NNESTOC lll '07

[GRN]

:STOC: NNESTOC III '07 :STOC:
Northern New England ST-Owners
September 6-9, 2007
Kancamagus Motor Lodge
Lincoln, New Hampshire

Some Give-a-ways provided by
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I will continue to update this first post as things develop to keep it all in one place and easy to find



Some News for ’07:
• The event has been extended to four days for more riding, and pulled back on the calendar by 3 weeks to offer slightly milder conditions and longer days (more riding!).
• We have changed the format, there will not be predetermined groups and leaders so folks can make their own small groups, and spend their time here riding where they want, when they want, and how they want. A great deal of local route and attraction info is provided on grouprider.com, in the NNESTOC (http://www.grouprider.com/jg.php?g=164) "group". The grouprider site does require a simple registration, well worth it if you have yet to check it out.
• The new venue for this years event offers more in house amenities than have been available in previous years. Those who might seek to have a more rounded vacation experience may do so, and it’s very child friendly as well. They have even agreed to install cave man TV just for us!

Lodging:
Kancamagus Motor Lodge
Kancamagus Highway - Route 112
PO Box 505 - Lincoln, New Hampshire 03251
:call: Tel. 603-745-3365 Toll Free 1-800-346-4205 (outside NH)
Our hosts, Leo & Nicole Marien
From the south - I 93 Exit 32, left (East) off the exit onto Route 112 (Kancamagus Highway), 1.5 miles on the left.

Rooms:
Guests will call and make their own room reservations and guarantee the reservations to their own credit cards.
Thursday Sept 6th early bird (biker) special for those who can make it - $69+tax
Friday & Saturday nights, Sept 7th & 8th - $79+tax per night

There are a total of 24 rooms blocked out right now; 15 Rooms with 2 double beds, and 9 Rooms with 1 queen bed. ***If you’re riding solo please plan to split a room with two beds and save the singles for the couples… I expect that we’ll need all the capacity we can get.

Meals:
Saturday, Sept 8 “Group Dinner” is in the works.... should have it nailed down by the end of July. I'm working on an alternative to the original idea that should fit everyones interests better... working on a :pig1: roast... so get any tasteless Harley jokes you have to share outta your system now :rolleyes:

There is a “meal plan” that includes your choice of any items on the menu (attached at bottom of post) for breakfast & Dinner, for a flat rate of $30 per person/day, which looks to me like a pretty decent deal. There are also several eateries in the area worth investigating… fielders’ choice. I like riding to breakfast…

In addition to the amenities listed on their web site, they will be making some special provisions for our group including a specially installed cave man TV :cf1: ; and a bike cleaning station set up complete with hoses, rags & kick stand rests (Leo and Nicole ride too...)

:tent6:
For those who would like a more wholesome Northern New England experience, there is a White Mtn. camp ground just a few miles east of town on rte 112 along the river, it's a great spot. If your thinking about this option, be prepared to stay warm. I looked at weather.com today to get "average" temps for that time of year, and the information they had was very optimistic IMO. Average lows in the mid 40's? Maybe... but be prepared for the possibility of evening lows in the 20's & 30's too... welcome to the Whites!

Stuff:
Dave has some things up his sleeve for prizes, and a promo package for area business that folks can make use of, I'll get that info up here in detail as it develops. With some luck we'll also have a pile of NewEnough gift certs again this year.

Historic Threads on Previous Events:
'05 NHfcSTOC (NNESTOC I)
'06 NNESTOC II - Unfortunately this thread is no longer complete as a result of a server crash... if folks who were there would like to repost photos and such of the event that would be awesome... really awesome!

:1st: Thanks to all the great folks who have attended, the last two years have kicked:butt1: and hose were just practice ya'll... this round is going to a new level and I'm really looking forward to sharing it with everyone! Rubber down, see ya in September :clap2: :headbang: :capwin: :hat1:

[GRN]

This post will be a running list of attendees... I don't know how right this is, and I don't know who's bunking up, or registered for the Sat night dinner gig... please post so I can get a handle on it :D I know that as of today, there are 11 of 24 rooms taken, and 16 for dinner.

*** Please remember to call and register for dinner Sat. night if you're not staying at the KML, or if yuor bunking with someone and they made the room reservation... they probably didn't pay for your dinner!

:04biker: GRN ST13 NH 2 (confirmed)
:04biker: krsquare ST13 NH 1/2? (confirmed)
:03biker: STeveST1300 ST13 NJ 2 (confirmed)
:biker: Big Al ST13 MA 1 (confirmed)
:biker: Northeast Rider PA ST13 1 (confirmed)
:03biker: Bones ST13 MA 1/3? (confirmed)
:biker: billxp ST13 NY 2 (confirmed)
:biker: :biker: H2OSKIER & Bride ME 2xST11's 2 (confirmed)
:03biker: campernh ST13 NH 1 (confirmed)
:04biker: BlueSTormer ST13 RI 2 (confirmed)
:biker: NewbornST1300 ST13 ON 2 (confirmed)
:PoPoST1: CTYankee R12RT CT 2 (confirmed)
:03biker: AgSTreak ST13 CT 1 (confirmed)
:biker: Roadsurfer ST13 ON 1 (confirmed)
:06biker: roadancer ST11 MA/NH 1/2? (confirmed)
:04biker: STeve3b3 ST13 MA 2 (confirmed)
:biker: KempoSter ST13 CT 2 (confirmed)
:03biker: JCorwin ST13 CT 1 (confirmed)
:06biker: Mick ST11 TX 1 (confirmed)
:biker: :biker: Bruce & Lorraine ST13 ON 2 (confirmed)
:biker: STKenny ST13 TX 1 (confirmed)
:06biker: Motomac ST13 OH 1 (confirmed)
Carl & Dawn, and my local buddy Steve.... after this I give up... still have more registered at the lodge than I have here... there's going to be more than 30 bikes this year for sure, maybe 40, maybe more. Groovy!

[GRN]

Also, if you had posted pics after last years ride, they got lost in the crash, would really love to see some make it back up in last years thread for new folks to see, if ya have 'em handy :D Thanx.

[RoadSurfer]

Yeah, GRN, I'm booked at the Lodge and for the dinner.

Small correction to the specs on your list above: I'll be on my '05 ST1300/A rather than my former ST1100 (RIP) that is (was?) shown in my avatar.

See ya there, if not sooner at NESTOC in June!

- Dave

[GRN]

Thanks Dave :cool:

Do you have a room with two beds? If so, interested in sharing the room?

[SteveST1300]

Greg I will dig around and see what pics I can find and throw them up as soon as I can.:03biker:

[RoadSurfer]

Far as I know, it's a single, Greg. Sorry. There's also a slight chance my wife may come along.

[GRN]

Dave, I hope she does, this is a great event and crew for SO's :)

[Big Al]

Hey ya'll, could I get a little help with the previous post? Please?

Also, if you had posted pics after last years ride, they got lost in the crash, would really love to see some make it back up in last years thread for new folks to see, if ya have 'em handy :D Thanx.OK Greg,
I only have this one pic. But, I think it does a pretty good job capturing the entire experience of last year. :rolleyes: :D

[GRN]

... I don't know about the entire experience... but it was certainly a component ;) I wonder if Sam has recovered yet :eek:

[Bones]

Did anyone ever get a picture of RC? In and out like a lightning flash from Texas, that boy.

I recall we did some riding, didn't we? Were there photos of that?

[GRN]

Did anyone ever get a picture of RC? In and out like a lightning flash from Texas, that boy.

I recall we did some riding, didn't we? Were there photos of that?

We were so busy doing some kickin' riding that we forgot... :D

[Big Al]

Bones!
You take the BEST pictures! :bow1: :D

[GRN]

Nelson looks baked! :D

[Bones]

Bones!
You take the BEST pictures! :bow1: :D

Thanks, Al. Hey, I just noticed that the sweathshirt Dr. Bones is wearing says "OW"...is that his response to your bottle-opening talent?

(By the way, people, Al's bottle-opening talent is genuine, not smoke and mirrors.)

[Big Al]

Bones: I think Bob's shirt is saying WOW!

Yes! . . It is true. :shrug2:
Before birth I was genetically altered with a built-in beer bottle opener inside my mouth. :beer2:
It has served me well in my years growing up,:beer3: as it continues to offer me the opportunity to entertain and be the life of each party.:drool1:

You should see what I can do with a can of beer. . . ;-) :rolleyes:

[GRN]

You should see what I can do with a can of beer. . . ;-) :rolleyes:

Sounds like a good excuse for a preride :rolleyes:

[Big Al]

Right On!!! - I'm game! :D

[GRN]

You're on dude, gotta get some of the stuff in ME south of Rte 2 charted... grandma stays home though, she's a little out o' hand! ;)

[AgSTreak]

OK Greg, I've got my reservation for dinner and lodging. Is there anyone looking to share the room? Remember, make a dinner reservation for yourself.

[GRN]

OK Greg, I've got my reservation for dinner and lodging. Is there anyone looking to share the room? Remember, make a dinner reservation for yourself.

Good deal John.

About half of the rooms, and a third of the seats for the Sta. night dinner are already taken...

[Big Al]

You're on dude, gotta get some of the stuff in ME south of Rte 2 charted... grandma stays home though, she's a little out o' hand! ;):old1: Good ol' Granny . . . She tought me everything I know... She's my hero. :superman: :rolleyes:

[JCorwin]

Please add me to your list of victims, Greg. I'll be heading up on Thursday and rooming with John (AgSTreak) Looking foreward to the caveman TV!!


:D :hotpepper :headbang: :bannana

[GRN]

Please add me to your list of victims, Greg.

:D :hotpepper :headbang: :bannana

Right on Bro, don't forget to make Dinner res. for the Sat night gig.

Including another local not on the list, we're at 21 bikes... and we're 5 months out... and it's stil snowing (damit!)!

