Finally.... A hand gun article I agree with...

[ChipSTer]

Find it here (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296724,00.html)...:BDH:

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[dhuber]

:bigpop:
I'm not saying a word. The last time I opened my mouth about hand guns on this forum I got into trouble and the thread was removed.

[Muchmore]

Wow, someone with that point of view teaching in that section of the country. Its funny how all you hear is liberal N.E. states blah blah blah and this guy definitely balances it out.

[UNTMatt]

:bigpop:

[ChipSTer]

mmmmmmm.... PopCorn.... :bigpop:
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[ST Dan]

IMHO...very well written and a lot of interesting points! I think Coop may have a strong challenger in the next presidential election!!:eek:

:D

[Mellow]

:bigpop: :nuke1: :shock:

[Mark]

I am enjoying the fact that this 2nd amendment issue has finally made it to the supreme court.
I know a lot of people *really* didn't want the court to ever see one of this type...

popcorn indeed...

Mark

[NCrider]

Great article.

Wonder if this thread will be as good?

[Trekker]

I am enjoying the fact that this 2nd amendment issue has finally made it to the supreme court.
I know a lot of people *really* didn't want the court to ever see one of this type...

popcorn indeed...

Mark

Great article.

Wonder if this thread will be as good?

Ooooohhhhhhhh...
I sense a great amount of trepidation from the ST populace regarding this topic..... and the mods fingers hovering over the delete button! ;)

There are probably just as many that want this Supreme Court to hear this argument. My prediction... won't make any real difference in the big picture. Most folks of a certain age have a strong opinion (or no opinion) and most likely will not change their opinion.

[Mellow]

Ooooohhhhhhhh...
I sense a great amount of trepidation from the ST populace regarding this topic..... and the mods fingers hovering over the delete button! ;)

There are probably just as many that want this Supreme Court to hear this argument. My prediction... won't make any real difference in the big picture. Most folks of a certain age have a strong opinion (or no opinion) and most likely will not change their opinion.

Soooo... I guess that's your opinion? LOL... :nanner1:

[John Anthony]

Yeah, let's see: guns, politics, religion, oil, and whether or not my wife's new outfit makes her look fat. Those would all be issues on my taboo list.

John

[Lew]

Yeah, let's see: [... ] whether or not my wife's new outfit makes her look fat. Those would all be issues on my taboo list.

I guess "Honey, it's not the outfit..." would be a bad reply?

[Bones]

Wow, someone with that point of view teaching in that section of the country. Its funny how all you hear is liberal N.E. states blah blah blah and this guy definitely balances it out.

The author is at the University of Maryland, which is south of the Mason-Dixon Line, for what it's worth.

[sundesj]

Any ban on legal hand guns effects only the law abiding public. criminals don't follow laws!

[George]

Hmmmm, following some of the points in that article, it makes sense to me to issue a hand gun to each citizen when they get their SS number. Give Darwin a boost, so to speak. Same general theory as replacing the driver's air bag with a 12 ga shotgun shell. _Definitely_ would cut down on rear end collisions.

Oh, and John, don't use the "If there's anything in your closet that makes you look fat, it's because you're fat!" argument. :D

[bygdawg]

What? Get them when we get SS numbers??? :eek: You mean you guys didn't get one at birth? :crackup :hotpepper :bigpop:

[Trekker]

Soooo... I guess that's your opinion? LOL... :nanner1:

Yep. That is, so to speak, literally speaking, mine, and not yours, so don't go taking it for your own, because it is so well thought out, and written, and...... what were we talking about?

Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies.- Groucho Marx

Got it? Get it? Good!

[John Anthony]

... Oh, and John, don't use the "If there's anything in your closet that makes you look fat, it's because you're fat!" argument. :D

Yeah, I get the deer in the headlight, "tell me what you really think" look and after 30+ years of marriage, she expects me to tell her something other than what I think she wants to hear?? LOL

[Gonzo]

WHY does everyone seem to invoke Darwin? This just doesn't seem fair. Not only that, it smacks of discrimination, not to mention censorship.

