Which windshield is on your ST1300 ?

[Sylvain]

This topic is almost as touchy as an oil thread :D .

I've been looking and reading all the threads and infos I can get to make up my mind on which shield to get. With the new custom seat and the MCL riser, the stock shield is at its highest setting and is well under my chin.
I'm 6'2" with about a 34" inseam. Buffeting, back pressure, noise, I got it all.

All the shields available have plus and minus.

Thanks

[Firehawk]

Clearview Medium, Light Gray Tint with Cut-outs

I'm 6' 2" with a 32" inseem. I love it.

Dave

[Byron]

Have you moved the brackets into the high position? I think the default is the low position but they can be moved to provide a higher position.

[RTETR]

Tinted CB 2+2+ in high position and added 1/4" spacers...

Sylvain, try adding spacers between the mounts and likley ill reduce backpresure and smooth buffeting...

[mishkee]

My new2me 2003 came with the cee-bailey the jury is still out for me... i was fine with the stock one especially HOT days with the glow suit... this screen seems huge!

Tom
:03biker:

[AZST]

Ermax here.

--Bryan
04ST1300A
:04biker:

[Raven]

+1 on the Ermax and love it!

[redst05]

Sorry guys I still have a stock unit.
I just cant seem to decide on which one will do the best for me.

No option for stock only.

[Bob Hughes]

Clearview GT Large Plus and love it. 6'3" with a 31" inseam.

[STindy05]

I voted other...I have the OEM. No attachment...I ride with it in the low positon all summer as I like the wind. Only time it goes up is in the rain or cold weather.

Landon

[John Anthony]

Clearview Medium, Light Gray Tint with Cut-outs

I'm 6' 2" with a 32" inseem. I love it.

Dave

5'10" with a 30" inseam. Same Clearview and I liked it a lot (except for the whistle) until I got the AeroFlow which is my screen of choice.

John

[Snoweyowl]

Last year rode with the stock shield. My Aeroflow is arriving next Tuesday.

[naturally wired]

Cee Bailey -2" high x stock wide which is really...-1" high and 2.5"s wider then stock...no vent..Ice Blue.......quiter and thicker then stock also!

[tx2stpr]

First went with the Rifle but recently switched to Ermax. I think I like the Rifle better and will put it back on after the summer.

[Lead_Deficiency]

does a larger screen cause the adjustable track to wear out sooner or does it need more servicing?

[Sylvain]

Sorry guys I still have a stock unit.
I just cant seem to decide on which one will do the best for me.

No option for stock only.

Same here, that's why I made this poll. I'm glad others find it usefull too.

Great!

[Sylvain]

does a larger screen cause the adjustable track to wear out sooner or does it need more servicing?

From what I read. It "seems" to cause more wear when you adjust the height while riding. More so on the larger screens. The shield up/down movement added with the wind vibration seems to be the cause. It could be a good habit to slow down (or stop) when doing the adjustement. Prevention ???

[motomac]

I voted other cause my shield is box stock.

[Sylvain]

Thanks for the inputs everyone.

I wonder for the people who have voted "other", could you post what brand you have on your bike?

So far the stock shield with lip, the Clearview and the Ceebailey are almost equal, and the "other" is pretty close. I wish I had known more brand names so I could of been more specific.

Thanks

[TLTONEY]

I have the Clear View GT large :D with GeorgeGeorge brackets :bow1: . If I had to replace it, I would get another GT large with the light tint and "Goldwing" vent.

My .02

Trey
:biker:

[Mark]

:D
Other is OEM!

Mark

[ChipSTer]

Other = OEM only... :)
:cool:

[fitenfyr]

I voted other...I have the OEM. No attachment...I ride with it in the low positon all summer as I like the wind. Only time it goes up is in the rain or cold weather.

Landon

Ditto Landon's comments for me. :D

I am 6'5" 32" inseam and I find the stock one just a tad lower than full up in the rain is just fine for me.
When the sun is out it goes down to somewhere in between depending on the temp. :D

I find a little buffetting at times, but it is not worth doing the windshield game to get rid of. :D

The BMW dealer we got my wifes bike from has demo Cee Bailey's that you can ride with.
We got her the taller one for her F650GS.
Wish somebody around here would do the same for the ST. :(

[ToroGuy]

Voted "Other"...currently using the Ermax tinted with stock as backup. I'm 6'1", have the Ermax on low adjustment. The Ermax is a little better than stock, but would not recommend it to a friend. You can do better with another choice.

