View Full Version : Dropped the ST in the garage.
Sylvain
04-29-2007, 09:42 AM
Yessir I did it. I don't have a big garage, so the bikes are all lined up side by side with the st near the work bench. The kid's bicycle was leaning lightly on the bench, I'm pulling out the st to go to work and the bicycle fall on the right side of the st, naturally I'm on the left. So I try to move the bicycle away hunched over the st. Et Voilą, the st start to fall on the righ and I can't do a f***g thing about. It stopped gracefully on the bench vice. :mad:
Results, cracked mirror, cracked mirror cover, the shield bracket may be bent a little and the shield is lightly scuffed, and my ego is really hurt :mad: :mad: : .
Now for the repairs.
I just ordered a set on multivex mirror.
I'll straighten the side rails of the shield, buff the scuff mark.
For the cracked mirror cover, I'd like to repair the crack. What type of bonding/repair material is best suited to make a good repair. I was thinking about using a two part epoxy mix.
STill Fiddlin
04-29-2007, 10:24 AM
Plastic weld works better than epoxy, in my experience. It will make a mess of the plastic and remaining paint, so mask off and apply from the inside if possible. Bondo, touch-up, wet sand and buff.
Machog
04-29-2007, 11:45 AM
I feel your pain, dropped my Valkyrie stationey 4 times in drive or garage-luckily no damage, other than my pride. Dropped my KLR 650 2 x in the drive, second time infront of 6 rugged tree climbers taking down some limbs and they thought their job was dangerous!
I know the horse is out the stable, but might I suggest BigDawgs tip over bars? I just put a set on, knowing I will stop and forget to put the kick stand down. One word of caution with BigDawg product-my bike won't wheelie like BigDawg shows in his picture-not sure I can get a refund, but going to try;-)
Machog
BigTom
04-29-2007, 11:58 AM
First and foremost: Welcome to the club, we'll see if we can get Fred to send you your zippo.
Can you get to the inside of the mirror housing ok?
You might try this:
http://www.angelfire.com/oz/tes/Plasticfix/PlasticFixSite.html
I have used both methods discussed here, I think the PVC glue will work on this tupperware. All you can do is check it, if it isn't going to work (inside the mirror housing is a good place to try a test spot), nothing will stick.
My Venture Royale had a large number of "patches' before I parked it. The stuff really works....I haven't had to patch a single thing on the ST, yet:)
My Venture Royale had a large number of "patches' before I parked it. The stuff really works....I haven't had to patch a single thing on the ST, yet:)
No... you just paint it black...
:-)
adamk
04-29-2007, 01:24 PM
Yessir I did it. I don't have a big garage,
I did something similar last year. Was moving the bike in the garage, went to put it back on the side stand. As it started to lean towards me I remembered I forgot to put the side stand down!! Of course it was too late at that point! Fortunately there was nothing for the bike to hit. I also managed to ease it down as it went over without tweaking my back. :o:
Welcome to the club! :)
Herleman
04-29-2007, 01:25 PM
I did it twice in the same day. Once moving it over to get the lawnmower out. Kickstand wasn't all the way down. I got off, walked a couple of steps and it started down. No way to catch it.
Then I put it over in the middle of the garage where it would be safe. I mowed the yard, brought the little tractor back into the garage. In doing that, I backed into the ST, and it went over onto the other side.
Tipover wings caught it with absolutely no damage both times (well, OK, I scuffed up the wing covers, but they were already showing signs of abuse).
I can say that it it easier to pick it up from the right side than to pick it up from the left and then try to stand on one foot while you find the kick stand. I was never good at ballet. Tipover wings and crash bars are wonderful inventions.
Fred is gonna run out of Zippos.
Sylvain
04-29-2007, 02:40 PM
Thanks for the support.
The multivex are on the way, I repaired the cracked mirror cover with loctite 401. It welded the crack ok. The shield rail are straight.
