PDA

View Full Version : '07 ST1300 heat Issues??



ol' wolf
08-22-2007, 09:18 AM
I am finally considering trading in my trusty ol' ST1100 on a new ST1300 (luv that electric windshield). But after hearing all the talk about the heat problems with the 1300, I'm wondering if Honda has finally resolved the issue or is it still there? I am especially concerned as I commute daily into Seattle for work and am subject to a fair ammount of stop & go traffic.

Anyone out there with on '07 ST1300 experiencing any heat problems?

jasonJonas
08-22-2007, 09:36 AM
Anyone out there with on '07 ST1300 experiencing any heat problems?
right here, but i wouldn't classify it as a "problem" that would have me sell the bike, but rather as an annoyance that makes me wonder why honda hasn't engineered more heat away from the rider. i expect some heat, but under certain conditions the amount of heat can be excessive and, over a long day in the saddle, wear on the rider. since the st13 is my l-d machine, i'm concerned about anything that zaps my physical energy. i only feel excessive heat from the knees down.

the "certain conditions" that i've identified are in direct proportion to ambient temperatures. when it's above 90F, expect some heat from the knees down. wearing my mesh pants i feel it. not so much if i'm in my riding pants, but then i'm hot all over when it's above 90 and i'm not in my mesh gear. :)

below 90F the heat issue starts to become a non-issue. this past weekend i started out in the morning at 56F and no excessive heat. it was a beautiful thing. as the day went on the temps rose to 98F and the excess heat came right along with it.

i've also experienced different amounts of excess depending on the wind direction, for what it's worth. then you have those that indicate there's no perceived heat issue. i can't and won't argue with them. everyone has different pain thresholds.

being from and doing most of your riding in the northwet, the st13 may be a wonderful choice of rides.

gregj
08-22-2007, 09:51 AM
I'm with Jason on this. I commute daily on mine, 100mi round trip. When the temps are high and high humidity, it gets hot. And yeah, I know it's a motor surrounded with tupperware, etc, etc. But I came off a VTX 1800, where the rear cyl and header are right under me, and it didnt make me feel nearly as hot in the same conditions (e.g. stop and go in high temps/humitidy). I plan on trying the starter valve sync soon. Seems a few have had luck with that. If that doesnt help, will wrap the headers this winter. Either way, it hasnt been enough of a negative to make me want to get rid of it.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, pulling the inner cowls adds to the air flow, and reduced the amount of heat. I plan on pulling them during the warmer temps, and reinstalling them in late fall (I ride year round). This alone may be enough to make the heat tolerable for you, as YMMV.

kwslhs
08-22-2007, 09:55 AM
I just bought on 07, and this is just one guy's opinion.

I read with some trepidation all the heat related information before buying mine, so I think I relate to your concerns.

I ride wearing jeans.

If I nestle my legs against the tank area and actually touch the bike, the contact is too uncomfortable to sustain. My legs, my bike - I don't touch the sides unless I do so deliberately so this isn't a crisis for me. If you typically hug with your knees - I would be on red alert (arr rr) in your position (double pun score: 100 point bonus).

In regard to heat flowing through the bodywork to my legs, not an issue for me. No more heat than what my '86 Magna spit out - this goes to having an engine and its gotta go somewhere but nowhere near an issue that causes me concern.

The final heat related observation I have is that the left-side locking compartment will get hot inside. Not the place to store your chocolate bars. Great place to keep your sammich warm.

I've had my bike for 2.5 weeks and ~600 miles to date, so take that into consideration as well.


Cheers,

Kent

UNTMatt
08-22-2007, 10:05 AM
As far as I'm aware there have been no changes to the body of the ST1300 since 2004. A heat sheild was added to the lower fairing on the 04 and newer models (if I remember correctly).

The heat issue affects everyone differently. There is a section called Known Issues/Concerns (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=209) that I would recommend you peruse to learn about what different people's perspective on the matter is. Also, go take one for a test ride, even if it's a year or two old you will get an idea on how the heat and airflow will affect you.

Personally, I've got no heat issues with my '06 model.

Blue bye you
08-22-2007, 10:46 AM
I am finally considering trading in my trusty ol' ST1100 on a new ST1300 (luv that electric windshield). But after hearing all the talk about the heat problems with the 1300, I'm wondering if Honda has finally resolved the issue or is it still there? I am especially concerned as I commute daily into Seattle for work and am subject to a fair ammount of stop & go traffic.

Anyone out there with on '07 ST1300 experiencing any heat problems?

The heat issue seems to be very subjective. You need to decide for yourself.

Go rent one for a day and see. Lots of Honda dealers are now renting them.

skyboybry
08-22-2007, 11:35 AM
I wonder how many times this question can be asked. It really needs it's own forum. Jeez.

st_james
08-22-2007, 11:56 AM
The only time I have had any heat issues on mine was when it was 106 degrees and I was in shorts. I just slid my feet out to the end of the foot pegs and I was fine.
Normally I wear jeans or riding pants w/ boots, and it has not been an issue for me.

myhrdly
08-22-2007, 02:19 PM
The final heat related observation I have is that the left-side locking compartment will get hot inside. Not the place to store your chocolate bars.

Cheers,

Kent


Ahh, but one can keep M&M's in there!! They melt in you mouth, not in your storage compartment!!!!!!!!!!! :crackup

TMUS
08-22-2007, 03:23 PM
:BDH:

:tts1:

:work1:

:beer8:

:squid1:

I feel better now. It's an engine, it produces heat, ride faster, wear long pants and boots as you shold be. :06biker:

Ashalina
08-22-2007, 03:53 PM
I never found my '05 to be very hot for the first year and a half as I live in the northeast and heat is not too big of a problem too often. However when I would swap bikes with other folks on group rides they would all comment on how much heat the ST put out and how they could never own the bike because of the heat. The comments puzzled me because though I did feel some heat it was not unbearable.