[Big Al]

we're at 21 bikes... and we're 5 months out... and it's stil snowing (damit!)!Greg!
There better not be any snow up there during this event or we're holding you personanlly responsible. :rolleyes: :D

[GRN]

any more snow and our house is on the market... 'nuff of this BS, I'm headed for Arizona, maybe New Mexico. :cus:

[H20SKIER]

Hey Greg, Where do we make Dinner reservations?? My Wife and I will both be there on Friday and Saturday night. Bob

[GRN]

Hey Greg, Where do we make Dinner reservations?? My Wife and I will both be there on Friday and Saturday night. Bob

Hey, glad ya'll are going to make it. We have the Rest. at the lodge where we are staying reserved for a really nice top shelf buffet, but they want folks to make reservations and deposits to get a committed head count.

Are both of you riding your own bikes, or coming 2 up on one bike?

[H20SKIER]

We will be on both Red ST1100's. I have not made a room reservation yet but I will get on it. Bob

[RoadSurfer]

Hey, Bob. Glad to hear you and your wife will be joining us in September. I couldn't help but get a little nostalgic when I read that you would be riding matching red ST11s. It reminded me of one of the first NESTOC gatherings I attended when my '91 ST11 was still new. That year (probbaly about 15 years ago) the base of operations was a motel on Rte 4 near Killington, VT. Maybe a few readers will remember it. But I'm reminded of it because that year there were also two red ST11s ridden by a husband and wife couple, from Indiana.

Unfortunately, it was not a great weekend for them, as the wife took an App Gap switchback a bit too wide and crashed. She was not badly hurt, but I believe the bike was not really rideable as a result. Still, I recall admiring the woman's spunk and the way she took the whole nasty experience "like a man," so to speak.

Hope that such nostagia doesn't jinx anything for any NNESTOC riders; guess it should be taken as just a little reminder that the App Gap can be challenging, given the intensity of its curves in contrast with most of the semi-squidlies in those parts.

See you in September.

[H20SKIER]

Hi Greg, just wanted to let you know that I just made my reservation for the 7th and 8th(can't come earlier) We will be there Friday late afternoon. I look forward to seeing everyone again. Oh also made dinner reservation for 2. Thnaks, Bob

[GRN]

I am working with the KML to explore altrenate scenarios for the Sat. nite dinner gathering... the current plan isn't a great fit for everyone, and I don't want anyone to be unreasonably excluded. Not exactly sure where it's going yet, but I'll let you know. I should have my final BRC schedule this week, then I can write in some pre-ride time on the calendar... it's hard work, but I know ya'll appreciate it :rolleyes:

[GRN]

Saturday, Sept 8 “Group Dinner” is in the works... suggestions welcome. I'm looking at options for something more fun than just sitting around on our arses... maybe a pig roast or clam bake kinda thing?

[Big Al]

WOW! - This sounds like it's gonna be a hoot!
Both ideas sound good to me.

[GRN]

I'm talking to the folks that catered our rehersal dinner for 50+ people in '00... quality and service was awesome, pricing was better than I expected. I'll keep posting as the conversation progresses, and then throw up a poll on menu selections and let everyone in on it. I'm liking the look of the pig/chicken combo... :beer3: and a keg of....? :rolleyes:

http://www.clambakeco.com/catered/pig_roasts.php

[SteveST1300]

Ya can't go wrong with a roast pig and chicken hey I hear Carl does a pretty mean BBQ! Come on Carl!:03biker:

[Bones]

Carl! Pig Roast! Carl! Pig Roast!

:eat1: :eat1: :eat1: :eat1: :eat1: :eat1:

[Carl_T]

:pig1: :tent6: Who's this Carl guy anyway???? :pig1:

[JCorwin]

Saturday, Sept 8 “Group Dinner” is in the works... suggestions welcome. I'm looking at options for something more fun than just sitting around on our arses... maybe a pig roast or clam bake kinda thing?

I thought the "group dinner" was the buffet at the hotel we had to sign up for? I's be confused........:drool1:

[Big Al]

Greg,
Jeff brings up a valid point... I'm a little confused too. :neutral: I thought we paid for a dinner that was to be hosted by KML...

Please enlighten us... Oh great one. :bow1:

[H20SKIER]

I did not sign up for the Bufffet for I thought it was a tadf costly for a buffett!! But I would love to be in on a BBQ or Pig roast or something. Keep us posted!! Thanks for all your hard work on this Greg!!!!

[Mick]

I promised myself I'd go to NeSTOC this year but that didn't work out. Now I'm thinking about NNeSTOC (again if work will cooperate). I've got a couple of questions.

1. Being that this will be during a holiday week (Labor Day), how bad will the traffic be in that area? Will the traffic be back to normal since it will actually be a couple of days after the holiday?

2. Same question as above for the Adirondacks area as I will be taking the scenic route through there to get to Lincoln, NH.

[H20SKIER]

Isn't the Holiday the weekend before? if so there should be very little traffic. If it is in fact the Holiday weekend, we will have lots of traffic!!

[Mick]

Isn't the Holiday the weekend before? if so there should be very little traffic. If it is in fact the Holiday weekend, we will have lots of traffic!!


I was talking about during the week rather than the weekend. Labor Day is Monday, Sept. 3rd. NNeSTOC begins the following Thursday the 6th. Lots of folks (myself included), will be taking vacation that week to take advantage of the "free" Monday, giving them a full week of vacation.

Labor day itself will probably find me arriving in Cobleskil, NY. I'd like to explore that area Monday and Tuesday then head off through the Adirondacks on my way to Lincoln, NH. Again, not being from the Northeast I have no idea what the traffic may be like and thus the reason for my questions.

If the tourista traffic is going to be a problem I might just postpone this by a week. I'd hate to do this because I'd miss the gathering. I may miss it anyway because I've yet to make a reservation at the event motel. I'm going to try and decide this week whether or not I'm going to go.

I've ridden all over the American West and a little throughout the South but have never done so in the Northeast so it's something I'm looking forward to doing. Another reason I'm looking forward to it is that I have old service buddy that lives in Boston that I haven't seen in almost 35 years that I plan to visit. If work, weather and especially traffic will cooperate, it should be a very enjoyable trip.

[GRN]

Week after Labor Day is pretty quiet up here... prime time for riding after the kids go to school and before the leaf peepers show up. Labor Day Weekend in the Catskills will be busy, but not so much so as to turn you away.

[GRN]

Alright...... first post fixed, second post updated with some new atendees, please shout if your coming and I don't have you on that list... meeting with some folks next weekend to get the Sat nite dinner thing nailed down... have a few things working, the pig roast option being my favorite at the moment.

If you have paid for the previous Sat Nite dinner plan, that amount will be applied to your room if we end up using an outside vendor and not the lodge rest. to cater that meal, seems pointless to make the lodge refund that, agreed?

[blueSTormer]

Thanks Greg. With all these rides coming up, I guess it is just the next ride that will be getting all the attention. I'm still planning to come up early and spend the week before in NH. But now Mary and I will be making a trip to Chicago (driving) to move my daughter in to start grad school last week of August. It looks like there are a lot of miles in my future.
BTW, you are not planning to post a video of that pig roast, are you.:rolleyes:

[jbackthere]

If you saw our last pig roast (rehearsal dinner in '00) you really wouldn't want it on video!!!

Cheers - looking forward to seeing y'all in September!:)

[GRN]

If you saw our last pig roast (rehearsal dinner in '00) you really wouldn't want it on video!!!

Cheers - looking forward to seeing y'all in September!:)

You mean YOU don't want it on video... rest might find it rather entertaining... honey :rolleyes:

I'm kinda curious just what Doc has in mind for this poor pig... does Mary know about this Doc?

[GRN]

I met with Nicole and Leo on Sunday at the Kanc. Motor Lodge... real nice folks, and an even better facility for this event than I knew. Indoor pool is real nice, there is an arcade, the pub and the restaurant are awesome... the restaurant has won the regional "best of" 7 of the last 10 years. The Common Man Restaurant is next door for some variety (a personal favorite), and we're in walking distance to a ton of shopping, food, movies... whatever folks want to do.

Saturday Night Dinner......... We have abandoned the high end buffet idea, and after looking into the pig roast idea and all of the logistics involved in that, we're likely to be better off just blocking out a big chunk of the dining room and ordering from the menu... I've got my own vote for keeping it simple as long as that's good with everyone else. If you paid for the buffet and have a room, it is being applied to your balance. If you paid for the buffet and aren't staying at the lodge, you will get refunded.

I read a letter they had gotten from a GW chapter who just had an event there, and they were very happy with the whole experience. They do a lot of bike groups so they have it down pretty well... two washing stations, plenty of towels, and free (nice) kick stand plates. We're going to have a great time!

Who else is headed in Wed. night?

[Big Al]

Keep it simple I say. Just the fact there's a restaurant/pub at the lodge is all we need. If we want to throw a party, We could just get a bunch of pizza's and beer, like we did last year. There's 2 Pizza/sub shops within waking distance from the hotel.

I'll be be arriving on Thursday afternoon.

PS.. I have a friend who'd like to go on this trip. He just registered on this site "01cbr929rr". Is there anyone looking to share a room? I've already promised to share mine with Brian (Northeast Rider).

[JCorwin]

I met with Nicole and Leo on Sunday at the Kanc. Motor Lodge... real nice folks, and an even better facility for this event than I knew. Indoor pool is real nice, there is an arcade, the pub and the restaurant are awesome... the restaurant has won the regional "best of" 7 of the last 10 years. The Common Man Restaurant is next door for some variety (a personal favorite), and we're in walking distance to a ton of shopping, food, movies... whatever folks want to do.

Saturday Night Dinner......... We have abandoned the high end buffet idea, and after looking into the pig roast idea and all of the logistics involved in that, we're likely to be better off just blocking out a big chunk of the dining room and ordering from the menu... I've got my own vote for keeping it simple as long as that's good with everyone else. If you paid for the buffet and have a room, it is being applied to your balance. If you paid for the buffet and aren't staying at the lodge, you will get refunded.

