DesertSTOC '08

[Raven]

Okay, so here's the skinny:

WEBSITE (http://www.desertstoc.illzoni.com/)

DesertSTOC 2
President's Day weekend, February 15th-18th

Deming, New Mexico

Plan on going to the Arroyo Seco Track on Saturday. It's small and friendly so a good first track-day experience for those who've not done one.

Hotel is the Deming Motel

Campground is Rock Hound State Park (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33567)



EDIT:


Please go to the following link and participate in the trackday poll. Thanks!

Track Day Poll Link (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30083)



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[EJ's 97ST]

Well Ok! Long as it aint :snow1:

:rolleyes:

[dmulk]

Sounds fun. I'll have to see if I get that off. If so, I'd love to test the cold weather camping gear.... Glad I purchased that 0F down mummy. :)

<D>

[Mark]

We go visit in the Mojave then...
Just let me know how the roads are! :)

Mark

[Raven]

A little added incentive to come to DesertSTOC ......



Arroyo Seco Racetrack (http://www.asmaracing.com/) is nearby (within an hour) and I'm checking on renting the track for one (or two, if there's interest) of the DesertSTOC days.....
:cool:

http://www.trackpedia.com/w/images/d/d8/ArroyoSeco.jpg

Initially I'd suggested Silver City as the "central/central" (nice roads near by) but we could always set up in Demming instead (to be closer to the track).

What say ye?????

[George]

Track day sounds good to me. How many cones will it take to set up the obstacle course around there? :D

[Raven]

Track day sounds good to me. How many cones will it take to set up the obstacle course around there? :D

We could probably set up something interesting on the skid pad. :cool:

[motomac]

I only hope I don't have to dig out of the snow to get there as I did this year!!! And ride in negative temperatures on the way home.

[Mark]

I only hope I don't have to dig out of the snow to get there as I did this year!!! And ride in negative temperatures on the way home.

Oh come on you loved it!!!
:)

Mark

[motomac]

The digging was fun, but the negative temperatures were not fun!!!!!

[Mellow]

So, is the date and location final or still up in the air? Just want to know if I need to update the event sections.

[Raven]

For now, it's somewhere in Southern New Mexico sometime around President's Day weekend.


:D


I'm checking on the track this coming week and should know something more by the end of the week (10/12).

:cool:

[Mellow]

No rush... I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something.

[George]

Holy Crap, Mac, it was _cold_ in Tuscon! I'm gonna watch Papa's post to see what it's gonna be like in New Mexico (Silver City is fairly high up) before I decide how much to carry. I may need an RV site and a battery charger so I can keep my vest on over night. :D

[illzoni]

Holy Crap, Mac, it was _cold_ in Tuscon! I'm gonna watch Papa's post to see what it's gonna be like in New Mexico (Silver City is fairly high up) before I decide how much to carry. I may need an RV site and a battery charger so I can keep my vest on over night. :D

We were somewhat cursed with atypical weather in Tucson for DesertSTOC.

I'm undecided on the upcoming DesertSTOC....
WeSTOC is also in New Mexico.
And I'm better acclimated to desert heat than riding in the cold.
And I've yet to get to a WeSTOC.

I think I'll try to do both. They're far enough apart I doubt it'll be a one-or-the-other situation.

I dunno, it's pretty cold there then:
http://www.silvercity.org/weather.shtml

[illzoni]

So, is the date and location final or still up in the air? Just want to know if I need to update the event sections.

Mellow,

I don't see it on the home page under Events.

Jon

[illzoni]

Raven,

As you seem to be disorganizer again, you're welcome to use my domain again if you'd like.

Jon

[Raven]

I'm undecided on the upcoming DesertSTOC....
WeSTOC is also in New Mexico.
And I'm better acclimated to desert heat than riding in the cold.
And I've yet to get to a WeSTOC.

I think I'll try to do both. They're far enough apart I doubt it'll be a one-or-the-other situation.


Southwestern NM is quite different than Northeastern NM so you'll definitely need to do both! :D

As far as weather goes....it was actually WARMER in Silver City last February than it was in Tucson (weird!). Deming is usally in the mid-60's to low-70's for highs and mid-30's to low-40's for lows.