I say, let's be real. What about Malthus? And hey, for that matter, why does no one talk about Fibonacci?

sheesh !!

gonzo

[Mark]

WHY does everyone seem to invoke Darwin? This just doesn't seem fair. Not only that, it smacks of discrimination, not to mention censorship.

I say, let's be real. What about Malthus? And hey, for that matter, why does no one talk about Fibonacci?


I don't think Malthus and the horseman are appropriate unless you figure this is a plague...

And Fibonacci didn't do a lot with stupid did he? :)

Face it, Darwin gets the wrap because he's the one taught us that a gene pool needs chlorine...

Mark

[travlr_45]

everyone knows "GUN CONTROL" means using Both hands.

[ChipSTer]

everyone knows "GUN CONTROL" means using Both hands.
I thought it meant, "Hitting what you were aiming at"... :D
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[Gonzo]

Mark,

Actually my post was written as a joke.

But on a serious note, Malthus determined genetic inheritance, and Fibonacci, yes, did nothing directly with stupid, but did derive the method of determining population growth (with rabbits) discounting predation, disease, accident, etc.

Fibonacci also brought the Arabic (actually it was from India) numbering system to Rome, eventually replacing Roman Numerals.

the little old amateur historian,

gonzo

[georgeorge]

So with the ban of handguns, I guess I should bring this report into the equation. Because it will be our next form of self-protection and we should be informed. And because it's hilarious.

This is brilliaint!

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Not too long ago, I saw something at the gun shop that sparked my
interest. The occasion was our 10th anniversary and I was looking
for a little something extra for my wife. What I came across was a
100,000-volt, pocket/purse-sized tazer.



The effects of the tazer were supposed to be short lived, with no
long term adverse affect on your assailant, allowing her adequate
time to retreat to safety. Needless to say, this was way too cool.
Long story short, I bought the device and brought it home. I loaded
two AAA batteries in the thing and pushed the button. fokall! I was
so disappointed. I learned, however, that if I pushed the button AND
pressed it against a metal surface at the same time; I'd get a blue
arc of electricity darting back and forth between the prongs. Awesome!
Unfortunately, I have yet to explain to my wife what that burn spot
is on the face of her LG convection oven.

Okay, so I was home alone with this new toy, thinking to myself
that it couldn't be all that bad with only two AAA batteries, right?
Yah. There I sat in my recliner, my cat looking on intently, the
trusting little soul, while I was reading the directions and thinking
that I really needed to try this thing out on a flesh & blood moving
target. I must admit I thought about zapping Kitty for a fraction of
a second, but thought better of it. She is such a sweet cat and, as
most of you already know, he** hath no fury like a cat pissed off. But,
if I was going to give this thing to my wife to protect herself against
a mugger, I did want some assurance that it would ork as advertised. Am
I wrong?

So, there I sat in a pair of shorts and my Blue Bulls supporter jersey,
with my reading glasses perched delicately on the bridge of my nose,
directions in one hand, tazer in another. The directions said that a
one-second burst would shock and disorient your assailant; a two-second
burst was supposed to cause muscle spasms and a major loss of bodily
control; a three-second burst would purportedly make your assailant
flop on the ground like a fish out of water. Any burst longer than
three seconds would be wasting the batteries. All the while I'm looking
at this little device measuring about 5" long, less than 3/4 inch in
circumference; pretty cute really and loaded with two itsy, bitsy AAA
batteries thinking to myself "no flippin' way!"

What happened next is almost beyond description, but I'll do my best.
I'm sitting there alone, the cat looking on with her head tilted to
one side as if to say, "don't do it, you stupid man," reasoning that a
one-second burst from such a tiny little ole thingy couldn't hurt all
that bad. I decided to give myself a one-second burst just for the
heck of it. I touched the prongs to my naked thigh, pushed the button,
and......

HOLY MOTHER OF @@@!!!!, WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, CRAP ON A
STICK, F@&$ ME GEORGE!!!!!

