrs to be better compared to cb walkie talkie

[ChipSTer]

Here's a question for all those planning on attending CampSToc III-

(if you have it) What bike-to-bike comm gear do you have? CB or FRS/GMRS? And what channels do you normally use for bike-to-bike?

I am still toying with the idea of a transceiver and have not yet decided what to get.
I have FRS & GMRS capability on mine... No CB (yet...) :D
:cool:

[nyener]

I have a Kenwood GMRS & haven't yet used it. I'm hoping for some help at CampSToc to dial in the VOX. I'm tempted to buy a PTT but think I'll save the money unless the VOX setup doesn't work for me.

[Trekker]

I'm thinking I want the PTT anyway. I do not wish to expose others to my "singing voice" with any unwanted broadcasts. :22yikes:

[gene]

Thanks Dave we appreciate that, We use PTT switch because of riding two up it's the easy way and she can still hear both ends of the communication bike to bike but the other person only hears me and I'm using a starcom1

[Trekker]

I think maybe Gene wants to have me serenade him around the campfire!!! :hyp1:

[forgitaboutut]

anybody know how the GPS reception is ga.? I'm wondering if I should buy an
antenna for my Zumo?!

[ChipSTer]

anybody know how the GPS reception is ga.? I'm wondering if I should buy an
antenna for my Zumo?!
LOL!!!! GPS reception is fine in Georgia (Tennessee too)... :cool:

[Mellow]

Yeah...as far as GPS is concerned I've never had an issue in any part of the Smoky Mountain range... In the Rockies, I've lost reception before but it never lasted longer than a few seconds at a time and never long enough to make me loose my way - it's usually next to a mountain bluff or wall face on one side and tall trees on the other... not even something that should be and issue.

I have had my XM radio on my Roady2 lose reception many times. I don't know enough about the zumo to know if this is an issue with it or if you were asking about radio reception or gps location reception.

[forgitaboutut]

somebody told me in remote parts of the country I WILL lose the signal (GPS)
I think he included a part of GA. in there... I just wanted to clearify!
Thanks! I'm not buying an antenna!

[Mellow]

Even if you did, for the gps anyway, it won't be enough of a loss that you will be lost... I have lost reception from time to time.. but I've been on the West Coast, the Canadian Rockies and Rocky Mtns and the Smokies and don't remember loosing enough of a signal that I was lost.. typically, you'll never even notice you've lost it before you get it back... You'll be fine, don't spend the money until you've used the unit and know it will help you..

[Trekker]

I don't know 'bout you guys... but I am soooo ready to make this trip. Between Spring fever, work, & school... I really need some by-myself-on-the-road time. A few more farkles... a few more projects at work... gone!

3 weeks and counting!

[forgitaboutut]

I don't know 'bout you guys... but I am soooo ready to make this trip. Between Spring fever, work, & school... I really need some by-myself-on-the-road time. A few more farkles... a few more projects at work... gone!

3 weeks and counting!

Tell me about it!:)
I can't ride my ST because I want make sure a have enough rubber for the trip!
I don't think I would make it without 2 bikes!

[ChipSTer]

somebody told me in remote parts of the country I WILL lose the signal (GPS)
I think he included a part of GA. in there... I just wanted to clearify!
Thanks! I'm not buying an antenna!
I've seen GPS drop a signal if the tree canopy is really, really thick (and I can't say you won't see it drop), however, really, really thick tree canopy doesn't last very long at the speeds we'll be traveling.... :D
:cool:

[George]

You may lose cell service in remote areas (i.e. South East Arizona), but the only reason to lose GPS anywhere in the contiguous 48 is geographic shadows (more likely in the canyons of a big city) or weather conditions.

[George]

Here's a question for all those planning on attending CampSToc III-

(if you have it) What bike-to-bike comm gear do you have? CB or FRS/GMRS? And what channels do you normally use for bike-to-bike?

I am still toying with the idea of a transceiver and have not yet decided what to get.

Should I get a GMRS before heading out next week? If yes, what (cheap) brand?

[ChipSTer]

Should I get a GMRS before heading out next week? If yes, what (cheap) brand?
Motorola makes a reasonably inexpensive model....
:cool:

[Trekker]

Should I get a GMRS before heading out next week? If yes, what (cheap) brand?

I ran out of $$$, so this farkle is on the back burner for now.

[forgitaboutut]

I ran out of $$$, so this farkle is on the back burner for now.

yeah! that goes double for me!

[Daryl]

Kitchen pass approved! :bow1:

I'll be there!.......tent camping and reservations made.

Hey this self employed deal DOES have advantages!