[Finewest]

Gee... I want to go, but seeing how it would take, me anyway, two days to get there and two days back I'm sure I won't be able to take that much time off from work. Is southern N.M. desert?

[Raven]

Yes, Southern NM is desert.

Deming is only 652 miles from Oceanside - you can make that in a day!
:D

[motomac]

Holy Crap, Mac, it was _cold_ in Tuscon! I'm gonna watch Papa's post to see what it's gonna be like in New Mexico (Silver City is fairly high up) before I decide how much to carry. I may need an RV site and a battery charger so I can keep my vest on over night. :D
I gotta couple more SToc's this year before I worry about how cold NM is. I know from experience that the wind NEVER stops blowing in NM. Tucson was as cold as Big Bend was, but two nights instead of one. For those of you that don't know, 28 is chilly in any kind of sleeping bag and tent.

[Raven]

Okay, bumping this because there's now an planning poll added.

Thanks!

I'm working on a couple of the local hotels to see if we can get a deal.
I'm also checking out local camping for those that prefer that.

More info to follow.

[George]

Guess I'm second on the poll. Thanks, Raven. See ya there.

[motomac]

OK, I voted, but as I have said earlier, I may be weathered in up here and I don't have a pick-up to put the bike in!!!! My snow blower is only good for about 18" of the white stuff. But if I replace the Wing with a KLR, I could just ride through the white stuff!!!

[Mark]

OK, I voted, but as I have said earlier, I may be weathered in up here and I don't have a pick-up to put the bike in!!!! My snow blower is only good for about 18" of the white stuff. But if I replace the Wing with a KLR, I could just ride through the white stuff!!!

I don't think the KLR will allow you to do the speeds your wing and ST allow... if you do the KLR make sure you allow *lots* more road time and break time!

Mark

[motomac]

I don't think the KLR would do as well on the track as the ST or Wing would either.

[Mark]

I don't think the KLR would do as well on the track as the ST or Wing would either.

Yeah... the KLR out there with a bunch of STs.... You'd be eating dust all day! :)

[Raven]

With so much more ground clearance the KLR might just shame a few ST's on the track.....

Go for an XR650L! (Throw on a larger rear sprocket and a set of MEFO Explorers and it really rocks - I shocked a couple of sport bikes in the twisties last week - of course they smoked me in the straights.)

[Mark]

With so much more ground clearance the KLR might just shame a few ST's on the track.....


1) Not if there are any straight sections.
2) Not with tires that are meant for both on and off road.

Mark

[Raven]

You'd be amazed at what my little XR650L (Honda's KLR) can do in the twisties, especially with the MEFO tires on it. It out ran a VFR, SV650 and a Wee-Strom in the twisties and we were all shocked. I'd really been expecting them to be waiting on me and instead I was waiting on them.
:)

Like I said though, I got smoked in the straights.....

[motomac]

Folks we are still a long way from a KLR. I just kinda threw that out as a way to get through the snow.
Raven, the KLR has the biggest gas tank of the three Jap dual sports. That is my primary reason for opting for it instead of the other two. If I get one, it would only be for one purpose and as soon as I got home it would be up for sale. I want to see Yellowknife and go back to Inuvik. Yeah I made it to Inuvik on a Wing with a Bunkhouse, but I think I would be much more at ease riding a dual sport next time.

[Mark]

Yeah I made it to Inuvik on a Wing with a Bunkhouse, but I think I would be much more at ease riding a dual sport next time.

Don't know if the bunkhouse will fit behind a KLR... or the Uni-go either! :)

[Raven]

Folks we are still a long way from a KLR. I just kinda threw that out as a way to get through the snow.
Raven, the KLR has the biggest gas tank of the three Jap dual sports. That is my primary reason for opting for it instead of the other two. If I get one, it would only be for one purpose and as soon as I got home it would be up for sale. I want to see Yellowknife and go back to Inuvik. Yeah I made it to Inuvik on a Wing with a Bunkhouse, but I think I would be much more at ease riding a dual sport next time.

I solved that by getting a used XRL for pretty cheap that already had a 5.8 gallon Acerbis tank on it!

http://www.blairlair.net/images/rides/111907/15-xr.JPG


I'm kinda of toying with the idea of doing the transamerica trail......wanna come?

