Clearview Windshield

[Hewhois]

Greetings,

Anyone have a Clearview on their ST1300? Probably going to get the GT Medium with vents.

Sent an e-mail to ClearView about the ST1300 shield and got the following in reply. Also sent a reply back to them with some more questions, will post that reply when I get it:

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Honda ST1300 GT
Clearview Shields has just completed their new ST1300 GT screen. It is currently available in three heights, Stock height, GT Small (1" vertically taller than stock height but 3" wider), GT Medium (2" vertically taller than stock and 3" wider than stock). GT screens incorporate a re-curved section on top for improved lift of the airflow for the rider and passenger.

HON-S300 ST1300 STOCK $147.29
HON-S30S ST1300 GT SMALL $157.29
HON-S30M ST1300 GT MEDIUM $157.29

LT GRAY TINT ADDITIONAL $20.00

New For 2005

Pressure relief vents to decrease back pressure.


PRV slots
These pressure relief slots are designed to aid in reducing low pressure behind our GT windshields.
Slots are located low and to the left and right of the center vent. Black trim optional.



ACC-PRVTRIM (SET OF 2) $25.00


Ordering
We ship out UPS ground and can priority mail for additional $18.00 to any destination within the
contiguous USA.Express mail shipments are also available please inquire for a quote.
COD's shipments can be made with either carrier within the US for $7.50

When inquiring on proper height recommendation please remember to include your overall body height
along with your inseam. Also specify the type of seat and/or if you ride with a passenger more than 50% of the time.

When ordering please include your name, address, ship to address, a daytime phone, credit card #, and/or email address. Clearview Shields will respond to your inquiry within 24 hours inside any business day.

We accept Visa, MasterCard, American Express, and Discover

To Order contact:

Craig Stenger
Sales / Technical information
Clearview Shields
info@clearviewshields.com
www.clearviewshields.com
Phone:303 838 0886
Toll Free: 800 798 6089
Fax: 303 838 6894


Terms and conditions
Each Clearview Shields Product is packaged with an unique clear 2ml film that adheres and conforms to the windshields front and back surfaces. This allows the rider to fully install the screen, inspect it for fit, and test drive it for performance (given the rider can look over the windshield). If upon the completion of the evaluation the rider feels they need to make a change or is not satisfied with the product, the rider may exchange it for a different height or return it for a full refund, as long as the packaging has not been removed. The rider has 30 days from the product ship date to decide. If the packaging has been removed or damaged in any part of the screen (excluding holes made for the mounting of the windshield) then the terms of this agreement will be voided, and no return or exchange will be allowed.

Warranty
Clearview Shields covers all windshield products against defects in the material or workmanship for 1 year from the date of purchase by an original consumer purchaser. Clearview Shields acknowledges no other warranties, either expressed or implied.
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[dond]

Clearview traits:
I had a CV on another bike. The screen has awesome clarity and no distortion. It is made of a slightly softer plastic than OEM..I muST qualify that. The material is NOT coated and so is a bit more likely to show light scratches and (in my case) hazing from the flap of a screen mounted pouch. The up side is any light damage can be polished out easily. I use Blue Magic plaSTic polish and follow up with BM metal polish..Yes metal polish!

I would buy a Clearview FOR these traits. I would buy one in the STock config...
I may as my bike ages and the screen gets too beat. 1/2 the price of an OEM replacement.

[NormanPCN]

The stock shield is made of polycarbonate. Aftermarket shields are made of high impact acrylic. Polycarb is stronger and more impact resistant than acrylic. Especially in cold temps. Most aftermarket shields are thicker to get the necessary strength.

You might also check out Marks new smaller shields.
Calsci windshields (http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/ST1300prod.html)

Don,
I saw your comment about the blue magic metal polish some time ago. I once tried that on a small portion of my CB shield. That stuff scratched that shield. Not really visible scratches, but a haze of sorts. Probably good for stronger scratches.

[dond]

The stock shield is made of polycarbonate. Aftermarket shields are made of high impact acrylic. Polycarb is stronger and more impact resistant than acrylic. Especially in cold temps. Most aftermarket shields are thicker to get the necessary strength.