Depart Austin Weds. - overnight in Jackson, MS?? (we will see)

Arrive Thurs afternoon - recover until Friday afternoon :eek:

I'll bring a coffee pot and a cup this time Mac.........

Rides and hikes for me.

Depart Sunday AM.

[TPadden]

I'm thinking of heading that way from the Tampa area.

Tom
Weeki Wachee, Fl.
Gainesville, Mo.

[ChipSTer]

New Friday route... :D
:cool:

[motomac]

Kitchen pass approved! :bow1:

I'll be there!.......tent camping and reservations made.

Hey this self employed deal DOES have advantages!

Depart Austin Weds. - overnight in Jackson, MS?? (we will see)

Arrive Thurs afternoon - recover until Friday afternoon :eek:

I'll bring a coffee pot and a cup this time Mac.........

Rides and hikes for me.

Depart Sunday AM.

You don't need to bring the coffee pot, just a cup!!!

[forgitaboutut]

I cant wait! anything has to be better than this 30s wintery-kina crap we had for the past week and a half...at least no snow on the ground here...

[Trekker]

That's the truth! Man... this weather needs to break so I am not riding out of NY dodging snowflakes!

[ChipSTer]

My CampSToc trip is in jeopardy.... And now I have to depend on the STEALER... This is going to go so badly... I might as well go ahead and throw in the towel now... EVERY time I've dealt with this stealer something always goes wrong... This time, they'll probably order the wrong parts and on top of that the parts will probably be shipped USPS... Which means that the 10 days (until my departure date) will probably evaporate and my bike will probably be fixed two days after CampSToc III is over.... :cus: :cus: :cus:
:cool:
P.S. Photo of my bike as it is now... :banghead:

[gene]

Whats wrong with it john maybe one of us can get the part and ship it overnight to you, my dealer up here has things in 3 days from warehouse.

[forgitaboutut]

you just need the bearings???
order them from HDL NOW
you should get them by next monday mabee....
at least you will have the right parts!

[gene]

put in classifieds what you need someone here has a spare in his garage most likely

[ChipSTer]

Right rear bearings are shot... Both of them (Pic of bearings from parts manual attached)... This should be warranty work... But I would do it myself if I knew how (and had the tools - my garage is NOT set up for that level of mechanic-ing), just because I hate this dealer (65 miles to the next closest dealer). I've also got a shade-tree guy that has a shop that could probably do it (and I trust him)... I've replaced bearings (and races) in cars before with nothing but a brass drift... But the Honda is built to such tight tolerances, I'm afraid to even attempt it (I guess I need to break down and buy the service manual)... It really is all my fault... I wanted to get ALL the tread off the tires before I put on new rubber.... Let this be a lesson to you all.... Don't wait... DANG IT!!!
P.S. Should I have the dealer check the rubber dampers as well? Bike only has 15k on it (but it is a hard 15k)...
:cool:

[forgitaboutut]

that sucks!

[Mellow]

John, I have 2 bearings at home that were backups when I had my ST13. I keep meaning to bring them to an event for give-aways.

it's not the full set of 3 but I might just have the one you need. If you have a part number - I'll check when I get home and mail them to you tomorrow morning.

[MikeP1300]

Right rear bearings are shot... Both of them (Pic of bearings from parts manual attached)... This should be warranty work... But I would do it myself if I knew how (and had the tools - my garage is NOT set up for that level of mechanic-ing), just because I hate this dealer (65 miles to the next closest dealer). I've also got a shade-tree guy that has a shop that could probably do it (and I trust him)... I've replaced bearings (and races) in cars before with nothing but a brass drift... But the Honda is built to such tight tolerances, I'm afraid to even attempt it (I guess I need to break down and buy the service manual)... It really is all my fault... I wanted to get ALL the tread off the tires before I put on new rubber.... Let this be a lesson to you all.... Don't wait... DANG IT!!!
P.S. Should I have the dealer check the rubber dampers as well? Bike only has 15k on it (but it is a hard 15k)...
:cool:

It may not be over yet. I had those go out on my '04 at about the same mileage. My dealer service guy found a crossover match in a 4 wheeler bearing. Only difference was it had seals on both sides. I bet there are more 4 wheelers in Bama than ST's!! That's a paired set that have no seals on the inside. You need 2 right? The other problem will be getting the old bearing off. Mine fell apart and had to be torched off the collar.

If you get the bearings, any decent auto shop with a press and torch should be able to do the job. Just bring them the drive flange.

Good luck

[Daryl]

In case any one is an early bird to Cloudland Park............

