Second bike...

[Burger]

I'm thinking I need one of these...

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Any thoughts?

Am I mad? :a13:

[Pat Thompson]

Looks nice. Is that one of those models they won't sell over here in the USA?

[Mellow]

Any thoughts? (yes but there are too many and I just here a ringing noise...)

Are you mad? (Yes also but I would never say so to your face)

Do you need one of these? (duh... yes.)

[Burger]

Looks nice. Is that one of those models they won't sell over here in the USA?

Hm, I dunno... It's a Suzuki GSF 1250 SA (Bandit).

Bargain of the year... GBP5500 (A new ST is GBP12K).

Just something for fun when I don't need the 'wing.

Hm... decisions, decisions lol.

[Blrfl]

And here I thought you'd be towing that behind the Gold Wing.

--Mark

[sherob]

Hooligan :D

[naturally wired]

:cool: Nice bike!......but this one is way more flickable!.....I've sat on both and the difference is night and day!

[Burger]

:cool: Nice bike!......but this one is way more flickable!.....I've sat on both and the difference is night and day!

Wot's one of them then? :D

[b.carez]

I almost bought a 2005 Bandit 1200 instead of my ST. They are loads of fun to ride but I wanted something more in the touring vein so I found my ST and am living happily ever after. If I had the room and the money I would have both. You're not crazy, it all sounds perfectly logical to me!

[Sink]

Where is the lever to put your feet up, like on the Goldwing??? Does it come with a drink holder? If it does, I'm thinkin you would LOVE it!

[BigTom]

I have only one thing to say to you, Dave...

BANDIT

Why I ever sold my first one, I do not know. Stupid. Where's the money, now, Dumba**? I really like the look of the new one, and it's bigger! I'll be watching the used market very carefully in the next couple of years.

Looks to me like that flyscreen will come right off, put on Triumph dual headlights, and it'd be just right!

[Herleman]

Take a look at the new Honda Hornet. I hear it will be available in a 919 type size shortly. That should be a nice bike, too.

[Spencer]

You know you NEED one of these :D
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Photos/Web/07_benelli_tre1130k.JPG

and while your at the dealer, can you pick one up for me, we can't get them here...please


Spencer

[naturally wired]

Here's a pic of FZ1 Euro model? http://www.yamaha-motor-europe.com/products/motorcycles/fz_series/fz1.jsp

But if it was me and $$$$ wasn't an issue I'd wait for the B-KING!!!!!!!
http://www.suzukibking.co.uk/
Everything else is just slower!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Burger]

Well now, I've looked at the FZ1 and B-KING and stupid or not I simply don't like the style of either of them (Despite the fact that B-KING only conjures up Burger King in my head lol).

Perhaps I'm a traditionalist or probably just boring but the thing I like most about the Bandit is its traditional but modern look. The small fairing is a benefit too or at least should be. I've also looked at the Hornet but again am not convinced on its styling either.

I must admit I'm undecided between the 650 and 1250 Bandit but I like the power and torque curve of the 1250 much better. It seems most of the go on the 650 is above 9000 rpm.

Regards,

[BigTom]

BIG BANDIT

Could be the best UJM ever made....

[alphafang]

Hi Dave
yes the Bandits cheap, and IMHO for a reason. I've got a couple of mates who have 1200 bandits. The finish on them (once again IMHO) is poor the ally laquer is real short lived stuff both look like they were parked in a salt bath over winter, they wern't. One mate actually hates his enough after 12 months that he's considering changing it he has major problems with a vibration and Suzuki GB have been no help and the dealer is as much use as a trap door in a canoe.
But if you must you must.......but I think you might be just a little mad if you do
Cheers
Paul

[Burger]

Well, I've tried to do my homework as usual and I've read about the finish not being up to much. I don't expect this bike will get heavy use so I might get away with it. I'll still have the GW for the long distances etc. I've also read that the 1200's were known for vibration from the motor but that this new 1250 has that completely sorted. I hope so and obviously I'll find out if I can get a test ride on one. I'm not really dead set on one or even decided on a second bike, but I do like the looks of it and I think it could be a lot of fun.

Regards,

[Rob Hephner]

2nd!?!

A Goldwing counts as a cage...right? ;)

[Kempo-STer]

Rode behind a Bandit 1200S this weekend for about 2 or 300 miles and it was real sweet.

Burger..If you want to know more from a fellow ST-owner give Carl_T a ping and he'll give you the low down.

He picked up a used one with about 8K on the clock for about 4Gs..

He'll give you an unbiased review. The guy can't stop buying bikes..:D

[motomac]

Didn't we just go through an episode like this a few months back when you were thinking about a Wing????