I read a letter they had gotten from a GW chapter who just had an event there, and they were very happy with the whole experience. They do a lot of bike groups so they have it down pretty well... two washing stations, plenty of towels, and free (nice) kick stand plates. We're going to have a great time!

Who else is headed in Wed. night?

thanks for all the legwork, Greg :bow1:

I'll be heading down (or UP) on Thursday, rooming with John C. (AGStreak).

Can't wait.

[GRN]

Steve, are you in Wed. Night? Maybe let your bride shop for a day, take in a film... and you go do the long ride with us? :D

[GRN]

We have made some changes in the Saturday night Dinner plan, and I want everyone to be clear because some folks weren't all that wild with the original plan and have yet to make reservations because of it. Not to blame anyone, my fault entirely, bad plan.

The $40/ head super dooper pooper buffet plan IS NO MORE....

We are going to have several large tables reserved, ordering from the regular menu, 1 check per table with gratuity added to split. I believe this keeps it as simple as possible for everyone.

The KML would like to have all of the reservations, dinner and rooms, by Aug 8 so they can plan staffing, etc., accordingly. We all realize some folks may not be able to commit until last minute... no problem, but if you know your coming, please pick up the phone and get it done. They will release any open rooms/seats to the general public after Aug. 8. It's not a super busy time, so I don't think it will close up fast, but what do I know.

Tel. 603-745-3365
Toll Free 1-800-346-4205 (outside NH)
email@kancmotorlodge.com

Next year I see this event staying at the KML if everyone has as good of a time as I believe we will... it's a perfect venue. We may come up with weekend "packages" with options for 2 or 3 nights, and meals and stuff all built into one price to make life easy.... I took short cuts up front that are making for more work now for everyone... I won't do that again, I promise!

[SteveST1300]

Greg does our prior reservation still work for dinner and the room or should we reconfirm for dinner? I will have to check on that Wednesday thing.:03biker:

[H20SKIER]

This sounds like a great plan Greg!! Thanks for your hard work, I look forward to seeing everyone again. Is there going to be a sign up sheet for rides or is there no plans for this? I would like to hook up with some other couples to go for a ride on Saturday. thanks, Bob

[newbornst1300]

Greg does our prior reservation still work for dinner and the room or should we reconfirm for dinner? I will have to check on that Wednesday thing.:03biker:

Just got off the phone with the Lodge and if you have already paid a meal deposit, they are going to apply it to the room instead. No need to reconfirm reservations or dinner. We will be arriving Thursday afternoon.

[Mellow]

Just as an FYI - NewEnough.com will be providing a few gift certs for give-a-ways and I'll send a few site STuff as well.

[GRN]

Dinner:

If you already had a reservation for the original plan, it has carried to the new plan. If you already paid for the buffet and have a room, it is being applied to your room balance. If you paid for the buffet and aren't staying at the lodge, you will get refunded.

All route info and group discussions are here:
http://www.grouprider.com/groups.php?action=displaygroup&groupid=164
There are no "set" groups, I'm encouraging folks to use the "Routes..." thread over there to get some conversation going and somes groups formed. Bob, with your experience you will be a great group leader, pick a route, post a plan and invite folks to join you!

The goal is to keep the groups small, with similar interests and pace. Folks who will be up for a few days will have a chance to ride with lots of different folks, different rides... I'm planning on doing two full day rides, and two half day rides just so I can mix it up and ride with a bunch of different folks over the course of the long weekend.

[GRN]

Just as an FYI - NewEnough.com will be providing a few gift certs for give-a-ways and I'll send a few site STuff as well.

Oh sure... tell everyone about the $20 gift certs so I have to give them both away ;)

[Mellow]

Oh sure... tell everyone about the $20 gift certs so I have to give them both away ;)

LOL.. two?

[GRN]

LOL.. two?

Your killin' me dude........ OK, FINE, all 10 of them... tag, your it :a13:


There is a list up in the second post here http://www.grouprider.com/groups.php?action=viewthread&groupid=164&threadid=936&page=1&fpage=1#post6220 of the folks who have room and dinner reservations, please make me aware of any changes.

[Mellow]

Your killin' me dude........ OK, FINE, all 10 of them... tag, your it :a13:



LOL.. hey, things do get lost in the mail... :ban1:

[GRN]

The KML would like to have all of the reservations, dinner and rooms, by Aug 8 so they can plan staffing, etc., accordingly. We all realize some folks may not be able to commit until last minute... no problem, but if you know your coming, please pick up the phone and get it done. They will release any open rooms/seats to the general public after Aug. 8. It's not a super busy time, so I don't think it will close up fast, but what do I know.

Tel. 603-745-3365
Toll Free 1-800-346-4205 (outside NH)
email@kancmotorlodge.com

One thing I forgot... reservations made after Aug. 8 will be at normal rack rates, not at the group discounted rate.

[GRN]

At this time, Mick coming about 2K miles (assuming most direct route) has the long distance award easily in hand. Then of course, I have no idea where Motomac is heading in from, and I recall a note from a Cali member earlier this year flirting with the idea...

Where's Charlie? He's always good for a run from Dallas, vie Seattle... what a nut :D

[01cbr929rr]

Hello everyone, I was wondering if anyone might be available to share a room with me on Fri.9/7 and Sat.9/8 at the Kangamangas (sp.) Hotel. I'll be a good mate and as far as I know, I don't sleep walk or snore!! I'm comming up from the Boston area and am looking to hook up with some folks for a long Sat. ride in the mountains. I plan on heading back Sunday morning around check out time. I'm 51 yrs. young, married and ride a 01cbr929.
Thanks
JD

[GRN]

A buddy of Big Al's, Jim, is looking to split a room with someone... anyone have a reservation right now with an extra bed?

[GRN]

Got a note today from a new member, STKenny, who will be Joining us from from Baytown (just east of Houston), TX. Welcome Kenny! You and Mick oughta compare some notes and see if you can share some miles together on the way? :capwin:

There have been a bunch of new reservations at the lodge... if you're coming please let me know too.

I need some folks to start talking about the routes that interest them so we can get some small groups self congealing.

[Mick]

Got a note today from a new member, STKenny, who will be Joining us from from Baytown (just east of Houston), TX. Welcome Kenny! You and Mick oughta compare some notes and see if you can share some miles together on the way? :capwin:


As a matter of fact, Ken(STKenny) and I have had this NNeSTOC trip planned for a while now. He and I have put a lot of miles in together over the last several years. Here's a cool picture of Ken in Utah:

http://www.hal-pc.org/~mmcham/ut_hwy21_mirror.jpg

He's the spec in my rear view mirror. If anyone is bored this weekend and wants to read the entire account of that trip, here's the article:

http://www.hal-pc.org/~mmcham/wes02.html

By the way, we would sure appreciate it if you guys could arrange for some dry, sunny weather to greet us in New England. We've had nothing but showers and thunderstorms down here for the last 3 months! I think even the ducks and mosquitos are tired of it.

[GRN]

By the way, we would sure appreciate it if you guys could arrange for some dry, sunny weather to greet us in New England. We've had nothing but showers and thunderstorms down here for the last 3 months! I think even the ducks and mosquitos are tired of it.

We have a saying here about the weather... actually two if you listen to Bones (I don't)... welcome to New England, if you don't like the weather, just wait a minute. We've had a real wet one here too, but ya'll are gettin' hammered.

So Mick, since your perspective on the roads up this way is fresher than most, pick a few routes and post some ideas about what kind of riding you want to do up here (on grouprider)... we can give you some ideas from there, and you might find some like souls to share some of those miles with :-)

That's a helluva nice ride ya'll did to WeSTOC... I didn't read the whole thing, but I did look throught all 14 days. Nice pics... I love the snake river... Sawtooths too. Nice ride.

[Mick]

We've had a real wet one here too,

Think Sun! :bow1:


pick a few routes and post some ideas about what kind of riding you want to do

I'll post some on group rider but what I see as interesting is the "Killer Views" Loop and the "Short West Loop".

Not sure when we'd squeeze in the time but I'd like to shoot over to Maine and get a picture of a nice scenic lighthouse. Any suggestions for one to see?


That's a helluva nice ride ya'll did to WeSTOC... <SNIP> I love the snake river... Sawtooths too. Nice ride.

Yeah, that was a good ride and the area you mention was fantastic. It was the first time I'd ever been to that part of the country. I may go back next year and hit Lolo Pass (which we didn't do that trip).

[GRN]

Mick,

Short west has some of my favorite turns... and killer views is a must do "gringo" ride ;)... weekdays best for the latter, and a clear day at that.
PM'd you some thoughts.


FOR EVERYONE...

all of the routes that have an eastern leg on Maine 113 from Fryburg up through Evans Notch will probably have some changes. Recent flash floods have damaged and even fully segmented some roads in that area... I'll be doing a long weekend of scouting up that way in a few weeks to check it out, will make needed changes and post updates as I get them done.

[Carl_T]

:wooHey man, put us on the confirmed list, I just scored a room for Dawn and I and we're signed up for the Sat. night Dinner :woo :mcrider:

We'll probably show up Thursday night after work late trailering her Ninja and the Bandit (absolutely no nude Gold Wing pulls will be performed).

Dawn just got her first solo ride of the season on her own bike in today. With her arthritis, she's just not in shape for regular length runs though (and depending upon her condition at the time may ride her own Ninja, or if not feeling up to it will ride two up with me).

She's gotta stop for a few minutes every hour also, so Her and I gotta do shorter easy going days. That being the case (and most folks being up for longer rides), we'll probably do 9AM leave, shorter runs of some type on our own, and meet up with everyone at day's end. That way we can gear our ride to how much endurance she has that particular day.

I'll go look at the routes you've posted up Greg , and see if you have any 150-180 mi. routes put up.