[IndyST]

Other. OEM. Looking to go to a shorter shield for summer... stock is fine for everything else. My 03 is manual so I leave it in the lowest positions allways.

Mike

[adecood]

So here's another opinion on the wind screen for the ST1300.
I modified my screen with the following things. I took a high speed cutter and opened up the window at the bottom center of the screen by about 1.5 inches. Than I added a wedge between the screen and the attachment brackets that angled the screen down at the top. The wedge is about 1/2" thick at the bottom and about 1/8 " at the top. These 2 change reduced the back pressure ( wind blowing on my back) by about 75 %.
Not thinking that I could get it any better I committed to purchasing a Areoflow screen. We'll I finally had a chance to ride the bike with the new screen on it. I was not impressed enough to keep it. I didn't notice a big enough change with the new screen. In fact I think I actually got more buffeting from the top and also from the sides with the Areoflow compared to my modified production screen. I don't really get any buffeting from the side on the production screen. The buffeting around my helmet I don't think is louder it's just a lower tone (lower hertz range) compared to the modified stock screen. I am 6'0" tall and I also have risers (MCL) on the bar's and I ride with the seat in the full up position in the front and in the middle position at the back. Also I normally ride with the stock screen about 1/3 the way up. Unless it's raining or I've been riding all day and I want to reduce the noise than it goes up.
The screen I purchased from Areoflow was the medium screen. Also when I was test riding the bike I rode around with the new screen than I road around with the modified stock screen. Than I added the Laminar flow plate under the stock screen the one that came with the Areo flow screen. I did notice a little positive difference with the laminar flow plate under that stock screen. Now I need to decide if I want to pay $110.00 to keep the Laminar plate. Also when I ask my wife if she noticed any change when we rode with the new screen . She said that she didn't notice and difference. She is 4'9'' so I was thinking that she might not notice the change. But any ways she didn't notice anything.
So now what I am thinking I am going to do next is to open up the window at the bottom of the screen a little more. And possibly increase the wedge thickness too. That change originally seamed to make the biggest improvement. As for the laminar plate I am not sure if it's worth the $'s to keep it.
Does any one have a similar experience ?

Dave

[Kempo-STer]

I have the Clear View GT large :D with GeorgeGeorge brackets :bow1: . If I had to replace it, I would get another GT large with the light tint and "Goldwing" vent.

My .02

Trey
:biker:

...Georgeorge Brackets.....LOL..

Trey, I take it you met GG when he came out to Texas..which means of course you have to return the favor and come up to CT:D

Brian is a wizard with all things mechanical..:bow1: :03biker:

[georgeorge]

...Georgeorge Brackets.....LOL..

Trey, I take it you met GG when he came out to Texas..which means of course you have to return the favor and come up to CT:D

Brian is a wizard with all things mechanical..:bow1: :03biker:


Damn.... I knew I patented the wrong part!

[Kempo-STer]

Damn.... I knew I patented the wrong part!

Actually that DID enter my thoughts Brian...:o:

[TLTONEY]

I got the GeorgeGeorge template from Paul Swanson. A good idea is hard to keep a secret! :bow1: It did everything as promised, reduced wind noise and buffeting for a whopping $7.00!!!

Trey
:biker:

[Sylvain]

Picture is worth a thousand word, Please.

[Del]

Sorry guys I still have a stock unit.
I just cant seem to decide on which one will do the best for me.

No option for stock only.


I voted for other too.

[joeca43]

I've reverted..... In the beginning I went from Stock to AeroFlow which I loved the functionality and quietness but was less enthuised on the look. With that said I loved the look of the Ermax so I went and bought one about two months ago. The look is unbeatable and the lines are perfect for the ST and early on offered my opinion on it, BUT the noise level drives me NUTS :hyp1: . I wear earplugs and the noise is unbearable at times . It does get quieter if I put the screen up and look through it but I do not like looking through the screen.
With that said last night the voice of reason spoke to me and I listened. I took the Ermax off and put the Aeroflow back on. I took about a 45 mile ride this morning and was once again amazed at the quietness of the Aeroflow over Ermax and Stock shields.
The time for me has come to appreciate function over form so the Aeroflow will be my shield of choice.