[Burger]

Didn't we just go through an episode like this a few months back when you were thinking about a Wing????

Oh cripes, and look where that ended up :D

[georgeorge]

Oh cripes, and look where that ended up :D

At Dairy Queen?:D

[Burger]

Rode behind a Bandit 1200S this weekend for about 2 or 300 miles and it was real sweet.

Burger..If you want to know more from a fellow ST-owner give Carl_T a ping and he'll give you the low down.

He picked up a used one with about 8K on the clock for about 4Gs..

He'll give you an unbiased review. The guy can't stop buying bikes..:D

Thanks, I'll do that.

I've read that the new liquid cooled 1250 is completely different to the 1200 and a lot of the handling concerns (bouncy fast corners, front wheel feeling like it's tucking in on sub 50mph corners etc) have been completely sorted. The frames been beefed up and stiffened etc.

Regards,

[Coop]

You couldn't just buy a used SilverWing?

[Burger]

It's a good job I'm not sensitive :butt1:

[BigTom]

Quote by Kempo-STer
He'll give you an unbiased review. The guy can't stop buying bikes

Are you saying my review was biased? Well, maybe just a little...

I love the first gen, it was the easiest MC around to really give a HP kick to. Cans, jet and K&N the carbs, timing advancer, for less than $700 you had 125 rear wheel horsepower. Hang on! No, I really mean hang on. Would pick the front wheel anytime even with my fat self on it:)

Not the greatest handler, took some getting used to...Tire eating machine, to be sure. But for just raw fun?

I understand that the new Bandit has smoothed and calmed some of the edginess, and it is balanced, now. The buzz in the first gen was there, but for those of us who grew up with inlines, not bad. I really do like the look of the new one. Stiffer frame, more hp. What's not to like?

[Burger]

Gulp

:bannana :hotpepper

Yikes

[Bacon]

Dave,

I can see you on a VMAX. Nice V4 but old hat which is a lot of its charm for me. Yamaha is threatening to introduce the new 1800 ? 200 HP ? Max sometime not to far away. I like the Bandit by the way and so do a couple of my pals on the 1200's. Nice contrast to the Wing.

[GRN]

2nd!?!

A Goldwing counts as a cage...right? ;)

Ouch!


Just look down, you know which one I'm gonna pick, gotta have a native... :07biker:

[Burger]

Like I posted earlier... just after I put the phone down to the Suzuki dealer...

Gulp.

:bannana

New Bandit 1250 SA on the way.

Appreciate all the comments and thoughts, it made me look at a few other possibilities but in the end the write ups on the new Bandit swung it.

Regards,

[BigTom]

YaHoo Dave! Good for you.

I want to hear all about it. I mean ALL about it!

Does this mean we can get a "Bandit" sub forum?:)

Seriously, check this guy

http://www.holeshot.com/

Dale Walker. I know he has some stuff for the new Bandit, he is the 1st Generation King. Is a small operation, you call him, you are liable to talk to Dale. One of the truly good guys in this business...

[bmcdonau]

I'm looking to find another "sportier" bike and can't decide if I want to go big--over 1000cc or small--under 750 cc. I like the bandit, but all my bikes are 1100CC or bigger so I was thinking a 650 or 750 would be the ticket. Can't decide. I remember having a 175 back in the 70s and I was able to go full throttle on most roads and you just can't do that on 1200 CC bike very often.

[Pat Thompson]

Appreciate all the comments and thoughts, it made me look at a few other possibilities but in the end the write ups on the new Bandit swung it.

Today I picked up the May issue of Motorcyclist. Has a very favorable write up on your Bandit. Sounds like a fun bike.

Keep us posted with your riding impressions.

[Burger]

Hopefully I'll be getting it delivered this week (waiting for phone call from dealer as I type) but if not it should definitely be next week.... I will certainly keep people posted lol.

I was undecided between the 650 or 1250 but what swung it for me was the maximum torque of the 1250 at just 3700 rpm. The smaller bikes are good, no doubt about it, but maximum torque and power above 8000 rpm is too much screaming for me. This way I can take it up there when I want to but won't need to to get it to go.

Regards,

[Carl_T]

C'mon Dave, give it up... You been riding that puppy yet?????????::D :D :D

I'm loving the 2005 I picked up with the exception of a bit of vibration (no big deal really though, just noticable) and that BADLY missed 6th gear. I'm jealous Dude! and want to hear all about it!