That changed on a 1,500 mile round trip when most of the four days were in the 92-98 range. The heat became oppressive and it was nice to get some seat time on other bikes. The heat was so much that it made me sleepy and fatigued.

All bikes have their draw backs. Heat may be one of the ST but it is still an outstanding bike and a decent value if you buy it right. Many folks on this forum live in climates that are warm all year round and they still love their ST's.

jdpfms
08-22-2007, 05:06 PM
I've not read all the replies yet, but I've got an 04. To me it is not a "hot one", but it does have insulation under most of the body panels and seat. I also have the fairing wings. Now on a 100 degree day, it is hot but almost any bike is also. I don't think it matters whether it is an 03 or 07. I doubt Honda has done anything since the introduction of this model about heat.

JDP

agia
08-22-2007, 05:33 PM
I've had my 07 for almost 3 weeks now. I always ride in long pants & boots. It's also been well in the 90s here in inland San Diego County. My ST feels no hotter than my old-style Concours. Really not that noticeable to me. Perhaps I'm just used to it...

freddy
08-22-2007, 07:55 PM
This has been the hottest aug. on record here in tenn. the heat off the bike is cooler than outside temp.... so I guess i'll enjoy it while we can,,,, I've been keeping the windshield in the up position to keep heat off ... We are looking forward to winter.

MGDaversa
08-22-2007, 09:01 PM
I had an '05 and now ride an '07. Both feel about the same to me. Yes, there is definitely some heat, so I wouldn't recommend riding naked, but with jeans and boots on, I don't feel the heat enough to make me want to ditch the ST1300 for something else. And yes, the left locking pocket seems like a great place to keep a steak burrito until you're ready for lunch.

Seanj
08-24-2007, 01:45 AM
Ye, ride fast.
My 07 give me a fare bit of heat as well. I found that as long as you maintain 60km the heat washes past my legs. I was wandering if there is some sort of Euro seting or baffel instaled for colder contries. In Africa we don't need any heat.

Danno
08-24-2007, 05:56 AM
Just finished a 9500 km trip across Canada and heat wasn't an issue. I must say there were no intensely hot days along the way. I always wear jeans and boots, and usually have my knees touching the fairing or tank. I did install MCL wings so you could stretch your legs, and that cools them as well. Nothing like a blast of breeze up your pants to wake you up.

UncleWillie
08-28-2007, 12:12 PM
I have a new 2007 with ABS that I just got in August. I have about 1000 miles on it and in temperatures from 90-102 at times. I usually ride with jeans and boots and a Tourmaster GX Air jacket, and although the bike gets warm, heat is not a problem. I did put a recording temp probe in the cowl pockets on a 95 degree day and the left got up to 141 F, while the right (the smaller one) only got up to 120 F. I'll re-measure on a cool day and post that data later in the fall.

schla
08-29-2007, 08:06 PM
I live in the santa cruz mountains and commute to silicon valley daily, and I only notice" the heat on my legs when it is hot out. on cold mornings it isn't even noticeable. its not too bad in stop and go traffic, which constitutes about 10 minutes of my 45 minute commute...

I have an 04.

Computer Nerd
08-30-2007, 12:50 PM
I do 80+ miles a day on my '07. It did seem hot at first, (not much more than my old FZ1 though) but after doing the 8K mile service, it seems MUCH cooler.

I think adjusting the throttle bodies, and getting a good oil in there makes all the difference. Plus, the friction of break in is finished.

Bike is totally fine now!

StOhio
08-30-2007, 01:02 PM
I would think you have pretty mild temps up there in Seattle. I don't think you have too much to worry about. Especially when it's cooler, you're gonna love the heat it throws off.

yumajb
08-30-2007, 01:34 PM
I've only put a couple of hundred miles on my 07ABS and I can tell you that Yuma is the proving ground for heat! I've found so far that the heat issue is not there for me! I rode this morning and the temp was 104 and I experienced no more heat than I have on the Sabre 1100, or the VTX 1800. Sure , at a long light you notice some heat, but what other bike dos not do this at high temps! I ride most of the sumer here and I don't think the heat is an issue. I come from the Seattle area and believe me, you would be OK on the 1300.

Texas
08-30-2007, 04:52 PM
:BDH:

lorenzell
08-30-2007, 05:04 PM
I also ride the hot long straight and dull roads of West Texas. Seattle should not give you many heat problems as it only is noticeable above 85-90 degrees. I recommend two easy solutions and the problem goes away, even over 100 deg.

1. Remove inner cowls.
2. Remove tip over bar covers. Gives much better air flow through all that tupperwear. Small storage compartments don't even get overheated.

LZ

Have a good safe ride today.

JIMGRIFF
09-13-2007, 04:31 AM
I'm supprised that no-one has mentioned this before but pull up a chair as I have a tale to tell.

The heat is a design feature. It is meant to give off heat
Honda designed the bike for a purpose and called it the PAN EUROPEAN from day 1.
As a marketing thing it was called the ST1300 in the USA.

Europe is a lot cooler than much of the US and the heat thing was built into the design brief of the bike to keep us europeans warm. A job it does just fine.
There is no heat issue with the bike here in europe- it is just fine.

If you choose to ride in Death Valley in August any bike will be hot.

I cannot believe that some ride an ST in shorts and sandles. The heat rash if you come off will be 100 times worse that engine heat!!!!