[georgeorge]

Picture is worth a thousand word, Please.

Pictures are about halfway down this page: http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7767&page=2&highlight=stuey+struts

[4INer]

Noticed something else I really like about my Aeroflow. Every windshield on every bike I've ever had seems to send moths, butterfly's and the like just over the top of the sheild and then straight into my faceshield. Now that spring is here and the critters are back out, I've noticed that with the Aeroflow they continue on their upward journey until they are out of sight and over my head. That's a good thing when you're riding with one good eye....... :)

[joeca43]

One more consideration is making the decision on which shield to purchase and this is important to some . Ask previous purchaser's of a particular shield what their S.O. thought of the effect on them. Did they notice a change from the stock shield to shield XXX ?
My S.O. does not ride with me much but she did recognise the difference in less helmet buffeting and noise between us.
My .02$

[Sylvain]

Pictures are about halfway down this page: http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7767&page=2&highlight=stuey+struts

Thanks for the update. Are you still offering them?

[georgeorge]

Thanks for the update. Are you still offering them?

It was not something I was making for people, but rather just an idea so people could make their own. Really very simple to do.

[voyager]

Hi yes voted for CEE Baileys, had mine for almost 2years now. does all required taking off all arm and helmet buffing for both pillion and I.
Can cruise up to 100mph with helmet chin flips in up position.
My height 5ft-10in x 85kg partner 5ft-7in x 70kg
Used CEE Baileys 4inch taller x 6inch wider. if buying again with my height the extra 4inch taller not required, as fully down can only just see over it.
couple of Down sides too the screen
With its extra wide 6inch In its last 25% screen down into the parked position it slightly catches the black Honda wind delectors on the mirrors. Found not a problem. And can not see any way of it not rubbing past.
In the rain water tends to cling to the screen up to 50mph. Advise the CEE baileys screen cleaner cues a lot of it. Only bought cleaner 8months ago and did make a differece.
And last of all water droplets that form on the screen that come through the front middle vent are quite big now and sting your face.
I would go for the 4inch taller with your height.
Hope it helps voyager

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i129/voyagerr/STRearviewextra1.jpg

[alf04st]

ermax and love it

[LiveToRide]

Rifle same height as stock - wider at the top then stock so it offers more protection, even airflow, less buffeting, less back preasure and quieter then stock. I've tried the Vstream and Areoflow and for me the Rifle works the best.

[Sylvain]

Thanks to all for your inputs.

I contacted John from Clearview and ordered the tall gt with central vent. The waiting is now 7 to 8 weeks :-( before shipping.

[CDNolddude]

Sorry guys I still have a stock unit.
I just cant seem to decide on which one will do the best for me.

No option for stock only.

DITTO HERE... however I did just put the screen in the upper position and did about 125 miles or so in 45 degree weather and it was a little better in the higher positions.. I think I'll keep it like this for this year..

[ParkerBill]

Stock OEM here in low position on brackets. I'm 6'2", 34" inseam, Corbin seat.

[vnsfxr]

I voted other...I have the OEM. No attachment...I ride with it in the low positon all summer as I like the wind. Only time it goes up is in the rain or cold weather.

Landon

I've gone 1 step farther and flipped the brackets to lower it another 3" for the same reason. Have almost clean air with this simple mod.

If I'm gonna get caught out in a long stretch of rain I pull out my trusty 10mm wrench and slide it up to the higher mount which puts it back to almost stock and push the button.

Almost stock as I've put 3/8" spacers at the bottom which smoothed out the airflow a bit and also lets it clear the fairing.

[Sylvain]

Hello,

Just an update.

I just got the shield from Clearview, Large GT with central vent. I was a bit surprised when I got it out of the box, it sure is large. It gives good protection and less buffeting. But I got a light whistle. From the reading I've done, raising the shield position and/or adding some spacers to raise the shield should do the trick. I'm keeping my smaller oem shield for the sporty rides :-).