I have to get some touch up paint to complete the repair. I got some highly reflective tape that I wanted to put on the bike for more visibility. I'll think about the shape and use it to cover the scar. I'll let you know how it looks.
I'll probably end up ordering a new mirror cover anyway.
Can anyone confirm, when ordering a cover, (in my case "COVER R NH478M, 88111-MCS-G00ZB, app 55.00), with the bike's year (2003), is the cover prepainted to the year color, (silver for 2003)?
Or is it on primer and I have to get it painted?
When will I get the Zippo? How much? Is this a joke?
Again Thanks
Zippo - see post 11.
http://209.144.27.3/forums/showthread.php?t=20922&highlight=tip+award
The last time I bought a mirror cover and specified the year/color it came in the right color.
You can call and check if you're not completely sure.
Mark
PhotoBone
04-29-2007, 11:48 PM
Yessir I did it. I don't have a big garage, so the bikes are all lined up side by side with the st near the work bench. The kid's bicycle was leaning lightly on the bench, I'm pulling out the st to go to work and the bicycle fall on the right side of the st, naturally I'm on the left. So I try to move the bicycle away hunched over the st. Et Voilą, the st start to fall on the righ and I can't do a f***g thing about. It stopped gracefully on the bench vice. :mad:
Results, cracked mirror, cracked mirror cover, the shield bracket may be bent a little and the shield is lightly scuffed, and my ego is really hurt :mad: :mad: : .
Now for the repairs.
I just ordered a set on multivex mirror.
I'll straighten the side rails of the shield, buff the scuff mark.
For the cracked mirror cover, I'd like to repair the crack. What type of bonding/repair material is best suited to make a good repair. I was thinking about using a two part epoxy mix.
Sucks huh? :mad: I did the same thing a few weeks ago. Lost it away from me into the corner of my toolbox with similar results. Having to live with some damage to the mirror cover for a while...:(
Mike G
05-24-2007, 04:49 PM
i fixed a cracked hood on my sled a few years ago and all i used was a automotive repair kit that is sold to repair flexible bumpers on cars or plastic bumpers it worked great and stays semi flexible when hardened,its sandable and after paintable<its pink after it cures> paid about $15.00 for the kit.
ParkerBill
05-24-2007, 05:00 PM
It sucks reading these kinds of threads--I'm afraid it will put on a curse/hex on me!!! :D :D
Bummer about your dropped bike!!!
Go away curse!!! knock on wood..... :mw1:
cmguerrero
05-24-2007, 05:56 PM
OUCH!! I hate it when that happens. I feel your pain...
Did the garage drop thing twice in the garage, early on.
It was the bike's way of telling me to respect the weight.
--Bryan
04ST1300A
:04biker:
fitenfyr
05-25-2007, 12:31 AM
I feel your pain.
Mine has been over 3 times since I got it. :(
2 on me and one on the wife. :D
Last time she got my mirror. :(
I just ordered my L mirror from Hondaparts-direct.com
Best price I could find on the net and the shipping was reasonable.
I only ordered it a couple days ago, but the guy on the phone seemed decent.
You might check the price with them on that mirror cover before you buy.
They were about 5.00 cheaper than any other online and they were almost 30.00 less than the dealer.
Welcome to the zippo club...
I tell you we need a little zippo under our signatures. :D
I did something similar last year. Was moving the bike in the garage, went to put it back on the side stand. As it started to lean towards me I remembered I forgot to put the side stand down!! Of course it was too late at that point! Fortunately there was nothing for the bike to hit. I also managed to ease it down as it went over without tweaking my back. :o:
Welcome to the club! :)
You mean we are not supposed to do this! Wow I thought it was essential we all have experience picking these things up!:eek:
StOhio
06-03-2007, 08:19 PM
I just got mine, and I'm not too anxious for the inevitable fall. I tried to put down the center stand today and for the life of me could not do it. I almost dropped that dang thing twice trying. Any tips?
johnSTamela
06-04-2007, 04:58 PM
I just got mine, and I'm not too anxious for the inevitable fall. I tried to put down the center stand today and for the life of me could not do it. I almost dropped that dang thing twice trying. Any tips?