The one I have has all the stuff Tom mentioned and it is a purely fun machine. I have to say it handles rough roads easily as well as the ST ever did, along with no fall in or heavy turning issues at all. However, mine has an after market fork spring and changed fork oil, so it's bound to handle better than it did stock. I thought it would be a bit of a pig, and with the mods the other owner did I found a great little sleeper bike that is purely fun and takes my wife and I two up with perfect ease while riding very stable carrying two people.

If a new bike that could manage to do two up and be fun solo, was in the cards, the new Bandit would make it's way onto the short list for sure.

If you have to run it in salt winter weather, spray it down with ACF50 to avoid corrosion.

[Tarheel_Rider]

Like I posted earlier... just after I put the phone down to the Suzuki dealer...

Gulp.

:bannana

New Bandit 1250 SA on the way.

Appreciate all the comments and thoughts, it made me look at a few other possibilities but in the end the write ups on the new Bandit swung it.

Regards,

Please, please, please give us frequent write-ups on the bike. This has caught my eye as the possible stablemate to the LT. Only got it narrowed down to about 20 bikes now, but the Triumph Tiger and the B1250SA are the current leaders in my mind. Not going to happen anytime soon, so plenty of time to hear about your experience. Haven't ridden the Bandit but the review certainly make it look attractive. Can't wait for the real world of recalls, catcalls, and nit picking whiners to start and balance out the gushing of the rags. Looking forward to your unbiased observations.

[Burger]

Well now Carl, thanks for asking... unfortunately I have to wait longer. I ordered from a dealer that had one on allocation with Suzuki. However when they went to claim their allocation they were told it had been sold to another dealer due to unprecedented demand. My dealers been promised one from the next shipment which is supposed to arrive at Suzuki UK this Friday and so I should have it some time next week. I hope this all comes off because the next shipment isn't due until end of June.

I'll post the moment I have it.

Regards,

[motomac]

If I remember we got pics of you on a Wing at a dealer and you couldn't ride it for some time after purchase. Is this going to be another of those adventures in UK licensing?

[Burger]

No Mac. The delays with my Goldwing were because it was an import from the US and didn't come through the normal Honda UK channels. The Suzuki is a UK supplied bike so the second I get it I can ride it.

It seems I was lucky to get my GW when I did because Honda in the US are now reportedly suing any US dealers that sell bikes outside of the US. They've also reportedly threatened to remove their franchise from any 'foreign' dealers servicing them. I doubt that's legal under anyones laws but they'll get away with it until someone stops them of course.

Regards,

[Caper]

I had a 1200 Bandit for a spell, great bike, and a great bargain. Made a pretty good touring bike.

[Carl_T]

Oh Gee Dave, now I gotta wait more???

Oh well, easier for me than for you I bet! :couch1: :p:

[motomac]

No Mac. The delays with my Goldwing were because it was an import from the US and didn't come through the normal Honda UK channels. The Suzuki is a UK supplied bike so the second I get it I can ride it.

It seems I was lucky to get my GW when I did because Honda in the US are now reportedly suing any US dealers that sell bikes outside of the US. They've also reportedly threatened to remove their franchise from any 'foreign' dealers servicing them. I doubt that's legal under anyones laws but they'll get away with it until someone stops them of course.

Regards,

Just a little ribbing on the first part. I wonder how much Honda actually loses if a US dealer sells out of country. Doesn't seem like a good policy on Honda's part on either end of the spectrum.

[Burger]

<rant mode on>

Looks like I have to wait even longer!!!!!!

First I ring round umpteen dealers trying to find one in stock. Finally I find a dealer that says no problem. He doesn't actually have one there but he has one in stock at Suzuki UK waiting for him to take delivery. I can have it the following week (two weeks ago). I paid a deposit.

Then he finds out, or at least what he tells me, that Suzuki made a mistake with their stock and while they showed one allocated to him, didn't actually have any in stock. Not to worry though, they would make sure he got one from the next shipment due with them on the 11th (last Friday). I could have it the following week (this week). Also, I could cancel the order and he'd refund the deposit. Knowing they're in short supply I said no, keep the order, I'll be patient.

Now today he tells me great news, he spoke to Suzuki today and my bike is definitely due in the next shipment (due with Suzuki UK this Friday 18th). He'd forgotten all about telling me the 11th. Guess I'm not important as a customer!

I don't expect any replies to this... I just needed to moan...

I truly hate waiting!

Probably a personal issue I need to deal with.

But, what really gets me is when I feel I'm being fooled... and I do.

<rant mode off>

[BigTom]

I hear you Dave

I'm not good at waiting to begin with. But when some business man tries to pi** on my leg, then tell me it is raining.....

I'm feeling for you my friend. I'm getting anxious just waiting for your first ride report...