NOTICE: Wednesday, April 18, Highway 136 and many of the roads in Dade County will be closed during the hours of 1 p.m. until 5 p.m. for Tour de Georgia (http://www.tourdegeorgia.com/), an international cycling event. This annual event is a multi-day, professional cycling stage race that draws the most elite cyclists and showcases one-of-a-kind towns and terrain of the Southeast. Please be aware that no one will be able to access nor leave the park during these hours

[Trekker]

ChipSTer- any updates on your bearing problem?

Daryl- Thanks for the heads up!

[edwinger]

That is a nice place to ride you will need to check out the Little River Canyon park it is nice also. I have been there a few times myself.

[ChipSTer]

ChipSTer- any updates on your bearing problem?
Yep... All the parts have been ordered and are on the way (overnighted from Honda to Honda Direct Line ---> overnighted to me - one third of the cost is only shipping!)... I should have them by Friday and I'll have all weekend to FIX IT MYSELF! No joy with the stealer (I was quoted a Thursday or Friday of next week - can you say, "Bye, Bye, CampSToc"???)... My 'shade-tree' guy told me that he won't have anyone 'overnight' parts to him, so he quoted me the same time-frame. However, he explained to me how I could do it myself... Almost a step-by-step tutorial. So I'll keep him (for now)... The stealer can kiss my money good-bye (I'll only go back to him if two conditions exist; 1) I have plenty of time. & 2) Total repair covered by warranty)....
I've got my oil (finally)... Opted for MX4 Mobil ($7+/quart) because it was right there in front of me... So I'll be changing the oil and breaking down the flange while I wait for the parts to arrive. I do hope that HDL doesn't send them so that they need a signature... :22yikes:
:cool:

[MikeP1300]

John;
You may want to get a six pack ready (for your shade tree guy) in case you need to call him into service to press the old bearing off and the new ones on the collar. I know it can be done without a press, but it'll save you lots of time and many stessful moments.

Sit down, take a few deep breathes and have a brew. Positive vibes from everyone now.

[forgitaboutut]

Good luck on the bearing job John, hope to meet you at campSTOC!
Keep us informed if you have time how it's going!
:popcorn

[MikeP1300]

In case any one is an early bird to Cloudland Park............

NOTICE: Wednesday, April 18, Highway 136 and many of the roads in Dade County will be closed during the hours of 1 p.m. until 5 p.m. for Tour de Georgia (http://www.tourdegeorgia.com/), an international cycling event. This annual event is a multi-day, professional cycling stage race that draws the most elite cyclists and showcases one-of-a-kind towns and terrain of the Southeast. Please be aware that no one will be able to access nor leave the park during these hours

Thanks Daryl; I didn't realize TDG was that week. May as well find a spot on the road and watch the parade go by. It's a time trial that day, but should still be exciting. I'd like to be on the road to Brasstown bald on Friday.

Seems like the race uses all the good mc roads so we'll have to pick our routes and timeing carefully. Who is the ride leader?

Joe, we need a bicycle smiley.

[ChipSTer]

Good luck on the bearing job John, hope to meet you at campSTOC!
Keep us informed if you have time how it's going!
:popcorn
Bearings (and service manual) arrived via UPS overnight this afternoon. I am happy to report that the bearing change has been completed (I've attached a few pics). It was amazingly easy and believe it or not all it took was a BIGGER hammer!!! :D I think I've dinged up a few of my sockets by using them as drivers, but all-in-all it came out amazingly well.... Should I be worried that some of the ball bearings were missing from the old bearing (and I couldn't find them)? I've attached a pic of the bad bearing (it was only a matter of time - and probably not that many miles)... Next time, I'm going with the super-duper, double sealed bearings!!!
P.S. To support the flange while I drove the bearings out, I used a 2" PVC coupler. It held up really well and I think it should be good for a dozen or so uses (and the best part; only cost one dollar)...:grin:
:cool:

[MikeP1300]

good job John. You'll have to tell us all about it around the camp fire.

[Trekker]

Excellent news!

[ChipSTer]

Looks like the weather is going to absolutely perfect!!!! :grin:
:cool:

[I'mAllIn]

Plans are firm...........I'll be heading over there on Thursday, from Memphis area, if anyone wants to ride along. I'll be sharing a tent site with an ol' buddy of mine, BikerGeorge, or anybody else that has space....! I'm easy to spot.........as I'll be riding a blue '06 FJR. Hell, somebody's gotta keep this bunch honest.

Is anyone planning on going over to the Barber races on Saturday? I may be interested if there's any taker.

See you all there!

[forgitaboutut]

hopefully the weather will holp like that!!!
now hows your oil problem going John?...

When you get a chance can you post part#s for bearings?
preferably The "super-duper, double sealed bearings"!!!
I think I'm just going to have them pulled and put new ones in @ 16K service
so I don't go what you and other people have gone through!
Thanks!