[Gearbear]

I received my Clearview large today. Tinted, no vents, a noticeable improvement over stock. With the height set at what's ideal for me at highway speeds there is a loud and very annoying wind-whistle noise. I have to raise or lower the height beyond my comfort range to make the noise go away.

I noticed there is more space between the bottom center of the shield and and the fairing, the angle of this area is also slightly different from stock. I suspect this bottom center area of the shield is scooping air and channeling it over the sharp plastic parts of the fairing more than the stock shield did. Maybe if the air velocity was fast enough there would be a real whistle like a flute.

I intend to experiment with the area the noise is coming from by covering these sharp edges and maybe also cover the little vents in the black plastic.
I saw someone post pictures of sticking auto weather stripping in this area. I'm hoping carefully-cut heavy duty black tape or something else more discrete than weather stripping will do the trick.

Another idea is applying something to the shield's leading edge in the middle like a strip of clear or black door edge trim to disturb this laminar air flow between the shield and the fairing will be just enough to stop this noise.

I don't want to mess with spacers and change the angle of the shield. There's already almost too much space between the bottom of the shield and the fairing, any more and it wouldn't look good.

[jzulaski]

Be sure to get the right sized windshield for you. I just read one guy here say he didn't like the Aeroflow as it buffeted too much.

Then he listed his height as 6 foot something with risers and he only got a Medium sized Aeroflow?

Well duh!

Paige, the owner and designer, at Aeroflow would be the first to tell you that anyone over 5' 10" should go for the Large shield and possible bigger.

It really makes a big difference to get the right sized shield, no matter what brand it is.

Sometimes it takes a little experimentation. If you don't want to go out and buy different ones, meet up with other owners and try theirs out. I've been doing that in my searching so far and it's saving my $.

I've had the stock and several Cee Baileys of different sizes (back then I was working with CB while they created their various different sizes so it didn't cost me anything - that's another method when bikes first come out).

Happy searching...

Z

[BikemanKZ]

RIFLE - TINTED
KZ

[barrycomo]

RIFLE - TINTED
KZ
BikemanKZ,

Did you notice any decrease in MPG with your Rifle windshield? I just purchased a used one and frankly really like the way it reduces the wind on my shoulders (6'4"x280lbs), but have now lost about 2-5 mpg based on height setting of the shield...

All the way down = -2... 1/3 up = -5... I hope this is just something that I am a bit oversensitive about as I have only ridden about 200 miles with it over the past week or so...

Keep the shiny side up!

Barrycomo

[st11ray]

Bike-Quip Flip top +2 tinted from www.st1300-accessories.co.uk. I really like it.

[BruceP]

I am with Landon on the stock windshield. I have mine set so the wind just clears my helmate and I can look over it.

I do have a Clearview on my ST1100 and like it.

[josephthreedogs]

I voted other...I have the OEM. No attachment...I ride with it in the low positon all summer as I like the wind. Only time it goes up is in the rain or cold weather.

Landon

Same for me.

[Britman]

Just took off the Clearview 6 + 6. Excellent winter protection.

Put the OEM back on for the warmer weather and better mpg. The Clearview was described by a Valkyrie riding friend "Damn that's a big hoss".

[Radar]

I chose other because just OEM wasn't an option.

[azlife4me]

OEM here too.

[Rich R]

I appear to be 1 of 9 and have a Calsi large. Since I have tried no other shields than the stock, all I can say is I am happy, and so is my wife riding in back. The Calsi gives much better coverage than stock, WAY less buffeting, and no backpressure.

Will my windshield slides wear out.....maybe, I will give em a shot of spray lube now and again.

All around I am VERY happy with my choice in shields.

And Guy, if you want to throw a leg over my bike for a test ride, let me know.

Rich

[Austin city limits]

I appear to be 1 of 9 and have a Calsi large. Since I have tried no other shields than the stock, all I can say is I am happy, and so is my wife riding in back. The Calsi gives much better coverage than stock, WAY less buffeting, and no backpressure.

