Question on Touratech mount [Archive]

Earache

04-30-2007, 05:33 PM

$40 for a hunk of stamped steel? The GPS would shake a fair bit, I'd guess. Doubt that this type of bracket could handle the weight.
Wanna try one of these - only with a flat top rathwer than angled?

UNTMatt

04-30-2007, 05:57 PM

$40 for a hunk of stamped steel? The GPS would shake a fair bit, I'd guess. Doubt that this type of bracket could handle the weight.
Wanna try one of these - only with a flat top rathwer than angled?

Thanks for the reply...I was trying to save you some work. :)

That looks like a great option and I could have it powder coated here as need be. If the top plate could me moved a little forward...just a little bit...that would be ideal. That would assure me that the Touratech would not contact the top portion of the console. I've attached some pics so if you can whip that mount up quick, that would be the perfect mount to me!!!!!

THANKS A BUNCH, ERIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nm6r

04-30-2007, 06:29 PM

...or something like this

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2289&d=1119309778

Ray
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Earache

04-30-2007, 08:30 PM

Thanks for the reply...I was trying to save you some work. :)

That looks like a great option and I could have it powder coated here as need be. If the top plate could me moved a little forward...just a little bit...that would be ideal. That would assure me that the Touratech would not contact the top portion of the console. I've attached some pics so if you can whip that mount up quick, that would be the perfect mount to me!!!!!

THANKS A BUNCH, ERIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gotcha - I'll move the plate forward then.

What size does the plate need to be? Give me a width and a front to back dimension. You'll have to drill the holes for the Touratech as I don't know what the bolt spacing is - but that's very easy to do, even with a hand drill.

Also, PM your shipping addess to me and I'll send it out tomorrow evening.

Eric

UNTMatt

04-30-2007, 09:18 PM

Gotcha - I'll move the plate forward then.

What size does the plate need to be? Give me a width and a front to back dimension. You'll have to drill the holes for the Touratech as I don't know what the bolt spacing is - but that's very easy to do, even with a hand drill.

Also, PM your shipping addess to me and I'll send it out tomorrow evening.

Eric

I lied...with the spacers on the mount where it sits centered should work fine. Moving it forward may put it in a place where I cannot see it while riding or at least make it more difficult to see while riding. It almost seems that it could be moved back a little but centering it will assure that it does not hit the console.

The base of the Touratech measures out to:

4.25" side to side x 3" front to back

I hope that this isn't too much trouble for you with your vacation coming up.

Thanks again!!!!!

UNTMatt

04-30-2007, 09:20 PM

...or something like this

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2289&d=1119309778

Ray

I admire your ingenuity and ability but I am not as skilled as you are when it comes to fabricating stuff like that. There is a lot I can do but this is not one of those things. :)

Earache

04-30-2007, 10:48 PM

The base of the Touratech measures out to:

4.25" side to side x 3" front to back

So you want the plate to be 4.25" X 3" then?
No problem, thats' what it'll be.

Eric

Earache

05-01-2007, 09:54 PM

Got the mount finished tonight, but didn't get it mailed. Will go out tomorrow (weds) via US Mail Priority Mail. Should be there by Friday.

Anyway, you'll need to replace the two small (6mm X 1.0 ) button head cap screws with flat head (see pic) stainless steel. I didn't have any stainless bolts so I just sent 8.8 steel. If they don't interfere with the Touratech mount, just use them and powdercoat over them to keep them from rusting.

If you countersink the holes with a 90 degree countersink, the heads of the bolts will be flush with the flat part of the mount.

Also, use plenty of Blue Loc Tite on all of the bolts when doing the final install. That'll keep'em nice and tight.

Eric

nm6r

05-02-2007, 04:10 PM

Eric, nice job. :cool:

Ray
http://www.frontiernet.net/~st1300rider/smile04Bikerwheelie.gif

Earache

05-02-2007, 04:39 PM

Eric, nice job. :cool:

Ray
http://www.frontiernet.net/~st1300rider/smile04Bikerwheelie.gif

Thanks, Ray!