[GRN]

There are some shorter routes, south, west, Mt. Wash... and you can take note of some stuff and make up your own too. You are a great leader man, I hope you find some folks interested in similar rides, I know Billy is thinking of a shorter day Saturday, ya'll should compare notes.

Glad to have you and your better on board brother, wouldn't be the same without you :clap2:

[GRN]

I just fixed the 'killer views loop', taking out the last loop north. Maine 113 is severed in Evans Notch, and it also appears that Bear Notch road has been severed just north of 112 by the Swift River... will have to look into that further as it's a far better way around North Conway.

[Carl_T]

Yeah I was bumming all year figuring I'd miss this one, glad it worked out different.:)

I'm guessing we'll want to keep both our runs down around 175 mi. or some bit less, with small breaks somewhere about on the hour. If Dawn is riding her bike pace will be real easy going, If she's hopping on the Bandit two up instead, pace can be anything others want from gentle cruise to white hot sizzle through the corners (I almost never run straights faster than 10mph over max. though unless passing [GPS 10 over that is], more normally 5 over). Left to myself pace would be medium with her on the back.

Me, I'm hoping she feels well enough to ride herself. Nothing wrong with an easy going ride in the White Mountains as far as I'm concerned.

I'll post up which rides we settle on real soon, and anyone who is OK with her pace and number of stops is completely welcome to come along up to a max of 8 bikes including us. If no one really wants to chill back that much, that's OK too, it's all good and we'll see everyone when the rides done.

Anyone gets interested just PM me on this site.

Is the road paved all the way up to the end on Mt. Washington now?

[Carl_T]

Bear Notch is a no no.... BUMMER!!! I kind of liked the little cow path and was looking forward to using it if we went up that way. I hope you get time to check it out.

[GRN]

Anyone gets interested just PM me on this site.

Is the road paved all the way up to the end on Mt. Washington now?

I don't believe it's paved to the top. I'll probably offer to lead a group, moderate pace, on Sat on the killer views loop. Early departure to the sugar shack for pancakes. Moderate like Dawn, and Todd and Nelson with Kids moderate... I'll have gotten it out of my system for a bit the day before :cool:

[GRN]

A quick rundown of routes that will change a bit due to road damage:
- both Mt. Wash. routes
- twisted loop
- two rivers loop
- Rangeley loop
- tri-state loop
- and the east loop has yet to really be finally scored...

[Carl_T]

Man you guys must have gotten it rain wise up there. I just looked at the Castle in the Clouds website, and I'm thinking that's something I'd sooner come up and take a day to do in the fall one of these years when they have the plein air painting, art stuff going on, and fall colors. I'd rather have time to hike around, see the waterfalls etc. a day trip type of thing, rather than a quick peek at it during the STOC on the run. Think I'll pass on it.

I'm gonna poke 'round a bit more trying to figure what route I want to do when, probably make a hybrid for one of the days. Let me know what's closed north, Can you go up past Washington along the river, double back and go East on 2? you'll probably know more after the pre-ride huh?

[GRN]

N on 16 to 2 then west and back down no problem... not the greatest though either... more inclined to come back down to 302 W and ride the notch on that side of the presidentials.

Castle in the clouds for fall color, weekday is a must ... yeah, at least a whole day, just getting a parking space... you'll spend a lot of your day just waiting, you have to take the trolly to the main site, lines will be... I wouldn't include any significant travel that day. The falls is a 5 min dead end hike from the road on the way to the big parking area. It's not spectacular... just kinda cool.

[Big Al]

I just fixed the 'killer views loop', taking out the last loop north. Maine 113 is severed in Evans Notch, and it also appears that Bear Notch road has been severed just north of 112 by the Swift River... will have to look into that further as it's a far better way around North Conway.Accordintg to this website (http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/forests/white_mountain/recreation/roads_status.php) the "Bear Notch Road" is open. However, I've recently been there on two wheels this past July and it's a bumpy ride. It's riddled with frost heaves. You may still want to consider an alternative but, it is passable. Just need to slow it down a bit on that road.
No sure if this website is up to date. What you say could be true since anything could have happened between July and now.

For other good road info, you can try this website (http://www.nh.gov/dot/traveler.htm).

[GRN]

Accordintg to this website (http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/forests/white_mountain/recreation/roads_status.php) the "Bear Notch Road" is open. However, I've recently been there on two wheels this past July and it's a bumpy ride. It's riddled with frost heaves. You may still want to consider an alternative but, it is passable. Just need to slow it down a bit on that road.
No sure if this website is up to date. What you say could be true since anything could have happened between July and now.

For other good road info, you can try this website (http://www.nh.gov/dot/traveler.htm).

Nice Linkage Big dude... now why won't google maps let me get between 302 and 112? Rand won't either, but mapquest will... I don't get it. Google used to. Bear Notch ain't Louden, but if your heading north it beats that last boring stretch of the Kanc and dealing with Conway/ N. Conway big time!

[Big Al]

Greg,
On the Twisted Loop theres a stretch of road between Rt100 and Rt12 in VT called "Roxbury Mt Rd". Its showing as a dirt path on Mapquest, MSN maps, Google earth and my own NT Navigator.

Have you been on that road before? Are you sure its paved?

[Carl_T]

Actually I was thinking up past Washington along the river (I liked the winding road along it a lot in 2005 and figured to stop on the River to look around this time) up to Errol, down 26 over the notch to Bethel and over 2. However I see it's still a couple hundred miles. Everything over that way is a couple hundred instead of 170. Still messing with possibilities though. The short West loop still is looking good for one of the days.

Since it's kind of looking like we won't get to ride together during NNESTOC I'm still looking at finding a way to sneak in the pre-ride with you. Thing is I'm taking a day for the National Gallery in Washington this week and getting Fri. would be tough at work. STill working on it.

[GRN]

Since it's kind of looking like we won't get to ride together during NNESTOC I'm still looking at finding a way to sneak in the pre-ride with you. Thing is I'm taking a day for the National Gallery in Washington this week and getting Fri. would be tough at work. STill working on it.



:clap2: SWEET! :clap2:

[Big Al]

Actually I was thinking up past Washington along the river (I liked the winding road along it a lot in 2005 and figured to stop on the River to look around this time) up to Errol, down 26 over the notch to Bethel and over 2. However I see it's still a couple hundred miles. Everything over that way is a couple hundred instead of 170. Still messing with possibilities though. The short West loop still is looking good for one of the days.

Carl,
If you looking for a shorter route, you could aslo follow 16N and head 26N from Errol then follow 102S to 135S and pick up 18S in Littleton which will bring you right into Franconia Notch and back to the lodge.

[Big Al]

:clap2: SWEET! :clap2:
Ditto :D

[Carl_T]

Al, how are you telling in Google etc. if a road is dirt or paved????????????

Even that way shortened is over a couple hundred Al. Looks like Errol is too long a bite no matter how I cut it, even backtracking.

I'm gonna look East a bit too, anyone been on rt. 2 to ME? decent? It's along a river, sort of anyway, not to sure about it though.

I see some small stuff that looks real interesting (though if paved may be frost heaved to hell like Bear Notch). Better get back to work.

[GRN]

Greg,
On the Twisted Loop theres a stretch of road between Rt100 and Rt12 in VT called "Roxbury Mt Rd". Its showing as a dirt path on Mapquest, MSN maps, Google earth and my own NT Navigator.

Have you been on that road before? Are you sure its paved?

I'm sure it's not... you haven't ridden VT 'til you've done some dirt Big dude... :D

[Big Al]

Al, how are you telling in Google etc. if a road is dirt or paved????????????

Even that way shortened is over a couple hundred Al. Looks like Errol is too long a bite no matter how I cut it, even backtracking.

I'm gonna look East a bit too, anyone been on rt. 2 to ME? decent? It's along a river, sort of anyway, not to sure about it though.

I see some small stuff that looks real interesting (though if paved may be frost heaved to hell like Bear Notch). Better get back to work.Carl,
I admit I exaggerated a little. However, I just confirmed it with my Garmin's NT Navigator and Mapsource software that its a dirt road. MSN's Local-Live satelite maps make it, at best, questionable. I'd have to wait until I get home to re-check Google maps. It's blocked where I work.
That streach could be paved now though. Satelite photos are usually no newer than 3 yrs. My Garmin software could also be wrong. I was hoping Greg has been there and was certain about it.

I've been on rt2 to ME. Anywhere on 2 East of Dixfield isn't worth $hit. - There's a nice little segment of road opposite of the river from rt2 between Dixfield and Bethel. Very scenic.

[GRN]

Big dude, if you want to check out those cabins for the preride, I'm sure nobody would mind. Looks like 6 guys who probably aren't sharing beds:mw1: will take several cabins unless the two new bigger ones are available.

[SteveST1300]

Goota agree with AL on rt 2 I took it to ME when Jimmy and I were up there and there are some nice stretches of road but the truck traffic is bad. I would give it a pass.:03biker:

[Big Al]

Big dude, if you want to check out those cabins for the preride, I'm sure nobody would mind. Looks like 6 guys who probably aren't sharing beds:mw1: will take several cabins unless the two new bigger ones are available.I'll see what I can do and PM everyone with the details soon.

[GRN]

Goota agree with AL on rt 2 I took it to ME when Jimmy and I were up there and there are some nice stretches of road but the truck traffic is bad. I would give it a pass.:03biker:

Yup... too much traffic period.

[Big Al]

Just a warning to all interested in exploring ME roads.

Generally if it isn't a State road, its most likely going to be a dirt road. It's nothing like NH or VT.

[GRN]

And... if it looks like it goes somewhere really cool, it's probably dirt, and gated. :cus:

[billxp]

I'm sure it's not... you haven't ridden VT 'til you've done some dirt Big dude... :DHmmm Roxbury Mountain Rd, sounds very familiar.