[ChipSTer]

...now hows your oil problem going John?...
Well, I can certainly tell you that I will be a loyal customer of AutoZone... The manager was shocked that someone had returned used oil and gotten a refund and he apologized profusely to me for my trouble...(you don't suppose he was worried about a lawsuit?)... Anyway, he gave me 8 quarts of MX4T!!! I still have to do the work of flushing it out and re-filling, but I think I can handle that... I went to wal-mart for a gallon of Rotella ($8.88) to use for the flush... I'll keep the other 4 MX4T's for the next oil change.... Woo Hoo... Finally, some good luck!!!
:cool:
P.S. He found 3 more quarts of the 'used' stuff in the MX4T containers...:22yikes:

[forgitaboutut]

glad to see you have a change of luck!
I wish they could catch that SOB !!!

[Trekker]

Can you believe this weather!!?? Up here on the north coast we have a pending winter storm coming starting tonight, with snow predicted through Monday! :hyp1:

Looks like by Wednesday that may not be a problem, so I should be able to get out of Rochester on schedule.

[forgitaboutut]

Can you believe this weather!!?? Up here on the north coast we have a pending winter storm coming starting tonight, with snow predicted through Monday! :hyp1:

Looks like by Wednesday that may not be a problem, so I should be able to get out of Rochester on schedule.

I hope So! We just went through that a couple days ago!
Now it's 50! and all the snow is gone!:hat1:

[ChipSTer]

Well, the bike is finally ready.... Now all I have to do is a test drive... To make sure I've got the front wheel mounted correctly and it doesn't pull (left or right)... And then I've got to make sure that I can get all my stuff attached... :D
:cool:

[George]

Folks, the ST-Owners banner is packed away on the back of ReSTored, complete with Moonshine signatures. It'll be at CampSTOC next week, prolly thursday evening. See y'all there.

[Mellow]

Folks, the ST-Owners banner is packed away on the back of ReSTored, complete with Moonshine signatures. It'll be at CampSTOC next week, prolly thursday evening. See y'all there.

Cool, thanks George, is there any room left on it?

[ChipSTer]

15 minute test drive (10 miles of a blend of straight and curvy) reveals that the bike is perfect (does not pull in either direction)!!! And ready for CampSTOC... I wish I could have new tires and new oil EVERY time I ride!!! Man, oh, man is CampSToc going to be fun!!! :hotpepper
:cool:

[forgitaboutut]

Glad to here it John!
I ran mine for a 15 minute ride.got my Xm rollin' and I can't wait!!!
all ready for take off! we leave wed, going to stop in knoxville,(or somewhere
there abouts...)and ride Deal's Gap Thur. morning and then off to campSTOC!:hotpepper :beer3: :tent3: :clap2: :bannana :hat1: :cf1: :tent6:
you might be able to tell but....:excited:

[ChipSTer]

...and ride Deal's Gap Thur. morning and then off to campSTOC!...
Oh, man, the road between Deal's Gap and CampSToc are INCREDABLE... If you need some ideas/pointers, let me (or the list) know... I'm sure we can point you to some don't miss roads!!!
:cool:

[forgitaboutut]

Oh, man, the road between Deal's Gap and CampSToc are INCREDABLE... If you need some ideas/pointers, let me (or the list) know... I'm sure we can point you to some don't miss roads!!!
:cool:
Sure!
If you could post em here with mapsource, that would be cool!

[STeve1300]

This is what I plotted in mapsource.....Does this cover any good roads??

[ChipSTer]

Here's my opinion of the best roads.... :04biker:
P.S.... Start early in the morning!!! (256 miles from Dragon to Cloudland Canyon - one way)
P.P.S. Wish I could go with you... HHmmmm... Maybe a Saturday route??? Out and back would definitely take ALL day!!!
:cool:

[h2orider]

Steve what day are you coming to Knoxville gene will be riding down to my house on Thursday the nineteenth if you want to ride down with us on Friday morning let me know if you’re staying in Knoxville Thursday night let me know a and don’t mind sleeping on a air mattress are welcome to stay at my house

Let me know your plans I can give you some better roads than the dragon actually if you’ve if you have already ridden the dragons there are some other roads to consider

Kreis H2oRider

[forgitaboutut]

:crackup they both look good to me! this is what I came up with for sunday:crackup ...IF I'm not too burnt out and IF I have enough Rubber!!(I doubt that I willl...:() But I have all honda dealers in the us on my Zumo in case I don't!:crackup

[GaryWayne]

I won't be there until Friday afternoon/evening and I'm staying that the Days Inn in Trenton. I plan on riding over to the park Saturday morning and hope to meet some of you fine people. I especially want to see a Zumo as I want to upgrady my old SPIII and have yet to see a Zumo in person.