[S2000-Dave]

Get the FZ1,,great bike,,wish I still had mine!!!!

[FL-STRIDER]

Just think of the money you'll save on Petrol alone :D

[Carl_T]

Hang tough Dave, only 4 more days.

[Burger]

If only Carl... 3 more days until it apparently now arrives with Suzuki UK (4 days after they said it would 2 weeks ago)... then they have to get it to the dealer, the dealer has to build it etc. At the very best it's 8 days away but much more likely to be 10. I know that's not much in the overall scheme of things but I just feel like I'm being fed a line (again) and have no confidence in that.

Regards,

[Carl_T]

'long as you do get the bike done up right. Obviously going to be a popular model it seems.

[BigTom]

Dave

I almost hate to post this to you. But

I sat on the new Bandit today. Our local Kawizuki dealer got one in the showroom yesterday.

It is really beautiful, sits good, I am in lust. Very deep lust. I can't wait until you can give us a ride report...

[Burger]

Hey Tom.

Well, not long to go now... I got a call from the dealer today and they are definitely taking delivery on Monday. I am going along on Wednesday to sign the paperwork etc. and so they'll be delivering it to me Thursday or Friday.

Why aren't I riding it home I hear you ask... well, perhaps it's stupid but there are two reasons. Firstly whenever I get a new bike I'd rather familiarise myself with it in my own time and on familiar roads. Secondly, you can't rely on the weather in this country and I really really hate to get a brand new bike filthy on its first outing.

I said it was stupid :D

Everything I've read about the new Bandit gives it glowing reports for performance and handling etc. So much better than the previous model they say and the torque is amazing. The one criticism I've read is the quality of the finish and particularly corrosion of the alloy fixings. This must be one of the areas that Suzuki saved cost and so it's critical to keep it clean if you want it to still look good in a few years time. I dare I'll be looking to replace most fixings with anodized ones so this may not be important.

As soon as I have it I'm sure I'll be posting some pics and of course I'll give me impression as soon as I can. I'm glad you like it - makes me feel good about my choice :)

Regards,

[sherob]

The one criticism I've read is the quality of the finish and particularly corrosion of the alloy fixings. This must be one of the areas that Suzuki saved cost and so it's critical to keep it clean if you want it to still look good in a few years time.

I guess I won't be getting a Bandit as a second bike then :(

[Carl_T]

Just spray the critical bits down with some ACF-50 and ride. Having owned a number of Suzukis (which all have this problem), I've never had a corrosion problem with them due to the stuff. It attracts a very small bit of dirt, so don't spray it willie- nilly on everything, but it is great to keep electrical connections from corroding in addition to aluminum and anything else.

It's supposed to hang on for 2 years, but you can wash it off. It nips corrosion in the bud very well I used it on a green GPS electrical connection and it brought it right back just fine. I spray it on the engine cases and fasteners with a fine mist bottle. It can be purchased in both Gallon containers for moving to a mist bottle, or in a pressurized can which puts out a thin foam stream for accurate application. You can put some on and spread it thinly with a rag as well.

They use it in Aviation.

(I'm so jealous) :D

[Styles]

I'd like to cage a YellowBird in my living room.

http://ST1100.yougotstyle.org/YellowBlackbird.jpg

Yellow Wolf could then film the gaps in my technique in "freeing" it.

Styles

[BigTom]

Quote by Sherob
I guess I won't be getting a Bandit as a second bike then

Or, you could do what I do. Live in Yuma, AZ. Yearly rainfall less than three inches per year. Corrosion is not much of a problem:)

[brianm767]

My thought is, FZ1 BABY!!!!!

[Burger]

It'll be here in a day or two...

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:bannana :hotpepper

:eek:

[Mellow]

Nice... let us know how you like it.

[Burger]

More importantly, why isn't my banana dancing? Only the pepper... hm lol.

[Sink]

That's kind of a personal question, isn't it??? (they make pills that will help you...)

I was wondering about you and that bandit yesterday. What a cool bike! I'm sure you will enjoy it.

[Burger]

Someone must have given it a pill - it's dancing now :D

[Sink]

ROFLMBO!!!

[BigTom]

Well, Dave, that didn't do anything to make me want one less. That is one serious looking MC. Don't you have a ride report for us yet?

[Carl_T]

Today's the day you sign on the dotted line eh Boopy??? not long now till you swing a leg over (I'm so curious for a riding impression, curse the drated break in period).

[Burger]

Tonights the night... well, around 5.00pm to be precise...

That should get me banana dancing lol.

:bannana :hotpepper :bannana

Yeeee haaaa ...