It's only a nice job if it actually works:D We'll find out soon enough, I guess.

Eric

UNTMatt

05-05-2007, 12:28 PM

It has not arrived yet but a big thanks to you for getting the mount made for me. It looks great and I'm sure it will work better than any other solution out there.

Thanks Ray for your idea...it was your mount that inspired me to put ours in the same location.

:yr1:

UNTMatt

05-05-2007, 05:24 PM

IT CAME OUT PERFECT!!!!! I couldn't have found anything that worked this good. Now to get it to the powder coater. THANKS ERIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

UNTMatt

05-07-2007, 02:01 PM

It's out at the powder coating shop now. Rick told me that it would be ready in a couple of days. When it comes back I'll take pic's and post them up. Should look really slick!

EDIT:Lonestar Customs has finished the powder coating. I'll pick it up tomorrow. $15 total. :)

UNTMatt

05-09-2007, 03:00 PM

More pic's...I'm painting the mounting screws gloss black and they need to cure for a few hours prior to install. Thus the reason for no mounted pix until tomorrow morning. Looks stunning and the pics really do not do it justice. I did scratch the pc on the bottom of the mount when I was tightening the Touratech bolts but the bracket is aluminum and no one will ever see the small scratch so I'm not messing with it. So shiney, you can shave in it!

Once again, thanks to Eric for the mount and Rick over at Lonestar Customs for the powder coat!!!!

ConqSoft

05-09-2007, 03:09 PM

Hmm. I think it would be better if it were angled to the right so that it sat level when the bars were level. I use a RAM mount in the same location, allowing it to be adjusted to a level position, and I think it would annoy me being at an angle like that all the time.

UNTMatt

05-09-2007, 05:02 PM

Here are the final assembly pix....

Being angled doesn't seem to be as much of a bother as I thought it might. Not that it makes a difference now as the only way to level it off is to make a hard right turn. I like it...it's solid and is higher up now.

nm6r

05-09-2007, 06:59 PM

Sweeeeeet. And all of the pitfalls of RAM mounts have been eliminated.

Ray
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ConqSoft

05-09-2007, 07:01 PM

Pitfalls? I've been using RAM mounts for about 5 years now and have never had any problems at all.

UNTMatt

05-12-2007, 07:16 PM

First 225 mile ride thoughts....

I love the new placement of the GPS. Let me say that again, I LOVE the new placement of the GPS. I can see it MUCH better than between the bars, my wife can see it as well to help with up coming turns. The angled position is actually quite natural for the placement of it. Trying to 'level' it out would put it out of place in the natural curve of the handle bar/control area. What I'm trying to convey is that there is a natural curve or arch from one bar to the other bar. The angled GPS 'fits' in that curve and makes it easy to read along with keeping glare off the screen quite nicely.

I cannot thank Eric enough for the mount. It accomplished more than what I thought it ever would. Thanks to Ray for the idea of mounting the GPS with the TT in that location. Hopefully, one of these days, I'll get to buy you two lunch!!!!

ConqSoft

05-12-2007, 08:54 PM

The angled position is actually quite natural for the placement of it. Trying to 'level' it out would put it out of place in the natural curve of the handle bar/control area. What I'm trying to convey is that there is a natural curve or arch from one bar to the other bar.

Sorry, I guess I prefer a placement that works for usingthe GPS over keeping the flow of the bars looking "right".

The handlebar placement is much better than between the bars, that's for sure, but having the GPS cocked to one side like that just isn't natural or conducive to normal usage.

UNTMatt

05-13-2007, 07:25 AM

nm6r

05-13-2007, 10:08 AM

Sorry, I guess I prefer a placement that works for usingthe GPS over keeping the flow of the bars looking "right".

The handlebar placement is much better than between the bars, that's for sure, but having the GPS cocked to one side like that just isn't natural or conducive to normal usage.