[Mellow]

I won't be there until Friday afternoon/evening and I'm staying that the Days Inn in Trenton. I plan on riding over to the park Saturday morning and hope to meet some of you fine people. I especially want to see a Zumo as I want to upgrady my old SPIII and have yet to see a Zumo in person.

Looks like I'll also be there Friday, around noon I think. Gonna head out on Saturday to visit a friend that is having a BBQ in honor of her recently deceased husband then I'm gonna make my way back towards Dallas. I just didn't have the time to take an extra day this go around but at least I'll get in one campfire... :cf1: :hat1:

[Trekker]

Excellent Joe! I look forward to meeting you.... assuming I can get out of New York! :22yikes: (I'll make.... no matter what!)

[Mellow]

I added this to the first post but I'll post a reply here too...

I have five $20 NewEnough.com gift certs I'll be giving away on Friday night at 9pm...

So, be sure and find me as wherever I am at that time, I'll be getting/drawing names.

Also, I'll bring some caps/key fobs/reflective stickers/lic plate frames with me for sale and some for give-a-ways. No one goes away empty handed. :hat1:

[edlee]

I am signed up for a tent site starting Friday evening through Sun evening. Two tents and two vehicles are allowed on the site. Anyone want to share the site?
Ed Lee

[edlee]

Mellow, are you tent camping? Got to figure out where to find you somehow. I feel LUCKY.
Ed Lee

[Mellow]

I am but don't know where I'll be... are they giving out site nubmers w/registrations? I need to call when I get home.

[Trekker]

I think all a reservation does is guarantee a site, not a specific one. (I'm not positive about this as BikerGeorge made the reservation where I'll be setting up. )

[GaryWayne]

Looks like I'll also be there Friday, around noon I think. Gonna head out on Saturday to visit a friend that is having a BBQ in honor of her recently deceased husband then I'm gonna make my way back towards Dallas. I just didn't have the time to take an extra day this go around but at least I'll get in one campfire... :cf1: :hat1:


If I get there in time I'm going to come by the park Friday. I know you just got a Zumo and I'd like to see it. You may not remember but we did meet awhile back at a ST rally at the Ironhorse campground. Me and a friend stopped by for a few hours on our way to Georgia. I want to see what farkles others have done that I need to do!!

[Daryl]

How about whomever are the first there to alert the park folks that we have numerous folks that would lke to be somewhat close?

Maybe mention ST-Owners as the focus?

So do the "comfort stations" have showers - I hope!

West side?

[ChipSTer]

...Also, I'll bring some caps/key fobs/reflective stickers/lic plate frames with me for sale and some for give-a-ways. No one goes away empty handed. :hat1:
Can you bring me a reflective sticker... I want to buy one... Thanks. :D

[ChipSTer]

...
So do the "comfort stations" have showers - I hope!
West side?
Yes... To both... :D

[Mellow]

Can you bring me a reflective sticker... I want to buy one... Thanks. :D

Yes sir, thanks.

[ChipSTer]

I think all a reservation does is guarantee a site, not a specific one. (I'm not positive about this as BikerGeorge made the reservation where I'll be setting up. )
This is a true statement... :D

[ChipSTer]

Yes sir, thanks.

While you're at it, go ahead and bring me a key fob (spot lost a hand this winter) and a ST cap (extra big for my hughmongous noggin)... :D

[Mellow]

If I get there in time I'm going to come by the park Friday. I know you just got a Zumo and I'd like to see it. You may not remember but we did meet awhile back at a ST rally at the Ironhorse campground. Me and a friend stopped by for a few hours on our way to Georgia. I want to see what farkles others have done that I need to do!!

That was my first EaSTOC event, hope you can make it Friday it will be good to meet you again.

[GaryWayne]

That was my first EaSTOC event, hope you can make it Friday it will be good to meet you again.


I'm leaving work at 11:30 and should be on the road no later than 1:00. If traffic is moving Ok I should get to the motel no later than 5:00. I plan on cheking in the coming over to the park so hopefully I can meet up with some folks then.

[Trekker]

Gary, If you don't see any obvious ST-Owners hanging around be sure to just sit tight and see who shows up. Folks wil be out and about, and others will be arriving that day. There is a real possibility that a lot of folks will be going out to a local diner for chow.

[ChipSTer]

I'm leaving work at 11:30 and should be on the road no later than 1:00. If traffic is moving Ok I should get to the motel no later than 5:00. I plan on cheking in the coming over to the park so hopefully I can meet up with some folks then.
Be sure to mention that you're coming over to VISIT someone (and be sure to have a valid name ready - the name of someone that actually rented a site). Otherwise, you're likely to be charged the 'Day Use' fee... :D
:cool:

[motomac]

I will be there Weds sometime PM. I can let them know how many sites we will need. I do have a bit of experience at this. Let me know b4 Weds PM how many to reserve.