Yep Carl, first 600 miles under 4500 rpm then 400 miles under 7500 rpm. Still, as max torque is generated at just 3700 rpm it could be an interesting break in.

Curse that I have some work calls this evening, but I'll definitely get out on it if I can. Long weekend coming up but the weather forecasters are predicting a disaster for Sunday and Monday... drat... I'm doomed lol.

[Carl_T]

Tonight??? AWESOME!!! :headbang: :bannana :bannana :bannana

The weather will keep you honest with your break in.:duck: :D

Everyone breaks in according to their own ideas/feelings, but do consider getting in some short pulls (nothing long, nor does it have to be really hard pulls just a bunch of short ones with variable rpm. Nor do they have to be to high rpms), just enough various pulls on the engine to help those rings seat early on without stressing the bearings. Also watch you don't overheat or lug (pull too hard below the torque range) the engine.

I'll be looking forward to your updates. :yes:

[BigTom]

Less See. I think I am -7, make it 10:00am local. I am scheduled for a meeting with my Dad's lawyer. It'll give me something good to think about:)

You Go, Dave.

[Burger]

It arrived... yippee... but he was at least an hour late due to getting lost and then spent an hour going through the hand over... very professional.

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Unfortunately that meant it was then time for my next work conference call and so I really haven't ridden it yet. It looks fantastic though :D

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I did manage to spend a little while getting all the stupid safety stickers off it.

I suspect the first chance I'll get to ride it properly will be Saturday and so watch for an update after that.

Regards,

[Carl_T]

Looks great Dave! :yes:

[naturally wired]

:-) Beautiful machine!....congrats!

[BigTom]

Looks even better in your yard than in the showroom, huh?

That bike just looks like it means business. I'm waiting for the first ride report...OH, yeah. DAMHIK, don't forget to scrub your tires and brakes in a bit before it feels too good:)

[UNTMatt]

How's the Slowzuki doing? The Bandit's do look good. :)

[Burger]

Tom and Carl,

I can assure you I will be taking the first 10 miles or so very easy to scrub in the new tyres. I do this with all new tyres only gradually increasing the lean angles once the tyres have some heat in them.

Regarding running in, I never ride a new bike like I stole it and try to run them in properly. Plenty of varying speeds, occasional short blasts of acceleration but no labouring of the engine. I also as a matter of course, never set off as soon as I've started a bike, preferring to let the oil circulate a little before putting it under any demand.

It looks like the weather should be fine tomorrow morning so that will probably be it's first outing unless I get a chance this evening.

Thanks to you and all for the comments... I think I'm going to enjoy this bike a lot and with the GW as a superb touring bike, have something for all occasions now.

Regards,

[Sink]

You sure this isn't overcompensation???? For the Wing, I mean..... :wink:

What a SWEET BIKE! Can I ride it?

[Tor]

Do I see a chain down there? A chain???? :eek:

Congrats on the new toy. Looks great. Just be careful riding that thing.....

[Burger]

That's just what I thought... A CHAIN??? Haven't seen one of those for years now lol. Hm, chain lube, lovely stuff lol.

[sherob]

I've heard about those Scott oiler thingy's :D

[Mellow]

So, it actually comes with a center stand? cool.. should make oiling the chain much easier.. I have a friend with a Honda 919 and yeah it's something you need to do but apparently chains are made much better these days. Not sure what that means.

[BigTom]

Means you can get 40,000mi out of a chain with minimal attention. My attention span is very limited, and I can do it:) The center stand makes it very easy...put it in 1st while you give it a LIGHT spray, under and into the sprocket.

A little chain lube, keep it tensioned, and go. I'm not so sure that modern chain isn't every bit as good as a shaft.

BTW, Dave. Check out http://www.holeshot.com/

The Bandit KING. He's got stuff for your Bandit you didn't even know you needed:) Plus his Mom lives out here by me!

[Carl_T]

Dav-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-id.......... I know you can't resist and you are
Ri-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-ng... it !!!!!!!!! 'Fess up now. :D :D :D :D :D

The modern O-ring chains are very cool and I do prefer them to a shaft drive. A little spritz every 500 mi. or so doesn't peel the skin off my hide, so I like the way they take and apply power. It's easy mechanics to swap chain and sprockets for new when the time does come also.

I took my wifes Ninja in to the dealer today hoping to sit on the new Bandit. They said they are selling them direct from crate to customer and don't have one sitting around long enough for the showroom.

[Mike]

That Bandit is a great bike for it's purpose, I know a few guys with them and they really like the bike and they do some mileage too!

