Helmets Flip up helmets dangerous?

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I don't see how the hinge could have hit him it would have to go through all the padding first. With all that extra crap on his bike he was probable distracted.
 
Well, I once tried on one of those helmets, and I swatted the side of it at the hinge, and I felt the hinge through the padding.

I agree, the gadgets on that bike are off the hook.
 
805gregg said:
I don't see how the hinge could have hit him it would have to go through all the padding first. With all that extra crap on his bike he was probable distracted.
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I agree, having used Nolans for six years, I have every confidence in it if the latch is securely clamped down. In the photo of the helmet used as an example, there is little external damage, so this description makes no sense.

The hinge cannot jump out and get you from inside the helmet. The only real concern I have about them is that you have to be certain the front is firmly latched.

A number of years ago, when Fran Crane died after a crash, there was a raging debate about flip helmets on the IBMWR board, but her husband put up a posting basically stating that everyone was making unproven conjectures without knowing all the facts.
 
Gadgets aside, he left the road at a high rate of speed. The front forks are busted all to heck, and that takes a heck of an impact to happen. This person is very lucky to be alive and should send Nolan a thank you note telling them how much he appreciates their helmet for saving his life..
 
I agree that when a cycle crash looks more like an aircraft wreck, you gotta wonder how fast this guy was going.

And I hope no one thinks I'm trying to throw out hysteria, or conjecture.

I think it's important to discuss these kinds of things.
 
motomac said:
Gadgets aside, he left the road at a high rate of speed. The front forks are busted all to heck, and that takes a heck of an impact to happen. This person is very lucky to be alive and should send Nolan a thank you note telling them how much he appreciates their helmet for saving his life..
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I agree. He should first get on his knees and thank God he is alive and then write Nolan and thank them.
 
So he didn't hit anything, just ran off the road? He must have been flying.
 
It almost looked like a head on crash.

I wish the guy would have said what happened. But I suppose the guy couldn't remember what happened, on account of his head injuries.

I guess he was fooling around with gadgets, and went off the road.
 
It really looked to me like he was on cruise control and fell asleep and went off the road. I had a friend who totaled a Wing by doing that.
 
Very simply, there is not a flip up helmet that is Snell certified.

Here are some pictures I took of helmet testing at the Snell facility.


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Flipup of not, the helmet did it's job :bow1: Who knows if he had his shield up when he took his spill... he certainly doesn't :(

On an impact like that... he's just lucky to be alive. To blame the helmet for his eye injury at this point is... pointless. :rolleyes: There is no reason to believe the same thing wouldn't have happened with a non-flipup :rolleyes:
 
So, he hit hard enough to cause that sort of damage and the helmet was bad?

No skid marks that I can see. I'm with Mac, I'd guess he was asleep, and when he came off he led with his head. I'd say his helmet worked. Eye and concussion could be a result of fit rather than function. If his head moved inside the helmet (too big) that kind of injury could be pretty easily explained.

Makes me wonder if my HJC will/can protect my melon as well as that Nolan did.
 
The Schuberth C2 has 2 little red pins that pop up in your field of view when the latch is released, and you can get a visual if the latch han't been closed properly you can see the pins up and showing red once the latch grabs they dissappear.
 
A very sobering set of pictures. I'm unsure about the hinge causing the problem.What amazes me is the condition of the bike. It's too bad we don't know what happened. I'm sure we could all learn a great deal from his accident. The fact that even today he has no memory of the event and the condition of the bike lead me to think that whatever happened was extremely violent.
 
The fact that he can not remember what happened is what makes me think he was asleep when he went off the road. If he was on cruise control, the cruise would keep the bike going at whatever speed it was set at until it hit something or he hit the brakes, pulled in the clutch, or shut it off. The condition of the bike says it hit very hard against something. Nothing in the article mentions if the bike is at the scene of the accident or in a salvage yard. Every accident I've ever had, I can recall very vividly what happened, except the time I fell asleep and went off the road in Charleston SC. I woke when the bike started bouncing on the magnolia roots in the middle of a traffic circle. I didn't fall down or wreck, but it definately got my attention and I stayed awake the rest of the way home.
 
I'm amazed anyone can fall asleep on a bike, but I've never had one with a cruise control.
 
I think people should give more thought to what is a "distraction" on the bike vs a farkle. GPS, XM radios, extra switches and dials, etc. all can be contributing factors to rider distraction. He probably crashed while "jacking" with that stuff instead of watching the road. Glad he survived and, yes, he should thank his helmet manufacturer.
 
Scary pictures, really glad the guy survived the crash.
Just thought I'd add that to say he must have been asleep because he cant remember is unfair, the brain is a great tool. After my bad off whilst I was waiting to turn across the road I was hit by another bike. I was pretty bust up and went in and out of consciousness for about ten minutes. Other than what people tell me I can remember nothing of the journey from home to the point of the impact and only remember coming round in the ambulance, with my good lady by my side. I assure you I was not asleep. I'm glad my brain can't remember the pain.
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When you're tired, it's easy to fall asleep on a bike, that's one of the hazards.

"The fact that he can not remember what happened is what makes me think he was asleep when he went off the road. If he was on cruise control,"

Trauma can easily cause memory loss, regardless of the cause.
 
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