I just checked my route up from last year and I remember hard pack in that area.
Greg sent me and my loved one on this road last year in the pouring rain :eek: But we were up for the adventure :)
We also plan on coming up the same way this year.

Well actually it wasn't raining when he sent me those short cuts. :rolleyes:

[Bones]

Lead me into temptation along the narrow twisted path of two-wheeled righteousness, exhaulted routeplanners....

[Big Al]

Lead me into temptation along the narrow twisted path of two-wheeled righteousness, exhaulted routeplanners.... Oh exhaulted routeplanners... Deliver us from the congested, stagnation of the cager world we live.
For thine is the leader into the Kancamagus and the blistfull notches of the North East.
Forgiveness, we not ask for the high-speed tresspasses of mountain roads but, mercy from the gods for glorious sunshine and dry asphalt we do.

[georgeorge]

Oh exhaulted routeplanners... Deliver us from the congested, stagnation of the cager world we live.
For thine is the leader into the Kancamagus and the blistfull notches of the North East.
Forgiveness, we not ask for the high-speed tresspasses of mountain roads but, mercy from the gods for glorious sunshine and dry asphalt we do.

Can I get an 'AMEN'!

[GRN]

Oh exhaulted routeplanners... Deliver us from the congested, stagnation of the cager world we live.
For thine is the leader into the Kancamagus and the blistfull notches of the North East.
Forgiveness, we not ask for the high-speed tresspasses of mountain roads but, mercy from the gods for glorious sunshine and dry asphalt we do.


Big dude... you're hired :clap2:

[Carl_T]

So far it looks like Dawn and I will hook up with you Greg if you stick with doing the killer views ride one of the days. Heavy rain could alter that plan I would think no? If it rains that day she's staying in and I'd ride anything you're in the mood for at that point.

Whatever day you're not doing the Killer Views ride, we will be doing the short Western loop with the twisties. We're adding a few miles to bump it to 159mi. for good or ill.

We'll likely do it kickstands up 9AM, easy going hourly rest stops. Probably be done around 4PM or so. If the weather is particularly cold we'll bump it to 10AM-5PM. It'll be a laid back day for us.

Anybody wants to take it easy and join in is welcome, up to about 6 other bikes max. PM me if interested. Dawn will be riding her own bike on this one.

[Bones]

If it rains.....

...you put on rain gear and keep riding.

There's no bad weather, just bad clothes for the weather.

Of course, Cardinal, now you've awakened the rain gods. Pay pennance in the form of one pig roast :eat1: and all is forgiven.

[GRN]

So far it looks like Dawn and I will hook up with you Greg if you stick with doing the killer views ride one of the days. Heavy rain could alter that plan I would think no? If it rains that day she's staying in and I'd ride anything you're in the mood for at that point.

Anybody wants to take it easy and join in is welcome, up to about 6 other bikes max. PM me if interested. Dawn will be riding her own bike on this one.

Sounds good bro, "killer views" is plan A for Friday for us. I'm thinking Billy and the boys from the Lone Star Republic may want to Join... maybe Todd and Nelson too, should be pretty laid back. I would like to stay to 8 bikes max. If weather and visibility at altitude are limiting, I'll probably do an improvised figure 8 that will be the short west and short south combined.

It's probably easier to keep all the group ride conversations in one place, and most of that is happening on the grouprider site, in the route specific threads. You should post your plan for 'short west' there.

[Carl_T]

I posted it up on Group Rider Greg. Anyone interested can PM me there as well.

Doing Killer views with you Fri. and Saturday a laid back easy going paced short-West twisty run. A change is we will run it at regular length instead of adding to it, with possibility (time permitting) of running the Kanc to Whitehorse gear after the run is over.

Bones, just thinking looking around Castle in the Clouds and Climbing Mt. Washington in the rain/fog would be less that fun to do. Then it would be game on for another route. After the Monsoons we've ridden in I figure few riders would stay inside due to weather.

That being the case, I figure I successfully dodged the need to put on a pig roast, :pig1: yet one more time :D

[billxp]

Doing Killer views with you Fri. and Saturday a laid back easy going paced short-West twisty run. A change is we will run it at regular length instead of adding to it, with possibility (time permitting) of running the Kanc to Whitehorse gear after the run is over.
Carl your reading my mind.

[GRN]

He had a little help ;)

[Bones]

I figure I successfully dodged the need to put on a pig roast, :pig1: yet one more time :D

Dodge schmodge, my friend. Save me a slab of back ribs! :eat1:

[Carl_T]

Yep good suggestion on Whitehorse at the end Greg.

Billy if you guys are up for our laid back pace Sat. you're welcome to come along the whole day. On the other hand if you want to run quicker or separately during the day, you could always hook up with Dawn and I when we get back to go to Whitehorse. Let me know when you settle on what you want to do for Sat. if you want to come along with Dawn & I or not. OOPS, scratch that, I see you signed up for Greg's quicker paced group doing the short Western loop. So, see you at Whitehorse. :)

I may change the leave time to 8:30am to be sure to have enough time at Whitehorse (thinking that one over).

Bones, you're gonna egg me into that one of these days... aren't you

[SteveST1300]

OK I just got off the phone with the lodge I am confirmed for Wednesday night as well. Looks like Thursday is a GO!!!:03biker:

[GRN]

:clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

That makes 4... this group is now closed, unless of course NERider wants in...

The Thursday Fantastic 4 for the 'Twisted Loop':
GRN
Big AL
ST1300NH
SteveST1300

I sure hope some of these other folks are making some plans... I'm not seeing much activity here or on grouprider.

[Carl_T]

Some of you guys will have to be there for a week to ride all the routes you signed on for at group rider :D

[GRN]

Some of you guys will have to be there for a week to ride all the routes you signed on for at group rider :D

OK

:D

[SteveST1300]

I haven't really decided what to do yet. I know we want to spend some quality time with my brother Carl. So we will definitely ride with you on the killer views loop if you are doing it. Other than that and Thursday I am still open to suggestions. I will be solo for the Thursday ride I convinced Maureen she should rest up after the long ride up Wednesday. It is almost 400 miles maybe a bit more if I take a scenic route which I am likely to do.:03biker:

[Carl_T]

Yep, We'll be doing the Killer views loop with Dawn on the Bandit.

[GRN]

Steve, if your up for a lead, and the west loop looks good, it could use a kick in the seat. Or, Al's leading a ride on the two rivers loop (same route we did in '05), and I'm going to lead a group on the Tri-state loop. I may also come up with something awesome for the east loop, but that's yet to get discovered. West loop can make for a nice easy mid day run, lunch over the river in Fairlee.

[Big Al]

Some of you guys will have to be there for a week to ride all the routes you signed on for at group rider :DBy the time I've finished with NNESTOC, I'll proabably HAVE seen almost all those roads this year. The Kanc about 4 times alone.

[H20SKIER]

Any couples that want to ride are welcome to join My wife Kim and I, we will probably pick a easier ride so we can stop and take some pictures on the way. I will look at the rides on Grouprider and pick a route, Bob

[GRN]

Any couples that want to ride are welcome to join My wife Kim and I, we will probably pick a easier ride so we can stop and take some pictures on the way. I will look at the rides on Grouprider and pick a route, Bob

Thanks Bob!

Which day are you looking at, Saturday?

[Big Al]

Count me in on the "Killer Views Loop" with you guys for Friday. I haven't seen the Mt Washington Auto road and Castle in the Clouds. I'd like to do it with friends.

[GRN]

I just had an idea for the Friday ride... waiting for a call back from Whitehorse... if everyone is cool with something as simple as pizza and some beverages for lunch, we can do that at Whitehorse in between the Castle and Mt. Washington... Yes?

[Big Al]

Mabye we could pre-order some sandwiches/subs and bring them to the top of Mt Washington.

[Carl_T]

Some kind of lunch at Whitehorse works for me.

[Bones]

I'm feeling loopy, too -- Killer Views for Bones.

[GRN]

Mabye we could pre-order some sandwiches/subs and bring them to the top of Mt Washington.

Top of Mt. Wash can be a bit hostile for a picnic man; strong winds and temps likely 20 degrees colder than in the valley... and it'll be a pretty late lunch.

Whitehorse is game to us having lunch there, we preorder/pay, they will pick up and have ready for us when we roll in. Can be anything, pizza, deli, whatever.

[SteveST1300]

That's cool with me. I like that place great people. I am sure I will buy something!:03biker:

[Big Al]

Greg - Didn't think about the weather up there. :nuts1: Whithorse Press sounds good to me too.

I visited there this July and joined the ranks of the Lemmon Heads with a new Nolan N-Com102.
I also bought a new pair of Cortex gloves. I'm sure there's always something I still need. :rolleyes:

[Del]

I will be arriving Thursday for dinner and am up for any ride on Friday. My only caveat is that by 7PM at the latest I will need to be 120 miles north of Lincoln for mandatory riders meeting.

[Big Al]

Wecome aboard Del :D

[GRN]

I will be arriving Thursday for dinner and am up for any ride on Friday. My only caveat is that by 7PM at the latest I will need to be 120 miles north of Lincoln for mandatory riders meeting.

I thought you might be the one from DE with a reservation for just Thursday... Welcome!

You should be in good shape joining us for the 'killer views loop' and peeling off from the group on our way off Mt. Washington. I can give you a better idea if you tell me exactly where... 120 N of Lincoln involves a border crossing, yes?

This is New England and you can't always get there from here ;)

[SteveST1300]

What are you going to be doing Mike?:03biker:

[Del]

I am entering my first ever rally:

http://www.rendezvousld.org/en/home.htm

and by 7PM I must be here:

www.hotelhorizoninc.com

and if that goes well in Oct. then I hope to do this:

http://www.rallythevoid.org/index.html?0.051161200863287015

GRN can I get there from Mt. Wa.?