I may have went for the Bandit over the Ducati Hypermotard but I wanted the Duc more for work and occassional side trips on the local dirt roads. It's no Motard in the sense of dirt tracking and does not have a lot of suspension travel. Still it's gonna be fun in the mountains just as the Bandit will be and you'll have better wind protection!

Cool bike... enjoy....I know you will

[Burger]

OK, I'll fess up... I took it for a ride tonight...

YAHOO !!!!!

What a blast. What a buzz. We're gonna get along just fine. It doesn't matter that the first 500 miles are below 4500rpm when max torque is delivered at 3700. I'd forgotten what it was like to ride such a (relatively) light bike... and with the power and torque... wow.

Obviously I wasn't testing the handling much as I'm scrubbing in the tyres and getting a feel for it, but what little I did it felt as solid as a rock even on some pretty uneven surfaces. In fact, it was so easy to ride that it's the first bike I've had where I'd swear the speedo is lying to me and where I'm genuinely going to fear for my licence if it's true lol. When my head and everything around said I'm doing 40mph the speedo said 60!!! So little effort required to get it round corners. The Goldwing handles very well too but I'd have to lean this bike a lot less to get round the same corner at the same speed. At least that's how it feels. The same sure footed, precise handling but with so much less weight.

Anyhow, obviously I have to ride it a lot more to give a truly objective report, but so far, fantastic... right choice for me.

Chain drive doesn't really bother me at all, it's just my last 3 bikes have been shaft drive. I'll most likely be using a dry chain lube as I don't intend to deliberately ride off into a storm on it. The chain certainly looks like a serious piece of kit and is endless... meaning replacement requires the swing arm to come off. Suzuki warn against using a split chain link due to the torque the bike can deliver. They might be being over cautious, but I doubt I'll risk it and can't imagine swing arm removal can be that tough.

Not surprised about the dealer not having one Carl, they're like gold dust over here too. Sold the minute they land or in fact before they land. Anyone buying one this week in the UK won't see it until the end of June or even July. Of course that makes test rides impossible to find and you have to do as I did - put your faith in the magazine test riders. For me certainly, I'm satisfied so far it wasn't misplaced.

Regards,

[Carl_T]

HAH! I KNEW IT!!!!!!

You wouldn't be human if you could've let her sit :D

I swear, inexpensive parts, imperfect finish, whatever, the Bandit is one of the most underated bikes out there for the ride it delivers. The weight is very reasonable, especially compared to an ST and the sucker pulls very nicely as well as handles solid and very well, good ergos too. There is stuff available to make them even better as well.

I figured it would tickle whatever you need tickling.:)

[BigTom]

HOORAY!

I knew it. I hope the one is gone from my local shop...Or if you want to do a 'fly and ride', Carl? 4000mi break in ride would be pretty good:)

Good for you, Dave. I can see a little fun comming your way!

Dale Walker sells a 'pin vise' so you can buy the chain, roll it on, and peen a link right on the bike...an endless chain after it is on!

So...Have you picked the front wheel yet?

[stonecarver]

Well Dave, I must admit I'm more than a little envious. I nearly bought a 2nd generation Bandit 1200s instead of my ST100. My wife basically decided the matter for me. She thought the luggage capacity on the ST was much more practical. I think she also equated the Bandit with "crotch rocket". Not that I don't love my ST, but I still want a Bandit.

Brian

[Carl_T]

It's tempting Tom, but I need to get rid of a payment on something or other before taking on another. I'll live with my 5 speeds for now. It's got a camshaft, Holeshot slip on, timing advancer, jet kit, and front springs along with a laminar lip, moto lights, heat troller, and odds and ends, so I'm not suffering too badly. Plus I'm getting a Russel seat made for it for the Mrs. comfort in the back. Not a seat for the rider hanging off but I'll deal and she should be happy as a clam.

[Burger]

I've just covered over 200 miles on the bandit over the last couple of weekends, snatching an hour or so here and there where I could and all I can say so far is wow. This bike is everything and more that I hoped it would be. The handling is crisp and sharp and it appears completely unfazed by any irregularities in the road surface no matter what angle it rides over them at. Riding both solo and two up it's a very satisfying experience. A perfect companion bike to the 'wing in my opinion.

I'm still generally keeping it below 4500rpm for running in, but a couple of times have given it a short blast above this. The amount of usable power and the max torque on tap at just 3700rpm makes for rapid performance but somehow in an extremely relaxed manner. I'm looking forward to getting it run in completely to find out just how quick it can be. All in all though I can't fault the bike yet. I'm nowhere near finding it's limits or capabilities but it inspires great confidence.

Actually, I can fault it on one thing... the size of that exhaust tail pipe! It's enormous and so out of proportion with the rest of the bike. I've got a dual port Blue Flame can on order to replace it.