[ChipSTer]

I will be there Weds sometime PM. I can let them know how many sites we will need. I do have a bit of experience at this. Let me know b4 Weds PM how many to reserve.
I'll be there... I have Keith Rogers' camp-spot...(I owe him an adult beverage of his choice - maybe two - or four)... And George (the Famous George of Kingman) is sharing with me)...
:cool:

[STeve1300]

Steve what day are you coming to Knoxville gene will be riding down to my house on Thursday the nineteenth if you want to ride down with us on Friday morning let me know if you’re staying in Knoxville Thursday night let me know a and don’t mind sleeping on a air mattress are welcome to stay at my house

Let me know your plans I can give you some better roads than the dragon actually if you’ve if you have already ridden the dragons there are some other roads to consider

Kreis H2oRider

Hi... and Thanks.. but Rich (Forgitaboutut) & I are traveling togeather & will have to figure details out on the fly. Most likely we'll just meet up @ camp thursday afternoon. Also.. note to Gene... I'm leaving Saturday lunchtime for home so w/ packing etc I won't have the time for touring with you & your wife & her sister... sorry... I hope she still has lots of other volunteers!!

PS I do have my latest 'cooking experiment' all packed & ready to go!

[gene]

thanks steve there were a few volunteers. well if want a good tour guide thursday let kreis know hes free thursday and I wouldn't be getting into town till 5 or 6 pm and we will be heading over real early friday morning

[h2orider]

Steve I have more than enough room for two of you I will be at home Wednesday night we don’t have any plans set in concrete if you do need a place to stay let me know you both are welcome

[ChipSTer]

thanks steve there were a few volunteers. well if want a good tour guide thursday let kreis know hes free thursday and I wouldn't be getting into town till 5 or 6 pm and we will be heading over real early friday morning
I'll volunteer too... :D Want everyone to have a good time...
:cool:

[George]

I'll be there... I have Keith Rogers' camp-spot...(I owe him an adult beverage of his choice - maybe two - or four)... And George (the Famous George of Kingman) is sharing with me)...
:cool:

John, thanks for the reminder! I had thought I had responded to someone but couldn't remember who. What day are you arriving?

[ChipSTer]

I'll be arriving on Thursday in the early afternoon (in time to set up camp and then a brisk ride to town for dinner and back before dark).... :D
:cool:

[GaryWayne]

Be sure to mention that you're coming over to VISIT someone (and be sure to have a valid name ready - the name of someone that actually rented a site). Otherwise, you're likely to be charged the 'Day Use' fee... :D
:cool:


Good idea, I had not thought of that.

[h2orider]

If Anyone Is Interested In Riding On Saturday This Is A Route That Has Been Used In The Past By A The Bmw Group That Meets In North Georgia Every Year I’ve Ridden It Several Times Myself There Are Lot A Good Roads Great Scenery

Or If You Would Be Interested In Going Down To The AMA Super Bike Races At Barber Motor Sports Park I Have Several Routes Or We Can Just Run The Slab To The Barber Museum. If You Have Never Been To The Barber Museum It By Itself Is Worth The Trip

Kreis h20rider


Sorry forgot to attach the routes

[Trekker]

Kreis,

edit- That's only 125 miles away! Way cool!

[gene]

What route

[gene]

how early do groups leave for rides? Kreis and I are going to be 11 or 12 getting there, we are going to run some great back roads there from Knoxville,Tn if anyone wants to ride down with us friday morning we plan on leaving around 8am

[Trekker]

Check this out-

from the Barber website:
Note: Special AMA Hours Friday, April 20-22nd, 8am to 6pm.
A Honda Superbike Classic ticket must be purchased to visit the museum that weekend.

Don't know how much over the $10 that would be.

[h2orider]

Gene This Is The Main Route Down There Are Several Turn Off Points We Can Turn Off
1. We Can Turn Off On Route 30 And Go Down To Dayton And Go Down 27
2. We Can Turn Off On Route 8 Go Down To Dunlap In 127 Out Of Dunlap
3. Or At Altamount We Can Turn Off On 56 Down To Tracy And Catch 41

[edwinger]

I an the new guy here I ride a 1800 wing do you have to ride a ST to come to this campout and ride are is it open to all bikes if so I may try to make it. I live in NE Ms so not to long a ride to get there. I will be camping if I make it If I can find a spot.
Eddie H

[Mellow]

I an the new guy here I ride a 1800 wing do you have to ride a ST to come to this campout and ride are is it open to all bikes if so I may try to make it. I live in NE Ms so not to long a ride to get there. I will be camping if I make it If I can find a spot.
Eddie H

Well, I'm on a Wing too.. sure hope I'm allowed..