[SteveST1300]

That looks like fun Mike good luck!:03biker:

[Big Al]

I haven't really decided what to do yet. I know we want to spend some quality time with my brother Carl. So we will definitely ride with you on the killer views loop if you are doing it. Other than that and Thursday I am still open to suggestions. I will be solo for the Thursday ride I convinced Maureen she should rest up after the long ride up Wednesday. It is almost 400 miles maybe a bit more if I take a scenic route which I am likely to do.:03biker:Steve,
Would you be interested in doing the Two Rivers Loop with me Saturday?
I could use a guy like you as my sweeper.

I've posted some details on the GroupRider site. Check it out. Saturday: Two Rivers Loop (http://www.grouprider.com/groups.php?action=viewthread&groupid=164&threadid=1587&page=1&fpage=1)

IMHO this route is eaqual to the tri-state in it's fun-factor but, will be just a little bit shorter to allow for more time for lunch and rest stops.

[GRN]

Steve,
Would you be interested in doing the Two Rivers Loop with me Saturday?
I could use a guy like you as my sweeper.

I've posted some details on the GroupRider site. Check it out. Saturday: Two Rivers Loop (http://www.grouprider.com/groups.php?action=viewthread&groupid=164&threadid=1587&page=1&fpage=1)

IMHO this route is eaqual to the tri-state in it's fun-factor but, will be just a little bit shorter to allow for more time for lunch and rest stops.

Al,
you might have limited interest in that route from folks who did this event in '05... that was the route we did, one BIG, and very fast, happy group :-)

[Big Al]

Yes, It looks that way.
I'm just throwing it out there to see if there are any takers. Too bad too. 102 and 135 are a couple of my favorite roads to ride.
It may be that, people are more interested in the rides that everyone else is riding on. If thats the case, we'll have to split into groups anyway just to keep the #'s down.

I'll keep the plan open. If there's no takers. I'll do something else.

[GRN]

Al,

That's a great route, and there are plenty of folks coming who weren't in that maiden ride of 11 or 12 bikes in '05... it's a great slightly shorter alternative to the other long routes that focus on Maine and Vermont, you'll get interest.

Likely candidates:

Todd & his daughter
Nelson & his daughter
Chris & Sam
Briane Carne

More I'm not thinking of at the moment... send out invites through grouprider and make folks aware... they'll come.

[blueSTormer]

Hi Big Al. I may be interested in doing the Two Rivers Route with you. I haven't really done that part of the state yet. We can talk about it next weekend.

[SteveST1300]

Al I appreciate you asking but I have done that route several times now and it is a great ride but I am ready for something new. We will keep an open mind.:03biker:

[GRN]

and by 7PM I must be here:

www.hotelhorizoninc.com (http://www.hotelhorizoninc.com)

Del, that's all pretty wide open riding, no reason you can't average 50+ mph in the saddle... big variable is your time out of the saddle at customs, could be 3 minutes, could be 30 minutes, could be ....

To be safe, I would give myself 3 hrs in the saddle, 30 minutes for the border, and add 30 minutes if the weather isn't perfect... but then again, I'm almost always way early for everything ;).

We'll see how things fall, come do the castle and lunch with us, and we'll play it by ear. You may need to expedite lunch and leave ahead of us to summit Mt. Washington.

[Del]

Most certainly I will be there for lunch, however you are right about the border. My wife waited 2 hours on a recent Friday afternoon going north on 87 to Montreal. I am hoping to cross at one of those little forlorn spots, maybe even wake the border guard up from his afternoon siesta.

[Big Al]

Hi Big Al. I may be interested in doing the Two Rivers Route with you. I haven't really done that part of the state yet. We can talk about it next weekend.Sounds good Rob. I'm really looking forward to that weekend with you. :)

Al I appreciate you asking but I have done that route several times now and it is a great ride but I am ready for something new. We will keep an open mind.:03biker:No problem Steve. I wasn't aware this route was old news for some. If there's not enough interest, there's always the West Loop.

[H20SKIER]

Hi Everyone, My wife and I are looking at some rides for Saturday. We were looking at the Short South Loop and possibly stopping at the Flume (2 mile hike)or Sabaday falls (1/2 mile hike) both very pretty. Anyone interested in this ride for Saturday please let us know so we can get it together. Thanks, Bob & Kim

[georgeorge]

You guys have got me on the Sh!t-list at work now!! :mad: Thanks!
Don't count me out just yet, but it doesn't look good.:(

[Big Al]

You guys have got me on the Sh!t-list at work now!! Thanks!

Don't count me out just yet, but it doesn't look good.Brian,
I hear John is now looking for a roomate since Jeff had to cancel.

Hope you can make it man....:)

[steve3b3]

I finally got off my a$$ and booked the room for Brenda and I. So it's Really official that we'll be there.

Steve:04biker:

[Big Al]

I finally got off my a$$ and booked the room for Brenda and I. So it's Really official that we'll be there.

Steve:04biker:Yeaaaay! :hat1:
That's great news Steve! Glad you and Brenda can make it. :D

[blueSTormer]

It wouldn't have been the same without you. I'm looking forward to seeing Brenda and you again.I finally got off my a$$ and booked the room for Brenda and I. So it's Really official that we'll be there.

Steve:04biker:

[Northeast Rider]

I think I can.....
I think I can.....
I think I can.....

[Carl_T]

Cool Steve, Hey Brian, you're so close now you could show up in your sleep. Well, maybe not that close, but close enough to make it.

Are you in your new digs now?

[GRN]

Hey Brian,

You oghta come over Wed nite and join us for the long ride Thursday... :D

[Big Al]

Yeah Brian!!!
Its your kind of riding. :wink:

C'mon. . Just do it. . . We know you're just as twiSTed as the rest of us. . . :hat1: :rolleyes: :D

[GRN]

Sooooo GG... what's shakin'?

Do I need to print those "Bush for third term" stickers?

The trailer is ready to go... 3 new rolls of duct tape in the shop.

[GRN]

Weather forcast for our preride weekend is looking better and better as we get closer :clap2:

Todd, what's your call?

[Bones]

Weather forcast for our preride weekend is looking better and better as we get closer :clap2:



Doh! There you go, jinxing the preride. Better start the chilipepper banana rain dance to appease the clear weather gods...
:hotpepper :bannana

[blueSTormer]

Doh! There you go, jinxing the preride. Better start the chilipepper banana rain dance to appease the clear weather gods...
:hotpepper :bannana

Bones, we may get sprinkles on the way up on Friday, but it looks good from there.

[GRN]

Oil/filter, and some drive train love for both Steeds tonight... want to bring the little one, but may bring the boat for the practice... MRT Roast Duck on my mind.. MMMMMMM :eat1:

[Kempo-STer]

Weather forcast for our preride weekend is looking better and better as we get closer :clap2:

Todd, what's your call?

Out..:( New shed being built on Saturday morning..Still got tons to do..Haven't slept there yet. Tomorrow should be the night.

[GRN]

We'll miss ya bro... see you in a month though :D

[Big Al]

Out..:( New shed being built on Saturday morning..Still got tons to do..Haven't slept there yet. Tomorrow should be the night.Sorry you can't make the pre-ride Todd.
Congradulations on your new home and I hope everything goes well for you and your family. :)

See you in another month. :D

[Ottawa-ST13-Pilot]

GRN-Greg
(& fellow ST'ers...)


I'm now registered at the Kancamagus Motor Lodge (single room) for the "Great NNE-STOC III '07" in Lincoln, NH.

Greg - Please add me to the "Official Registration List".


I'm actually arriving on Wednesday, Sept. 5th and might even go on Tuesday-4th if the weather and schedule permirts. "There's no legitimate reason I can think of why anyone would let these fabulous roads in VE, NH and ME go "ST-Untested" at the very first opportunityy..."


I think this will now make four 2005 ST-13 05's from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada... (Shows we know where the Great MC Roads and ST Riders are located...)


The GPS Routes on GroupRider.com look delicious. The GR website is a great idea and very useful for those of us blessed with GPS (Zumo 550). My GR sub-Group is: "Ottawa H ST13 SportTouring" - for Eastern Ontario ST Riders-To Join Go To: http://www.grouprider.com/jg.php?g=213 (http://www.grouprider.com/jg.php?g=213)


Looking forward to meeting new ST13 fanatics in a few weeks time!

:biker:
Ron,

Ranald G. (Ron) MacDonald BBA CISA
"Certifiable HST13 SportTouring Pilot & Part-time Squadron Leader"
(STOC#: 6507; HSTA# 11898; COG#: 2349-AADNE-EO/WQ; EOCRG-WebM; OVTC-Exec/WebM; OER-WebM)
POB 329 Main Station, Greely, Ontario, Canada K4P1N6
Contact: macdonrg@rogers.com; (613-821-1206) (http://ca.profiles.yahoo.com/macdonrg)
Cell #: 613-884-3313 (GPS: 45.259300, -75.564300 (N45°15.558, W075°33.858)
Friendship Through Motorcycling...

[GRN]

Hey Ron,

Just got back from a little pre-ride to scout some new territory in Maine, and we found it all - the good, the bad, and the ugly. Look forward to meeting you man, I'll be in Wed. eve as well, maybe you can join us for dinner?

Pre-ride pics will be up later. :clap2:

[SteveST1300]

Greg what time is dinner? And please more on the pre-ride:03biker:

[Mick]

And please more on the pre-ride:03biker:

Ditto on the pre-ride. Any more roads fubared in addition to those previously mentioned?

[Carl_T]

Hey Man, Did you get me a photo of a paved ME Road that had a bunch of bends in it, or were they all dirt? :D

[blueSTormer]

I made it home by 7:00 PM. 451 miles today. Awesome, my body feels like it could do.....maybe.....50 more.:D Probably 1150 miles for the weekend.
Captain and pizza in, time for a shower. I'll post the pics later.
Thanks to all my pre-ride buddies for making it such a great weekend.