(How sad is that, hi-jacked my own thread.....:D)

[motomac]

Raven, I just heard about that trail yesterday and it does sound interesting. I have yet to look it up, but like I said above, the KLR is still distant.

[Raven]

Here you go (so as to not totally hi-jack this thread).

A New Thread on the Transam Trail (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32356)

[motomac]

Here you go (so as to not totally hi-jack this thread).

A New Thread on the Transam Trail (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32356)
Thanks, I googled it and came up with a bunch of stuff. It is definately calling me!!!!!!

[EJ's 97ST]

Well I signed up today so I'm looking forward to watching this track stuff with you hot'roden'-knee scrapers ;)

Ride safe......Ed :D

[NoBull]

I will have to wait and see what Feb brings, I might be able to swing down and meet up. Thats a nice days ride from me...

[Raven]

bump for lodging update
:D

Okay let's get excited - got some great roads, cool places to see, track day - looks like lots of fun!

[dteel]

Raven, I would like to participate on track day but I'm afraid I will be over ruled by SWAMBO. I doubt seriously that Vicki is in the mood to sit and watch me play on the bike, so it is more likely that we will go exploring. The good news is that she fully intends to attend and has already given her boss the word that "she isn't working those days, no way, no how!" Hard to beat that!

[Raven]

Hows about you spend 1/2 the day at the track and 1/2 the day out exploring???

:D

Glad y'all are gonna be able to make it out. Looking forward to seeing you again.

[EJ's 97ST]

Hows about you spend 1/2 the day at the track and 1/2 the day out exploring???

:D

Glad y'all are gonna be able to make it out. Looking forward to seeing you again.

Yo Raven, say can ya turn up that AZ heat and blow some in this direction, dang bud.....it's really cold up here! I know that I was gonna have to prolly plug in when 1st starting out in that direction but didn't think I'd have to leave it on all tha' way down there. :rolleyes: I know, I know...what a wus!:o: Still can't wait to start that way......

EJ :D

[geo44]

hello this is george shaw would like to come to desertstoc 08 .do i have to be a member?living in t or c new mexico.about 70 miles from deming.is their a place to register?
thanks george

[Mark]

Use the desertstoc link to tell them you're going and then decide if you want to do the track day...

Then just show up; you'll have a blast.

Mark
Member? You ride a motorcycle don't you! :) You already are a member!

[Finewest]

hello this is george shaw would like to come to desertstoc 08 .do i have to be a member?living in t or c new mexico.about 70 miles from deming.is their a place to register?
thanks george

I'll jump in here on this... George! All are welcomed! No membership required! You don't have to register! Just show up! Click on the "Website" link for more info and get lodging and schedule information if needed. Hope you have a good time and say hello to my fellow San Diego'ian Dana (Dteel)!

[EJ's 97ST]

Thanks Fred.....wish you & Veronica were coming out too ya know. Say george let me know when you think of heading that way. I'll be heading down on Friday and coming back on Monday. Don't have a time out from here in Belen but will know more the closer it gets to mounting the 97. Looks like long range temps are gonna warm up which will help these frail ol' bones feel better :rolleyes: I've thought of getting in touch with one of my old high school buds that lives at the lake but don't know if he'd wanna run his ol' hotrod buell that far with that non-exsisting hard pan seat.

Ride safe; Ed :D

[Finewest]

...Thanks Fred.....wish you & Veronica were coming out too ya know... Ride safe; Ed :D

You're welcome Ed! I do too! Next year! :)

[George]

Hey, all, ya need to get yur $$ in for the track day by 2-8 (a week ahead of time.) I did mine today by credit card. Check the track-day link at the top of this thread for all the info.

[NoBull]

I am looking at routes to take to Deming, is anyone familiar with 117 off of I40 down to 60 to hit Pie Town south on 12 to 180 and so on. Would this route be advisable this time of year? Is this mountain area, cant quite tell from Google. Weather shows pretty dang cold in Pie Town. Im gonna get down to Alb Wednesday after work, and want a nice ride for Thursday. Not really wanting to do I25 all the way..Any input would be appreciated..

[motomac]

Well, it looks like the weather will not permit me to get out of Dodge this year. It started snowing at 2000 last night and it is still coming down. They are saying 3-5 more inches will fall before the freezing rain takes over later today.