Will my windshield slides wear out.....maybe, I will give em a shot of spray lube now and again.

All around I am VERY happy with my choice in shields.

And Guy, if you want to throw a leg over my bike for a test ride, let me know.

Rich

I 121% agree with Rich on the Calsci!!! I have tried 7 different shields and the Calsci is the Bestest of all of them!!! It amazes me that so few ST-1300 riders run a Calsci when so many are happy with the shield who own it... :confused:

[LndCrsr]

What? No plain stock OEM choice?
Oh no! Another aftermarket farkle...wife is gonna think I've developed an additional mental disorder!

[Pete in PA]

What? No plain stock OEM choice?
Oh no! Another aftermarket farkle...wife is gonna think I've developed an additional mental disorder!

HELLO...Same here, OEM STOCK, low manual position, all the way down.

I voted other.

Might even lop another inch off her. In high position it's WAY too high and I'm 6' 2''.

Need more input on the changing of the brackets to lower it more.

[acedantinne]

OEM, should have been just 1 to choose?

[acedantinne]

I voted other...I have the OEM. No attachment...I ride with it in the low positon all summer as I like the wind. Only time it goes up is in the rain or cold weather.

Landon

+1 me too

[st1300r]

I voted other as thiere is no choice for OEM.
It's always all the way down unless its raining.
Then it's up high enough so I can keep the visor cracked and not get pelted.
Hate looking thru the windshield in wet or dry conditions and the back pressure is really annoying when its up.

[Gti20vturbo]

I just put a CalSi on mine last night but this was only an attempt to keep wind off my wife. If I rode solo all the time the stock unmodified windshield in my opinion is perfect so I would never change it.

[vnsfxr]

HELLO...Same here, OEM STOCK, low manual position, all the way down.

I voted other.

Might even lop another inch off her. In high position it's WAY too high and I'm 6' 2''.

Need more input on the changing of the brackets to lower it more.

Swap the brackets and it will lower the shield another 3". I'm 6' 1" and with brackets swapped 1/4" spacers on the bottom mounts I am almost in clean air with the shield down.

If you don't find the info with a search PM me and I'll give you details. Neat thing about this modification is you can slide it back up to the high mounts for winter/rain riding or return to stock anytime.

[DavidT]

I purchased a 2003 w/o the electric windshield and the previous owner had the Clearview on the bike when I picked it up. He also had the OEM w/laminar lip. In the cold weather the Clearview is great at keeping the wind and rain off you. Lately I have put the OEM w/lip on and put it in the low position, I can't use the high position because I have to look thru the lip and windshield, not good. The OEM and lip let a lot of air in and that is good for day trips but will probably put the Clearview on when I take a long trip.

[SALTYDOG56]

Greetings from NH:bow1:

Ermax screen for me.:shout1:

Never tried the stock and have a Cee Bailey's also I never tried, Will get to it some day!

At the time I was rebuilding the bike the Ermax, was avalabel so I went for it.

Great looking shield, larger than stock, there is some back presure when up full But its like, night and day, full down to full up.

Great in the rain. But does have the rain make its way through the bottom of the shield at Highway speeds.:mad:

As you can see in the pictures offers better hand protection also!:o:

Here are a few pictures a member sent me on the diffrence some time ago.

Sir William:biker:

[TomH]

:03biker:I have the 2003 ST with no electric windshield. It came with a Cee Bailley but I found it picked up minor turbulences when following trucks on the 4 lane. I drilled and lowered it but it didn't help a whole lot. I got a stock shield off Ebay and drilled and lowered it. It solved the turbulence problem and made it much cooler in the summer.

[jnsgardner]

Yes, yes, I know the Aeroflow is expensive. I bought one here on this site for $230... and I couldn't be happier. I had a Calsi before, but the Aeroflow really does work. I have a full face Shoei, but I don't ride with the shield (except in rain). I wear glasses, but I can adjust the area of no wind (reduced wind) with the switch so that I am looking a good six inches over the shield with no wind blast in the face. The plastic is first rate so I can use Rain X on the shield.
The under shield has given a few problems. It's held on with Dual Lock (available at Radio Shack), but the sticky part hasn't always stuck so well, and the under shield has come loose after hard bumps. Yes, I cleaned the surface with acetone and roughed it up, but it still gives way... occasionally.
The only other drawback is I used to have my radar detector cradled in the right nook of the fairing, but now, I have to use a TC Tom's thingamabob to keep the detecter away from the inner shield.
It keeps wind out of your eyes, but not June bugs or rain (hail).
You get what you pay for. It's a quality item that's not for everybody.