Sorry, simply not true. I find the gps located near the reservoir is visible at a glance and easily within hand's reach. I have a friend that mounted his between the bars. Admittedly, it looks very cool there. Functionally, not too good as it's too low to view at a glance and certainly impossible to operate while in motion. He has to operate it at stops. Even then he misses the light changing green.

The pitfalls of the RAM mount are not being able to lift the tank with the clutch/brake reservoir mount in place, the ball getting loose, even the short arm being too long and the comparative bulkiness.

Ray
http://www.frontiernet.net/~st1300rider/smile04Bikerwheelie.gif

ConqSoft

05-13-2007, 01:24 PM

Sorry, simply not true. I find the gps located near the reservoir is visible at a glance and easily within hand's reach. I have a friend that mounted his between the bars. Admittedly, it looks very cool there. Functionally, not too good as it's too low to view at a glance and certainly impossible to operate while in motion. He has to operate it at stops. Even then he misses the light changing green.

Umm, read what I wrote again. ;) You just agreed with me.

The pitfalls of the RAM mount are not being able to lift the tank with the clutch/brake reservoir mount in place, the ball getting loose, even the short arm being too long and the comparative bulkiness.

My tank came up just fine with it in place, and I even have the mount that has the extra RAM ball on the front. I did it with the stock risers, and with the MCL riser also; no problems.

I use the "Standard" arm and it's placed perfectly. Never had one come loose either.

I don't have a good "from my view" picture, but you can see it here, kinda: http://www.conqsoft.com/2007/05/10/motorcycle-larry-st1300-riser-plate/

MilesFromNowhere

05-13-2007, 01:33 PM

Sorry, simply not true. I find the gps located near the reservoir is visible at a glance and easily within hand's reach. I have a friend that mounted his between the bars. Admittedly, it looks very cool there. Functionally, not too good as it's too low to view at a glance and certainly impossible to operate while in motion. He has to operate it at stops. Even then he misses the light changing green.

Ray
http://www.frontiernet.net/~st1300rider/smile04Bikerwheelie.gif

All of this is total BS.

Between the bars is a great location.

It is easy to press keys and tap the screen in that location while riding. It is also easy to see. It's also the best place to block most of the sun and to tilt/pivot to be able to block glare from the sun. It also don't vibrate there.

UNTMatt

05-13-2007, 07:50 PM

All of this is total BS.

Between the bars is a great location.

It is easy to press keys and tap the screen in that location while riding. It is also easy to see. It's also the best place to block most of the sun and to tilt/pivot to be able to block glare from the sun. It also don't vibrate there.

1) It is not easy to see between the bars as it requires too much downward look off the road to get a clear view of the GPS. Mounted on the bars the rider is not required to move their head downwards and lose focus on the road. The GPS is almost always in the riders field of view and does not block the view of any gauges.

2) The GPS does not vibrate on the bars any more than it did between the bars.

3) Between the bars, the sunlight (at certain times) would wash out the screen and the neon yellow AST jacket made it impossible to read at other times. With the new location and angle, those issues has been reduced or eliminated.

4) Passenger can now see the GPS which has proven to be an added benefit that we were not expecting.

UNTMatt

05-13-2007, 08:00 PM

Never had one come loose either.

Usually they come loose when the rider does not tighten them down well enough. DAMHIKT

RAM mounting systems are alright and if they are serving you fine, that's great. Every mounting system has their positives and their negatives. Their GPS mount did not fill all our needs the way we had hoped which made changes necessary. Now, our GPS setup fits our needs so we are happy.

Earache

05-18-2007, 11:57 AM

Cool beans, NightRDR - glad it worked out.

I could have saved you $15 on the powdercoating, but I ran outta time before I had to leave on vacation.

UNTMatt

05-18-2007, 12:13 PM

Cool beans, NightRDR - glad it worked out.

I could have saved you $15 on the powdercoating, but I ran outta time before I had to leave on vacation.

You saved us so much as it is, the $15 isn't a bother. Thanks again.