Yes, you are welcome to join, one thing you'll find out about STers.. They don't care what you ride.. just that you ride.

Hope to see you there. and welcome to the site.

[ChipSTer]

If anybody is coming through Montgomery, AL on Thursday morning (headed to CampSToc) and want to travel the 'back roads', please PM me so that we can set a meeting time/place. Thanks. :D
:cool:

[motomac]

I just got off the phone with diggers1300. He, BJ, &, hoot are in VA. They will probably get to the campground b4 me tomorrow, but will set us all up close together.

[gene]

Motomac if they could set up as close to the cabins that would be great, we got cabin 16. chipster posted a few routes and one is real similar to one Kreis made for us on friday to get there maybe we could combine them and we can meet you guys mid route.

[M2LewisJ]

I'll be driving down from Marble, NC on Friday morning. (I won't even attempt to explain where Marble is located). This will be my first event and sounds as if it will be fun.

You may need to be aware that you could pass through the town of Lafayette, GA. This is a southern town and should NOT be referred to using the French General's name with the same spelling. The correct name is La Faye It, (Faye, as in the girls name. Such as "Faye" Ray).

[ChipSTer]

Motomac if they could set up as close to the cabins that would be great, we got cabin 16. chipster posted a few routes and one is real similar to one Kreis made for us on friday to get there maybe we could combine them and we can meet you guys mid route.
The cabins and camp spots are not at all close on the West Rim... You'll be riding your bike over to the camping area (or walking a trail through the woods)... :(
:cool:

[ChipSTer]

...chipster posted a few routes and one is real similar to one Kreis made for us on friday to get there maybe we could combine them and we can meet you guys mid route.
Can you be near/at Fall Creek Falls State Park around lunch time? That would be a good meeting place... :D
:cool:
P.S. I can't read *.GPX files... :( Only *.GDB...
P.P.S. Fall Creek Falls State Park is NW of Pikeville, TN (up Hwy 30)

[gene]

whats a gbd file is that a streets and trips

[gene]

I figured it out try this one

[STill Fiddlin]

Just a heads up - there was construction on US 27 a week or so ago when I was on it between Summerville and La Fayette. I'd avoid it. Don't know if the construction goes on south past Summerville.

Have fun, dang it...

[gene]

I'm talking to by web cam on the laptop and he says that will work. see you at noon on friday post the road you will be on

[gene]

I mean which way are you going to go on the route where are you entering Tn

[gene]

looking at your route we could meet you over by Mt Leo as it looks like you will be coming north up 56

[ChipSTer]

I figured it out try this one
Can't read that one either!!! :(
:cool:

[ChipSTer]

looking at your route we could meet you over by Mt Leo as it looks like you will be coming north up 56
Original intention is to run the loop clock-wise... If you met me (and whoever is going to do that ride), You'll be back-tracking 32 miles to get back to Fall Creek Falls...(or we could go up 8 to 111 and go into Fall Creek Falls from the back side)... Comments/suggestions?

P.S. I have a little bit of an ulterior motive for this particular route (as it turns south off of Hwy 30 (on top of the mountain between Pikeville and Dayton - right across Hwy 30 from where you guys will be getting on Hwy 30)), it will go right past my Aunt's drive way - She's having surgery on Monday to fix an abdominal aneurism and I want to stop by and give her a hug and let her know that I'll be thinking about her on Monday... I think it would really make her day if a bunch of "Hell's Angels" stopped by... :D
:cool:

[gene]

John we would be coming across rte 8 heading west meet you then ron 30 back around to the east

[ChipSTer]

John we would be coming across rte 8 heading west meet you then ron 30 back around to the east
Sweet.... What time do you think you'll be in the vicinity? Noon-ish? Eastern time? :confused:
:cool:

[gene]

try this one What version of mapsource are you using?

[ChipSTer]

Just a heads up - there was construction on US 27 a week or so ago when I was on it between Summerville and La Fayette. I'd avoid it. Don't know if the construction goes on south past Summerville.

Have fun, dang it...
Still???? I was up through there LAST YEAR and there was construction in that area (from the looks of it, it is going to be a nice, boring, straight stretch of highway)....
:cool:

[gene]

you decide the time as we can leave knoxville anytime and it's just the 2 of us maybe you could call me when you leave cloudland

[ChipSTer]

you decide the time as we can leave knoxville anytime and it's just the 2 of us maybe you could call me when you leave cloudland
No problem.... I'm not sure if Fall Creek Falls is on Central Time or not, but I would like to arrive there around Noon-ish (Central Time). Therefore, you would have to meet me/us at the Mt. Leo Texaco around 11-ish Central Time (it is only approximately 45 - 60 minutes to the Restaurant from there)... PM me and we'll swap cell numbers... :D
:cool:
P.S. I've attached a picture showing the location of the Texaco station...