I think everyone including me has had problems at first. But once you do it a few times, you'll never understand why it was so difficult.
The key to me is first to balance the bike by lowering the center stand all the way until both feet of the stand are keeping the bike from leaning to either side. This takes a little practice and confidence, but you can feel it when it gets there.
Next push down firmly with the right foot against the center stand while pulling against the handle and leaning slightly to the rear of the bike. Your arm should be mostly straight. The motion is more of a push down with the right foot instead of a lift up with the right arm. Your left arm should stay on the handle bar, but doesn't do much other than to help maintain the balance of the bike.
Good luck. And don't worry, I hear Fred still has some lighters!
ConqSoft
06-04-2007, 05:06 PM
Also, make sure the bike is in neutral! (Or hold in the clutch.) That makes a HUGE difference since the rear wheel needs to roll backwards a bit before it comes off the ground.
StOhio
06-04-2007, 09:37 PM
Thanks, I'll go out and give it a shot.
Geoff
06-04-2007, 09:49 PM
Put a small piece of plywood under the rear wheel ..it will help get it on the centerstand...a small gain should be all you need...of course on the road may be a problem but it will work in the garage.
UNTMatt
06-04-2007, 09:50 PM
Your body weight and momentum downward on the foot is what puts the bike on the centerstand. The hand hold is just that, a place to steady the bike as it comes up and off the rear wheel. One smooth movement is the trick.
The last winery we stopped at on Sunday on our way home from the hill country (no, I was not drinking, either) I had put the ST on the center stand in the gravel parking lot. Had done this several times in the past but this time, it was different. When we were leaving and I took it off the center stand, my left foot found ground...but to the right was a slope downward. No footing for the right foot...until it was too late.
I have another right wing on order......
Note, if the ST falls on a slope getting it back up is extremely difficult. I got her back up on my own in the driveway the first time I let her down over a year ago. This time, she laid down on gravel and on a slope. It took both my wife and I to get her back on the kick stand. Thankfully, only the right wing was damaged.
adamk
06-04-2007, 10:23 PM
For me it's far easier to pull back on the handle, not up. The up will happen if you give it enough backwards force. It's far better on your back too!
damhikt but if a ST1100 is in the garage on the main stand and you pull the right fork spring out and then pull the left one out the front will drop far enough for the main stand to fold up and if your left foot is in the exact wrong spot the side stand, if down, will just about brake your toes before the bike tips over to the right. You might catch the bike before it falls over if your foot isn't under the side stand and your arms flailing the air as your writhe in pain. Yea wings - no damage other than to pride and intelligence.
StOhio
06-18-2007, 09:34 PM
I just got mine, and I'm not too anxious for the inevitable fall. I tried to put down the center stand today and for the life of me could not do it. I almost dropped that dang thing twice trying. Any tips?
Well, well, well. It finally happened. Of course it couldn't have been in the privacy of my garage. Heck no. Stopped at the gas station to get a bottle of water. Park in front, turn the bike off, and proceed to dismount my steed. Whoopsie, forgot something kinda important. It was too late, and down she went. I promptly picked her up, dusted off my newly scraped tip over wing, and proceeded to get the hell out of there. I'm sure my face was beet red.
Louie Louie
06-18-2007, 09:41 PM
I am a member of this club(dropped ST's). I am amazed at the tip over winglet and engine guard. They really do their job! If it were a Harley it would already be in the thousands for repairs. How can it be that the engine guard works so well? Anyone can explain the physics of the ST's great tip over guards?
Tom B.
06-18-2007, 10:28 PM
Man! Some of these would be great in the TOTsters thread!:a13:
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