John

[bygdawg]

Clearview Medium Smoke Gray with vent

Not my normal riding attire:

http://pics.midsouthspyders.com/listpics.asp?a=show&ID=18973

http://pics.midsouthspyders.com/listpics.asp?a=show&ID=18974

http://pics.midsouthspyders.com/listpics.asp?a=show&ID=18976

http://pics.midsouthspyders.com/listpics.asp?a=show&ID=18977

http://pics.midsouthspyders.com/listpics.asp?a=show&ID=18975

How do I like it? Love it! :-)

[Tourin']

Selected other, as I only use the OEM, but without any added features. Mine is down in town, up for highways. Except I admit to playing with it when next to other Makes. Did the same when I had a rear power window on a truck once. Kinda fun at stops, to make others look at the moving gadget.:D

[Blue STreak]

The quest goes on, just like the 1100. Name any shield (except maybe stock) and you'll find some people love it, others hate it. I spent a fortune trying different shields on my 1100, and it looks like I may be in for the same on the 1300.

So far, all I've done is add a lip to the stock shield, and it does make a significant difference. Not perfect, but better. Next I'm going to try re-angling the shield with more rake, and see what that does. The next step will probably be something along the lines of the Schuey mod. Then maybe break out the saw and try some re-work. All cheap.

But I'll probably want a bigger shield for winter, and that's where it can start to get expensive. I appreciate everyone's input into this thread. It at least gives me a starting point.

[Randy Bowers]

I voted other...I have the OEM. No attachment...I ride with it in the low positon all summer as I like the wind. Only time it goes up is in the rain or cold weather.

Landon

+1, and for you guys that don't like the buffiting, lower your windshild....:D

[Texas]

I didn't see a entry for OEM only, so my vote fell under 'Other'.

Texas

[RideTN]

didn't see where you can just select OEM. i am running OEM but have purchased a large cal sci that, after trying it out, decided to use it in the winter since it blocked the wind pretty good. i did not notice it being any quieter though.

[azlife4me]

Cal-Sci large here.

[Neducati]

Just bought a 2006 ST1300 a week ago. It came with the stock shield with a Laminar lip installed with 6 Velcro dots. It worked well, but I didn't like the look. So I pulled off the Laminar lip and now it looks much better but doesn't work as well! The windshield is fine in the lowest setting, particularly when riding around town or at a leisurely pace on back roads (particularly in hot weather), but on the highway, I like to put the shield up. When I do, I get a lot of buffeting, noise and an unacceptabel level of backpressure. The backpressure is the worst thing, IMO.

I read every reply in this thread and am no closer to figuring out which aftermarket screen, if any, would suit my needs. The stuff on the Cal Sci website seem to make sense, but it doesn't appear to be a popular choice, and I wonder why that is. Does anyone who is going to the Frederick, MD Bob Evans RTE this Saturday morning have an aftermarket screen that he feels reduces backpressure over the stock unit? If so, I'd like to see what you're running.

I had a 1991 ST1100 for many years and ran year round with a Rifle +2". I found it perfect in that it had no buffeting, very little noise and no backpressure at all. The shield was raked back much more than the ST1300 shield when raised and I wonder how much effect that angle had on backpressure and buffeting.

I then had a 2003 ST1300 and disliked the stock non-electric shield so much, compared to my ST1100, that I converted the windshield to the electrically adjustable one. I experienced the same issues I'm having now with electrically adjustable shield. I bought a Cee Bailey's shield but don't recall whether I liked it or now, since that was about four years ago.

[Capt_Gruuvy]

OEM - High Position Mount

This is better airflow to me. When lowered it puts the air at my shoulders. When all the way up I can put my feet out on the MCL highway wings and play solitaire.

It's all good.