I'm pretty sure THE BLUE BULLS TEAM ran in through the side door, picked
me up, body slammed me on the carpet over and over and over again and
then slammed the recliner over my head as a just for fun.

I vaguely ecall waking up on my side in the fetal position, with tears
in my eyes, body soaking wet smelling like piss, both nipples on fire,
testicles nowhere to be found, with my left arm tucked under my body in
the oddest position, and pins and needles in my legs. The cat was
standing over me making meowing sounds I had never heard before, licking
my face, undoubtedly thinking to herself, "Do it again, do it again you
stupid d00s!"

Please take this from the voice of experience - there is no such thing
as a one-second burst when you zap yourself!!!!. You will not let go of
that thing until it is dislodged from your hand by a violent thrashing
about on the floor! Three second burst would be considered conservative.
A minute or so later (I can't be sure, as time was a relative thing at
that point), I collected my wits (what little I had let), sat up and
surveyed the landscape. My bent and forlorn reading glasses were hanging
miserably on the mantel of the fireplace. How did they up get there? My
triceps, right thigh and both nipples were still twitching. My face felt
like it had been shot up with Novocain, and judging by how my jaw hung
listlessly, my bottom lip must have weighed 88 lbs. By the way, at this
point my testicles, feeling like they withdrew into my body somewhere
around my ribcage, are still waiting for the all clear signal to emerge
from the bomb shelter. Now I know how Tom Hanks' character felt when he
had to go search for Private Ryan. I felt like I should offer a
significant reward for their safe return. Even now, I experience
shrinkage when I plug anything into the socket.

So if you ever feel compelled to "mug" yourself with a tazer to
test it, take my advice! Repeat after me...here, kitty kitty....

[John Anthony]

So, Brian, I've got to ask this. You couldn't have been sober when you did this. Right??

My wife is home injured today and was asking what I was laughing so hard about. I couldn't bring myself to tell her that another male, of the ST persuasion no less, had done something like this to himself, so I just told her it was a "dumb blond" joke.

John

[georgeorge]

So, Brian, I've got to ask this. You couldn't have been sober when you did this. Right??

My wife is home injured today and was asking what I was laughing so hard about. I couldn't bring myself to tell her that another male, of the ST persuasion no less, had done something like this to himself, so I just told her it was a "dumb blond" joke.

John

I guess I should add that that post was posted by a member of another board on another website.

[ChipSTer]

Yeah, and it is a made-up story according to Snopes... Very funny though... Reminds me of the guy that got dropped by the EMT's and broke his collar bone...:crackup
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[John Anthony]

I guess I should add that that post was posted by a member of another board on another website.

Yeah, sure, Brian. Hope your "friend" <<wink, wink>> is feeling better.

John

[CrashTestDanny]

I thought it meant, "Hitting what you were aiming at"... :D
:cool:

Aww man, someone stole mine!

Loved the article - and the tazer story! I don't have a gun in the house, but I'm all for the 2nd amendment. Like the article suggested and someone else said, gun control laws have no impact on criminals - only law abiding citizens. It's just stupid to make a law to try to prevent people from having the capability to do something illegal. You only end up preventing law abiding citizens from being able to do something legal (defend themselves in this case.)

[hoowasat]

John Lott has written at least one good book filled with information based upon statistical facts, and not alarmist fear-based accounts one hears in mainstream media ... "More Guns, Less Crime."

Me? I'm a life member of the NRA. I view carrying a handgun in the same manner as I view the seatbelts in my truck ... I put it on with a prayer that I'll never need it. Meanwhile, I love target shooting at our local gun club. I never developed a taste for wild game, so I never took up hunting.

[Mean]

Any ban on legal hand guns effects only the law abiding public. criminals don't follow laws!

And I am also sure that they don't flock to DC to commit crime because they assume that regular folks don't have guns. Arguments for and against both strike me as silly. I don't want one and that is fine. I also don't have an alarm on my house or on my cars. I choose not to worry about such things. I ride a motorcycle so I put my life on the line every day. Gun violence is the least of my concerns.

Ride on,
G