[Raven]

Better safe than sorry but we're sure gonna miss seeing you!

The weather here was gorgeous this past weekend. Tucson had highs in the mid-70's and Deming had highs in the low-70's. This coming weekend's forecast is predicting a slight chance of rain on Thursday afternoon and evening with a cooling trend for Thursday and Friday. The rest of the weekend should be nice. Predicted highs in Deming for the weekend is mid to high 60's with lows in the low to mid 30's. So, a bit chilly but no colder than DesertSTOC last year.

[motomac]

I tried to post the pictures of the snow here, but since I already posted them in the coffee thread, they won't post here. I even renamed them and I still can't get them to post here. I was really looking forward to trying the Wing on the track, but I guess it will have to another time.

[Mellow]

I tried to post the pictures of the snow here, but since I already posted them in the coffee thread, they won't post here. I even renamed them and I still can't get them to post here. I was really looking forward to trying the Wing on the track, but I guess it will have to another time.

Mac, when you try to post it will tell you where the originals are, if you right click and get those properties, you can post them else where between the img img/ parms.

[motomac]

Mac, when you try to post it will tell you where the originals are, if you right click and get those properties, you can post them else where between the img img/ parms.

Oh really, well let me try that!!! Maybe you can do that, but I can't!!!!!

[Mellow]

You can right click on the attachment and get the link properties and do this:

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27618&d=1202825620
http://www.st-owners.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27619&d=1202830091

[motomac]

Well now put the other one up too!!!

[Finewest]

Joe! I don't know how to make forum contribution payments? Can you make one for me? ;) :D

[NoBull]

Oh really, well let me try that!!! Maybe you can do that, but I can't!!!!!

I know the feeling Motomac....

[EJ's 97ST]

I am looking at routes to take to Deming, is anyone familiar with 117 off of I40 down to 60 to hit Pie Town south on 12 to 180 and so on. Would this route be advisable this time of year? Is this mountain area, cant quite tell from Google. Weather shows pretty dang cold in Pie Town. Im gonna get down to Alb Wednesday after work, and want a nice ride for Thursday. Not really wanting to do I25 all the way..Any input would be appreciated..

Hey Nick, can't remember running 117 but one time and that was in June or July and can't tell ya what year that was either :nuts1: . There are some mtn's but alot of flat between. I'm not sure I'd do that Thursday from what they are forcasting, it's suppose to be pretty bad snow/rain w/wind mix down as far as here in Alb., rain Friday AM then moving east. But the again this is a "puter" based model forcast too! I'll try and let you know if things change down this way with an update as it becomes available.


Well, it looks like the weather will not permit me to get out of Dodge this year. It started snowing at 2000 last night and it is still coming down. They are saying 3-5 more inches will fall before the freezing rain takes over later today.

Sorry to hear Mac. I'm not gonna bark too loud though. I've had intestinal flu since late this last Friday nite and I'm still fighting to get over it with bunches of water & propel,2K units of C a day, just anything to keep me hydrated. I don't have a lot of energy and may be down alittle ,20% less H2O:mad: , but I ain't out, I'm still planning to leave sometime Friday.;)

Ed

[NoBull]

Thanks EJ, if its smarter I could run all the way on Wednesday night. I am heading for weather channel now. Hopefully I see you all there...

[NoBull]

Looks great until Thursday afternoon..Deming will be 69 tomorrow, I dont even remember what that feels like...

[EJ's 97ST]

Thanks EJ, if its smarter I could run all the way on Wednesday night. I am heading for weather channel now. Hopefully I see you all there...

Ok! If ya need a break, I'm right off I25 below Alb. (Belen) and I'll be home around 5ish,maybe a bit before. Ride safe......


Ed 505-453-1047

[George]

Hello, all. Don't look for me today, to many interruptions plus lousy weather here. I'll head out early tomorrow (Friday) and see y'all tomorrow afternoon.

[EJ's 97ST]

I too got a bunch to do, but if it's decent tomorrow by say 9 or so I'm hopping to be on the road too! Some of this storm has broken-up but it looks like unless I gas it past Soccoro and T or C I get some cross winds:mad: .
See ya all there I hope early afternoon.
Ride safe!

EJ :D