[AgSTreak]

What's the scoop on ME roads? My impression, from many summer vacations, is that there are many nice roads, a few good roads but no great roads. Of course then there's always coast and the the lobster:drool1: :eat2: . That's a good enough reason to visit that beautiful state.:)

[blueSTormer]

What's the scoop on ME roads?

I'm going to let GRN answer this one. It's all just a blur to me!!!

[Bones]

Home safe and sound here. 1046 miles over 3 days.

Yes, it was largely a blur. Wheeeeee!

[Bones]

Photographic evidence of a pre-ride...

[Bones]

More photographic evidence...

[GRN]

Great ride and good to see you all... Not many roads I'm in a hurry to go back to, but 16, 17, 26, 35 were all fun. Here are some pics, I gotta sleep...

BTW...

to give some perspective to the scale of the views of the lake, the large island at the near end is about 2 miles long...

[Big Al]

Made it home about 5:45 last. Total miles about 900.

Saturday's ride was the best. Sunday was a little hot and there was noticeably more RV traffic. - My favorite roads were 16, 17, 26, 35, 146 and we can't forget "Katie's Crotch Rd" which unfortunately, we don't have a road sign picture of because the town locals tell us they can't seem to keep that street sign from getting stolen. :( (Hmm.. I can't imagine why :rolleyes:) - The cabins (http://www.sevenfallscabins.com), where we stayed were clean and cozy. We had the whole camp to ourselves. Saturday night, the evening temperature was just cool enough to really enjoy warming up next to the :cf1: campfire, with a local brew called Carrabassett Ale. :beer3: (Mmm good stuff) Which, buy the way, we had purchased at a store next to the Carrabassett river and drank at a camp on the Carrabassett river..... I don't believe I heard a single auto drive by on the road next to the camp that night and you could see the milky way in the sky.

Most of all I had fun riding with my fellow brothers. Each of us on a mission of exploration, with our bright yellow lids, searching out for the best sweepers, twisties and scenery, sampling the local cuisine and on the lookout for wildlife. It just doesn't get any better than that. :)

PS.. I recorded a track log on my Garmin of the entire weekend's trip, if anyone is interested in seeing a record of the roads we traveled.

Also, I'll post some pictures later this evening. :)

[Carl_T]

Great photos guys! That Bridge photo HAS to go in with the article if you do it.

MAN! I wish I'd been able to come along. I could use a new lid dropped by a huge chicken :D Good weather, good friends, ride... good.

Be seeing you all in Sept.

[Big Al]

OK.. Here's the .GPX file of our track logs for this weekend's Pre-ride. I've included the waypoints of some of the places we took pictures. You can upload it into Google Earth and fly to each satelite image.

Enjoy :D

[Big Al]

:hat1:More pics!

[blueSTormer]

My 2 cents.

[H20SKIER]

I can't wait to ride with you all. Is there a list of who is going on what ride for the Saturday ride? My wife and I would like to ride along with some others if any one is interested. She is really driving great his year!!!! Hope we can hook up with a few more people. Last year My brother and Brother in Law came up and we all rode together with Dave as our leader and had a great day. Still looking for ather couples or solos for a Saturday ride. Bob

[GRN]

Bob,
most of the ride info is over on grouprider.com, here. (http://www.grouprider.com/jg.php?g=164)
There are discussions there that have folks grouping up for different rides on different days. The time and date info in the "ride" specs are just there because the site makes you put something, but those don't suggest anything real.

[Carl_T]

Sat rides so far.
Greg has a long brisk one 330mi. , Al has a nice med one 259mi., and I've got a laid back paced short one 130mi. (with an optional 40 mi. run after up the Kank and back, also I'll be stopping for short breaks hourly) all going Sat.

When you enter the NNESTOC group's first page on Group Rider, look under the wee ones yellow helmet photo. Click on "Discussion Board" and you will see a post for each of the Saturday rides being formed so far, with a list of participants.

[H20SKIER]

thanks, found it!!!

[GRN]

Some of you may remember me making reference to a BBQ joint that's in a school bus, crazy old black dude and a pet pig... well, I finally made it down there last night and all the things I had heard are true... it's a wild scene and the ribs are unfriggin believable. I got the combo, don't bother 'cause the chicken is only a bit better than average, but the ribs.... THE RIBS!!!:clap2:

This is a must do for those coming from the south. Bring me some take out if you're hitting it on the way up :D Make sure to hang out a bit a talk to Curtis, he's way cool dude.

http://www.curtisbbqvt.com/

[GRN]

I have a nice lunch plan for the folks who are doing the 'Killer Views Loop' mongo big azz group ride led by Bob an me Friday Sept 7... here's the plan:

1. check out the attached menu
2. Call in your order, NO LATER THAN Tuesday Sept 4, pay by CC and make sure to specify that you are with the NNESTOC group on Sept 7... don't forget beverages and such.
3. Uh, there is no 3... see how easy that was! :D

Whitehorse will be picking up our collective order and have it waiting for us when we get there. If we have lousy weather and decide to take alt. routes that day, we can leave this plan in place as a way to get everyone together for a little interaction and check out some gear while they're open (not open on the weekend). If on Thursday it looks like Friday will be a wash due to really poor weather conditions, I'll scrub it, everyone will get refunded, and we're all on our own Friday.

Good enough?

[Turbonewb]

Hello,

I would like to join.

Thank you,

David

[GRN]

Hey David,

Welcome on and introduce yourself a bit, man... are you a friend of Big Al? Looks like your riding a brand new Ninja 250, sweet starter bike, I put more miles on my wife's than she did, that thing was a hoot!

It's important that you choose your rides carefully, quite a few of these may exceed the limits of you and your bike due to the range and pace that many of the more experienced riders will keep. Have you taken the BRC? Have you been on previous group rides before? Tell me more about your experience either in this thread or through a private message so that we can best include you in this really great weekend in a way that works well for all.

Rubber down :-)

[billxp]

I have a nice lunch plan for the folks who are doing the 'Killer Views Loop' mongo big azz group ride led by Bob an me Friday Sept 7... here's the plan:

1. check out the attached menu
I think I'm lost. How about some gps coordinates for that attached menu.

[billxp]

I think I'm lost. How about some gps coordinates for that attached menu.

Never mind found it over here LINK (http://www.grouprider.com/groups.php?action=viewthread&groupid=164&threadid=1584&fpage=1&page=2)

[GRN]

Never mind found it over here LINK (http://www.grouprider.com/groups.php?action=viewthread&groupid=164&threadid=1584&fpage=1&page=2)

That's odd, there was an attachment there yesterday :shrug1:

Here's a more direct link (http://www.chefsmarketnorthconway.com/menus.php#6) to the Sandwich Menu, and I'll attach the PDF again.

[GRN]

New route up... ummmm, ribs good! (http://www.grouprider.com/rides.php?action=displayride&rideid=1855) :clap2:

[GRN]

Mt. Washington... was 32 degrees ambient, 67 mph winds when I went up today... in the truck. Next to no visibility for the last mile. Both the kid and the dog got back in the truck faster than they got out. I was crapping myself in the truck with the wind... sure hope we get a better shot at it than that.

Evans Notch is open, so we have a few ways to get east/north... I'll put up a few small things called "northeast work arounds" on group rider, ya'll can incorperate them into your rides as you wish... what's in the "rides" is nothing more than a suggestion.

[SteveST1300]

What's your weather like up there Greg its cool and damp down here. Its rained for 4 days now and the high temps are only in the very low 60's.

[newbornst1300]

Steve, It's been cool up here as well the last couple of days and there is a bit of rain in the forecast for the next five. Sam and I are really getting primed for NNESTOC now. Still can't believe OnSTOC is all over until next year.
See you guys in a couple of weeks.

[GRN]

Chris, they go way too fast... that's why I extended ours a day, I couldn't deal with it starting to wind down just as it got wound up!

Weather here... f'n cold man, been 40-42 every morning for the ride in with highs making it to 70 if we're lucky, almost ready to light a small fire at night just to take the edge off. Forecast is for a warming trend and some rain, just hope it gets all the rain out of its system prior to OUR weekend... shut up Bones ;).

I'm already thinking about alternatives to the Friday plan... was up on Mt. Washington last weekend, would not have been an option on bikes... this time of year we have about a 1 in 4 shot of getting the right day to ride up... Castle in the clouds will still be OK unless clouds are real low and it's raining with any fortitude. One option will be to do a loop north past Mt. Washington, Whitehorse for lunch, Then to CITC... if it's gonna pour, we can collectively decide what we want to do about lunch at Whitehorse and plan a ride around it on the fly. But, it's not gonna rain... :clap2:

[georgeorge]

But, it's not gonna rain... :clap2:

Good... cause I'm gonna have lots of work to do that week-end.:scared2:

[GRN]

Good... cause I'm gonna have lots of work to do that week-end.:scared2:

Dude, get real.... tell them to just deal with it. Your telling me they have NEVER taken a little "Me" time during the season? Come on... you already missed the first two, bagging on us again is just plain old rude! :butt1:

[SteveST1300]

Brian at least you have to try for Friday, Saturday, Sunday come on man we want to ride with you!!!:03biker:

[Carl_T]

Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian,

Tell them you no can do the work
Being in the family business has to have SOME kind of perk
Ask your Bro to take up the slack
It'll only be a few days and you'll be back
Say you need to get your hands out of the suds
and go riding for a bit with your Buds
Tell them it's simple to deduce
a HAPPIER Brian will really produce.:rolleyes:

[Bones]

Brian, Brian, Brian, Brian,

Tell them you no can do the work
Being in the family business has to have SOME kind of perk
Ask your Bro to take up the slack
It'll only be a few days and you'll be back
Say you need to get your hands out of the suds
and go riding for a bit with your Buds
Tell them it's simple to deduce
a HAPPIER Brian will really produce.:rolleyes:

Our own Carl, a poet! :bannana
(And with a good message, too.)

[GRN]

If poetry doesn't work, duct tape will get it done.