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Regards,

[BigTom]

Hey, Dave

I'm still staying away from my Kawazuki dealer...I have heard he hasn't sold his yet:)

Great report. The new Cycle World has it head to head with the FZ1, and the Bandit got the nod because of all that low end grunt. Glad you are enjoying it!! I really want to ride one, but I'm afraid I'll want one even more:)

[Lou65]

I have been thinking the same thing about a naked in-line
4 cylinder 500 lb. bike. The one I want looks like this...
not sold in US.....Yamaha XJR 1300

[Burger]

The XJR1300 is certainly a great looking bike and one I considered before buying the Bandit. What really swung it for me for the bandit in the end was a couple of factors... The bandits brand new liquid cooled engine, the height adjustable seat but above all else the maximum torque at just 3700rpm. Love the look of the XJR.

Regards,

[Tarheel_Rider]

Dave,
Keep the reviews coming. Can't wait to see what you think when you can let it run full out. All the rags released this month are doing articles on the Bandit, the one I found the most interesting was comparing the Bandit to the K1200R Sport. Apparently a little more top end in the BMW and, of course, some comfort features, ESA, heated grips, etc, but the Bandit still got the nod, especially when you factor the purchase price in.

[Carl_T]

SO Dave, you must have broken that Baby in by now. How's it feel?

[Burger]

SO Dave, you must have broken that Baby in by now. How's it feel?

Broken in... I wish. Chance would be a fine thing. Between work, weather, family commitments, friends visits and goodness knows what else I've hardly had any time for either bike. All I've managed to do on the Bandit so far has been 250 miles... so bit of a way to go to broken in yet.

I'm currently fitting a Blue Flame exhaust to it and yesterday evening I fitted a Suzuki hugger which is color matched etc. I've just got an MRA Vario screen for it too to see if will divert some of the wind blast. Not so much for the wind, which is great, but because of the increased noise in my helmet. I don't like wearing ear plugs but they're a necessity right now on the Bandit.

Of the miles I have done, it is absolutely wonderful. The handling is so crisp and sharp... look though the bend and the bike follows your every glance without so much as a twitch even on some pretty rough surfaces. I am though considering trying it with the front and rear pre-load up a notch and perhaps the rebound damping on the rear stiffened a little... not sure why, or no real reason, other than to feel the difference. As for the torque and acceleration... even still keeping it below 4500rpm it's just an incredible rush. Once I have it run in I'll probably need hand cuffs or duck tape to keep my hands on the bars lol.

We did get out for an hour or so on the 'wing last weekend and I was surprised (again) by how amazingly that bike handles. After the Bandit I expected the 'wing to feel a little sluggish but while the handling is certainly slower, it is so sure footed.

Anyhow, I will update this thread when I actually have anything to add lol.

Until then I'll keep dreaming about getting it broken in.

Thanks for asking.

[ajaugust]

YaHoo Dave! Good for you.

I want to hear all about it. I mean ALL about it!

Does this mean we can get a "Bandit" sub forum?:)

Seriously, check this guy

http://www.holeshot.com/

Dale Walker. I know he has some stuff for the new Bandit, he is the 1st Generation King. Is a small operation, you call him, you are liable to talk to Dale. One of the truly good guys in this business...

This is absolutely true. Holeshot and Dale provided me all the supplies and direction I needed to really, really beef up my '99 Bandit 1200. I mean, it was transformed into a total screamer! Stump pulling power and that menacing awsome growl from the pipes and engine made every ride sweet. As stupid as I was to sell it, I am just as 'smart' now to consider yet the newest generation to slog around with.
Never thought I would partake in a thread regarding my ole Bandit here. Very cool!

[Carl_T]

Gee Dave, I'm going to get to go put 250 miles on my Bandit and it's new seat tomorrow........ bet your jealous... not as jealous as I am of your 6 speeds and counter-balancer though.:p: I hope you get some time in the saddle soon:)

The large laminar lip puts very clean air on my helmet on the Gen2, but it is ugly as all get out. Great to have in the rain though as the wind is off your chest and up at helmet level (unless you duck). STill, ear plugs are called for even then, so you'll likely need them with the Vario too.

My 2005 has springs, fork oil change, GSXR cam, Holeshot can, timing advancer, and re-jet kit. It's our two up machine for now and a Russell seat was just delivered that truly looks like it will keep the Mrs. very comfy indeed. It's a far better bike than I expected when I bought it, and it's a lot of fun. I also get between 42 and 51 mpg. for gas mileage depending upon if I'm in a hurry or not, overall the bike's a real good surprise. If I put an excellent shock on it, it will be outstanding.