[ChipSTer]

For the people doing the Park-to-Park route with me on Friday - The plan is to leave the BP Station (on Hwy 136 just west of I-59 in Trenton) gassed and ready to ride @ 9:30AM Central... Personally, I plan on eating breakfast in Trenton (I'll be leaving the park around 8:00AM Central Time) and then hitting the pumps at the BP. Please arrive a little early if possible... I would like to have a pre-ride briefing... Thanks. :D
:cool:
P.S. The riding style will be a shade on the relaxed side of 'brisk' (I don't go as fast as NCSam or BentAero - but it has been a year since I rode with them).... Dress code is ATGATT...

[ChipSTer]

try this one What version of mapsource are you using?
That one worked... I'm on Ver 6.9.1.... Yep.. I like that route... It'll be fun... :D
:cool:

[Daryl]

It's time!!!

Headed out in a few. Weather looks great!

Austin, Tx to Shreveport, La to Jackson, Ms today then Jackson to Cloudland on Thursday.

See y'all there! Ride safe.

Daryl

[gene]

Have a safe trip Daryl.

[Mellow]

Everyone have a safe trip... Hopefully, I'll see you Friday sometime.

I'll be with Trailace on his GS coming from Jackson MS Friday morning. We should get there before lunch then we are gonna set up camp and do this route (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showpost.php?p=217431&postcount=204) that kries posted just to top off the day.

[forgitaboutut]

I'm right on scedule! just have to a quick stop for air! see yoy all thur.!!!:D

[h2orider]

This as an alternate route from Mcminnville let me know what you’ll think about this

Kreis
H20rider

[charles960]

ADD won;'t let me read the entire thread...

Where is the final camp/cabin site? Is there a rally fee? Specific activity Sat evening?

TIA

Charles

[Mellow]

ADD won;'t let me read the entire thread...

Where is the final camp/cabin site? Is there a rally fee? Specific activity Sat evening?

TIA

Charles

Everything is in the 1st thread, no rally fee. At 9pm I'll have some give-a-ways and we should be in the West Rim campground...

There are probably a few there already - I'm sure motomac is there by now.. LOL

[charles960]

thanks!

[Mellow]

Motomac just called me and said all the reservable sites are taken - probably by everyone here - so he's in the walk-in area which is only about 25 yards from where you park your bikes. He's the first to arrive and they just shut down the road to the park for the bicycle race for around 2 hrs.

[ChipSTer]

Is MotoMac sharing with someone?
:cool:

[Mellow]

Not that I'm aware of.. he said all the walk in site are huge and empty .. so, I'm sure there' s lots of room..

[motomac]

OK, here's the deal. If you reserved a space you will be in another area of the park from the walkin area. They allow 2 tents per site and 6 people in the walkin area. $10 a night, showers available, no electricity. BJ and Hoot are in site 1, Diggers and I are in site 4.

[edwinger]

Well I guess I will be there hope to make it Fr night before dark I will just try to find a place to throw me tent if anyone want to share a spot I will check the board before I leave Fr evening. I will be on a Pearl Orange Wing pulling a small White cargo trailer hope to see youall Fr night.
Eddie H.

[Mellow]

Ride Safe.. will see you there.

[Trekker]

Im on my way!!! :D

Left Rochester 8:30 am today, and am now livin' large at a KOA in Staunton, Virginia. Free WiFi !!! Got the Sabres on from NHL.com too! :hyp1: The place is overrun with killer bunnies!!

Thursday is my lazy day on the BRP with a plan to camp at Linville Falls tomorow night. See ya'll Friday.

[Mellow]

Im on my way!!! :D

Left Rochester 8:30 am today, and am now livin' large at a KOA in Staunton, Virginia. Free WiFi !!! Got the Sabres on from NHL.com too! :hyp1: The place is overrun with killer bunnies!!

Thursday is my lazy day on the BRP with a plan to camp at Linville Falls tomorow night. See ya'll Friday.

Excellent, ride safe and see you friday.

[motomac]

OK, here we are sitting around the camp fire in GA. I'd send a pic but I don't how to do it from my phone. Mac

[Mellow]

I'm so jealous... ugh.. glad your having a good time... maybe I'll start a fire in the back yard.

[gene]

motomac what kind of web service is at the camp ground ?