[Kempo-STer]

He's gonna have a headache, but at least when he wakes up, he will find himself in NH!:rolleyes: :cool:

[Bones]

If poetry doesn't work, duct tape will get it done.


Brian was asked to construct
An escape using tape made for duct
Camp work must consign
To the family bloodline
Cause without him we'd really be...inconvenienced.

[Big Al]

Good... cause I'm gonna have lots of work to do that week-end.:scared2:Brian,
Is there anyway you could maybe bribe your family into letting you go? :rolleyes:
Y'know... Shine shoes for a month; back rubs for a week; clean all the toilets for the rest of the year.... :rolleyes:

Trust us... It'll be worth it. :wink:

[GRN]

Hey, don't we have a smiley that looks like
A BIG FAT
CHICKEN?!

Text symbol :~GG~:

:a13:

[georgeorge]

Hey, don't we have a smiley that looks like
A BIG FAT
CHICKEN?!

Text symbol :~GG~:

:a13:


Low blow!!! Not fair at all!!! Youz bums don't work obviously.... someone's gotta do it!

[Carl_T]

John you're in, check my group rider thread, warm up that vfr :D

Bummer Bria' your gonna look funny working in all that duct tape.

[AgSTreak]

I'm gonna let the weather dictate my bike choice for the event. The ST was made for long distance riding and if you throw in questionable precip, there is nothing better except maybe that PU truck you'll be towing with.
Brian, I'm on your side. You have duties and obligations which tie us all down. We just have a little more flexibility this time of year than you do. Try to work out a deal. I hear money and physical favors can work wonders.

[georgeorge]

I hear money and physical favors can work wonders.

Yeah but how much money can I take without someone noticing?.....ooo, did I say that out loud?

[Big Al]

Yeah but how much money can I take without someone noticing?.....ooo, did I say that out loud?
Brian,
I'm sure there's lots of us here, who are willing to offer you their .02 cents on why you should go. :rolleyes: :wink:

OK. . Everybody. . Lets each give Brian our .02 cents on why he should go.

My .02 cents = It'll be the best time of your life. (the ducktape option, will probably be your worst) :rolleyes: :D

[AgSTreak]

Ouch Brian, that was painful. I don't know if it'll be the best time of your life, but you'll have a great time. That and you can unwind with great company and a few adult beverages before heading back.

[GRN]

No, no... don't talk him into it, I haven't duct taped anyone up since college, and it was pretty friggin' amusing as I remember. I'm looking forward to this!!!:clap2:

[roadancer]

Hi Gang!!
Sorry to deviate from your somewhat deviate Georgia Silver [tape] exchange, but here are some things regarding NNE you'd like to know,,make note,,,

Frannies ,,,,Thornton Rt 3 so. from Woodstock.....House Pizza and burgers

Windy Ridge Farms,,,Rt 116 so. Haverhill off 112 w from Woodstock....Kicked back on the porch farmers b'fst,,,,yellow crisp apples [you'll come back for more,promise], and Apple bbq sauce,,,trust me, buy one and suffer when it runs out.

Imperial Oriental,,,at the lights in No. Woodstock, super menu, exceptional
quality

Craftsbury General Store,,,off VT rt14, super sammies, dangle your legs off the farmers porch and watch VT. go by

JT's,,, Rt2e Gorham NH , all homemade product, family run

Fresh Start,,,Rt302 e on left 5-8 miles past Bear Notch rd. as you approach 16, about 1 hr from Lincoln. Good b'fsts,,quick.

Walters @ The Squam rt3 bridge Holderness,,, a good stop after a loop to the Weirds [Weirs] Caution on the local "blues"

Red Fox B'fst buffet [sundays], rt 16n Jackson, on way to Pinkham Notch,
live jazz, all you can eat 8 bucks. A good last meal as you scare the heck out of yourself on the Wildcat Zip Line....

And last but not least The Kank Motor Lodge [home base] ,,,rarely equalled, and never surpassed.

Have a great time, I'll catch up with you folks fri eve.
Don't hesitate to ask for info on roads, rides, eats, and places of intrest.

Roadancer,
Dave Roussel
No. Woodstock

[GRN]

Yo... Friday 'killer views loop' folks, a not so subtle reminder to order lunch...


I waited two weeks so I could check up on things when I placed my order, and it sounded like I was the first to do so. No order, no eat :eek:...

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showpost.php?p=284642&postcount=184

:D

[Big Al]

Thanks for the reminder Greg. . . :duck: . . . I needed that. :) I'll get right on it.

Thanks
Alan

[Big Al]

:) Done - Thanks again Greg

[SteveST1300]

Maureen and I just placed our order thanks for the memory jog I must have breezed right past that post.

[Bones]

Subtlety is one of your greatest strengths, Greg.

Order in.

[GRN]

I love you too Bones :D

[Carl_T]

Got 'er done Greg. Food good, ride good, now add weather good and I'll bring my smile.

[SteveST1300]

Well its a week away and Wednesday and Thursday look great. Thats all I will say.:03biker:

[Bones]

Well it's (duct tape) a week away and (duct tape) Wednesday and Thursday (duct tape) look great. That's all (duct tape) I will say.:03biker:

Hmmmm...I suspect there's something more to you message, STeve. :rolleyes:

[SteveST1300]

No more Bones I just couldn't write the Rword!

[Carl_T]

Oh crap, now you made me go and look. :eek: I don't like what I see for Fri-Sat when I will be there. Thankfully these things usually change as the dates close in, sometimes all the way up to a day or two out. I will put on my hat of hope now. :hat1: I'll bet John shows up with the ST instead of the VFR. :rolleyes:

[AgSTreak]

No, Carl I'm bringing the VFR! Let me check the weather.:eek:
Like you say, it may change. Hopefully for the better. Let's see we had great weather for NJSTOCK and ONSTOCK. Who wasn't there:confused: :rolleyes: Who would be cursing the weather:confused:
BTW love that ST. Can't beat that V4 smoothness:)

[AgSTreak]

Hey, anyone showing up early on Thur looking to hook up with a laid back ride to enjoy the scenery? This will be my first time up there with my VFR and I need to relax a little.

[GRN]

REMINDER

If you haven't made reservations for dinner Saturday, and are joining us at
the KML for dinner that night, please call and be counted... now. Thanks :D

:call: Tel. 603-745-3365 Toll Free 1-800-346-4205 (outside NH)

[GRN]

Grouprider routes have been fixed so the turn by turn info is now included. It was a glitch with the sites interface to google... then I had to update all rides that were done while that glitch was present, now that it is no longer... with the exception of 'killer views' as I will be reworking it and an alt with an extended northern loop in case the Mt. Wash. auto road is a no go.

[Big Al]

:rolleyes: Hey Bones,
With all the working and re-working, done on the GR site with these routes, it kind of looks like Greg is becoming more like one of us now. A true GPS'er, techno, data $lut at heart. :rolleyes: :wink: . . . What do you think?

Won't be long now before he comes out of the closet and shows up with a Zumo. :D

[GRN]

:rolleyes: Hey Bones,
With all the working and re-working, done on the GR site with these routes, it kind of looks like Greg is becoming more like one of us now. A true GPS'er, techno, data at heart. :rolleyes: :wink: . . . What do you think?

Won't be long now before he comes out of the closet and shows up with a Zumo. :D

I'm a printer... I like paper... don't hold your breath big guy!

Besides... I have plenty of ZOOM OH! in my life now ;)

[Carl_T]

Tellin' ya the man has one hidden in his tank bag. He wants us to think it's a camera, but I know the truth... :D

[GRN]

The current weather forecast for those 4 days in Lincoln is giving me a boner :wave1: ... too bad it's never right a week out (god I hope I'm wrong!).

[Carl_T]

WHOA! Now THATS what I'm talking about!!!!!:sun1: :mcrider: :capwin: :tent6: :bannana :hotpepper :bannana :hotpepper :bannana :hotpepper

[newbornst1300]

I wish you guys would stop talking weather cause now Sam is starting to talk trailer:eek:
Greg...we have our lunch ordered and reservations for Sat dinner made so we are set.

[Carl_T]

Dawn can't do the miles on her bike, so don't let her see We are trailering in or you'll be in trouble :rolleyes: Where should I hide it when we get there?:)

[newbornst1300]

Sam kept telling me you guys were doing that thing and I kept saying no way! so now I am in trouble cause she was right ........and now the farkle fund is the jewelry fund:eek:

[GRN]

I wish you guys would stop talking weather cause now Sam is starting to talk trailer:eek:
Greg...we have our lunch ordered and reservations for Sat dinner made so we are set.

Get her back on the topic of boners and she'll forget all about the trailer :rolleyes:

[gsman3]

Going to take a ride out to you guys on Sat. coming from Vermont. The Killington classic is in town here in rutland that week end. they do a parade from the ski resort down to the city of rutland, shut down the down town and have all bikes park and have a street fair with live music. Google killington classic if you wish too. All makes and models are well represented from all over new england.

[gsman3]

Nice ride from the Kac.

[georgeorge]

OK, sorry Greg, but it's official now. There is no way in hell I can make this event. I wish I could.... I really do. I need a vacation BAD. :( I'll get mine though. After the camping season is over. I've just got too many unfinished jobs going on right now. I just can't ditch this place right now and feel good about it. You guys have a blast next weekend though.

[GRN]

Going to take a ride out to you guys on Sat. coming from Vermont. The Killington classic is in town here in rutland that week end. they do a parade from the ski resort down to the city of rutland, shut down the down town and have all bikes park and have a street fair with live music. Google killington classic if you wish too. All makes and models are well represented from all over new england.

What time Sat? If your planning on riding with one of the groups, most will be rolling pretty early. Otherwise come for dinner and some fire pit action?

OK, sorry Greg, but it's official now. There is no way in hell I can make this event. I wish I could.... I really do. I need a vacation BAD. :( I'll get mine though. After the camping season is over. I've just got too many unfinished jobs going on right now. I j