That Holeshot can makes for some exhaust note too.

I'll check back every so often for your update Dave.

[Burger]

Weather's not looking brilliant for this coming weekend but I'll definitely be putting some more miles on it. I thought a picture of how she looks today might be worthwhile...

http://www.dandmbr.co.uk/files/800w_bfe_hug_mva.jpg

This with a Blue Flame exhaust fitted (lovely sound)... Suzuki rear hugger and an MRA Vario screen... The only other 'extra' I might add is a tank cover as I have the Baglux tank bag from my ST.

Regards,

[BigTom]

Looking seriously good, Dave.

I'd be interested to hear the difference between your Blue Flame and Carl's Holeshot. I had holeshot on mine, and loved it.

Would you please get some miles on her, so you can post a real report? I'm getting anxious...

[JLG]

I'd also be interested in hearing additional reports as you put more miles on it. This new '07 Bandit has also caught my interest as a possible second bike based on some reviews and ride reports I've read. I'm especially interested in how the bike does on long rides and if you find the MRA Touring screen a valuable addition. Thanks.

[Carl_T]

Looking beautiful Dave.:) :) :) :yes:

I already wore out the Bridgesone BT-020 tire the former owner had just put on mine, rotten tire that. It went just over 3,000 miles to the wear bars, and the tread just disappeared FAST at the end. That holeshot wails. I don't know how to make a sound file though.

[Burger]

Well, thanks to the weather here I haven't got many more miles done yet but I have taken the Blue Flame exhaust off and put the OEM one back on. Shame really because the OEM one is way too big and doesn't sound anywhere near as nice as the Blue Flame but that's where the good points stop.

The OEM pipe contains the catalytic converter and I just don't believe someone that tells me you can take the cat out, replace it with a straight tube and not have to get the injection re-mapped. In fact with the Blue Flame can on I developed an odd throttle response at low revs. Almost where it seemed the ECM couldn't decide if the throttle was open or not... so it gave a sort of hesitation as I tried to maintain a constant speed.

Couple this to other bad points about the Blue Flame such as the center stand stop bracket being useless leaving the stand to smack the lower suspension linkage. The link pipe not using any seals or gaskets and being about an inch too short for the stub pipe coming from the collector box. All cost cutting cheapness and not what I expected from Blue Flame.

Finally, I found out from my dealer that the Suzuki warranty would most likely be void with the Blue Flame fitted. That was enough to convince me to put the OEM can back on.

I'll wait for Suzuki to bring out their own Yoshimura pipe I think.

Regards,

[Ken]

How are you liking your Bad Nit Dave? I picked one up a couple weeks ago and just love this bike. The amount of USABLE torque is a lot of fun. Great handling, great fun. I've added a set of Suzuki side cases and top case and they make it so much more versatile for me. How do you like the MRA Vario screen? I'm starting to tire of the air blast on long rides already.

[Burger]

Hi Ken,

Still loving every second thanks. Unfortunately due to work I'm not getting a lot of time for either bike at the moment and I don't see this improving for a few weeks yet. The Bandits got just 710 miles on it and I have it booked in for its first service 3rd week of September. The dealer told me I could run it up to 1000 miles before Suzuki would have any warranty concerns.

I adjusted the chain at 600 miles as it had developed a lot of slack. Checking on various Suzuki forums told me this is normal initial stretch and it should be good now for a few thousand miles.

I agree with you on the torque. For an in line 4 it's truly amazing. I find the handling crisp and precise. All together an absolute bargain.

I had some concerns over fitting an aftermarket exhaust because Suzuki hinted there is a secondary cat in the OEM (oversized) muffler. It took me a few weeks but I eventually found someone at Susuki that was prepared to look into it for me and they eventually confirmed the OEM can does not contain a secondary cat. That agreed with the workshop manual and so once I have the first service out of the way, I'll be putting my blue flame can back on which in my opinion looks a lot better and sounds good too.

The little riding I've got in lately though has been to 'wing events and so obviously I've taken the 'wing lol.

Regards,

[Lou65]

Here is the one I dream about in that category...
Yamaha XJR not sold in US...I tried to get those
Orange County Choppers maniacs to do an inline
4 cylinder, but no.

I think this platform is an underutilized niche with
great potential...in europe they do modify and elaborate
these....

[Ken]

Nice looking bike, Lou. Looks a lot like the Honda 919 except for the exhaust.

[Mellow]

A co-worker just came back from Brazil and said the Honda CB1300 is doing well there.

http://world.honda.com/news/2005/2050218.html

http://world.honda.com/news/2005/photo/2050218/images/01.jpg