You might also check out Marks new smaller shields.
Calsci windshields (http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/ST1300prod.html)

Don,
I saw your comment about the blue magic metal polish some time ago. I once tried that on a small portion of my CB shield. That stuff scratched that shield. Not really visible scratches, but a haze of sorts. Probably good for stronger scratches.
Norman, I been using that STuff since 1982. HoneSTly, there muST have been some other factor involved 'cuz it's never scratched..It has no abrasives. Sorry for your negative experience.
I had some old plexi pieces that were fogged badly. A good polishing with both and they were clear as...well, glass.

[NormanPCN]

No big. I thought it was an interesting idea about the BM metal polish. I just tried it as an experiment for future reference. I just remember seeing the swirl marks compared to an adjacent untouched area. You could only see them in the right light at the right angle. Very fine. Hey, maybe it was residue. Plexiglass is about as soft as it gets.

[Kennedy]

I also have many times used metal polish on a wind screen. Think it is called Wenol or some thing like that but comes from Germany and is in a tub like tooth paste.

[Dave Wicks]

:04biker: Thanks for posting this. I have been looking hard for a solution for passenger buffeting. My wife rides with me lots and loves it. But she has told me that if the buffeting doesn't get cured she will have to stop..I love having her with me so it would cause me to change bikes if unsolveable. I phoned Clearview this morning..they e-mailed me some pictures..we talked a lot about wind management..they seem to know what they are about. I have the Cal Sci wind deflectors which I have not mounted yet..can't get myself to drill the dash..looks ugly.. I might try this outfit for windshield and mount the Cal Sci things under the mirrors...The pictures I got don't really show the lip at the top, but it looks like they have put a "kick" at the top to push the air up and away....uses deflection to achieve what larger shield do. Interesting vents. look like those that showed up on the St 1100. Come on Honda rent a windtunnel, put humans on the bike and collect feed back..Looks like the after market is jumping in...What do you bet the 06 has new shield, and an option shows up this year????

[NormanPCN]

Dave,
Given the posts I have read over the last couple of years you will probably want something wider to help the passenger. You need to push the air farther away to keep it from folding back in until behind the passenger. Wide shields like the +6 CeeBailey, made passengers happy.

As for Marks accessory deflector wings. The large uppers, which he does not sell anymore, were for body buffeting on the passenger. The large lowers, which he does sell, were to eliminate an updraft on the passenger. Note that Mark rides in a t-shirt as does his riders and without the lowers the passenger got her shirt blown up to her head. Proper riding gear negates this but the updraft might still be objectionable. Mark got rid of the uppers since he now has the large shield.

[Mike]

I checked out the Clearview site, still not upgraded and nothing mentioned about the ST1300, just a nice bit on the ST1100.

Looking for another shield, the Cee Bailey still giving backpressure and water pours through the NACA vent when riding in the downpours.

Waiting to hear more on Marks shield but seems the Clearview is getting better reviews.

[dond]

Nike, the CV site is crap but their STuff is good. Call them or at leaST E-mail Craig for the STraight scoop.

[NormanPCN]

Looking for another shield, the Cee Bailey still giving backpressure and water pours through the NACA vent when riding in the downpours.


If this is an issue for you then you are just going to have to live with backpressure. The only way to reduce backpressure is to get air behind the shield. Vent ports are a common method and all vent ports will transmit water in a like manner is proportion to the relative sizes. The other way on the ST is to open up the bottom.

Also note that backpressure increases turbulence, thus possibly making you want a wider shield, which increases backpressure... You get the idea.

[georgeorge]

Here a guy selling his like new Cee Bailey +6"wider and stock height. He's looking for offers around $100. He sold his bike.

http://www.my-mc.com/messages/1/51729.html?1110302005

Brian

[NormanPCN]

GT screens incorporate a re-curved section on top for improved lift of the airflow for the rider and passenger.

This recurve poses an interesting question in my mind. Do you want it since you have an electric shield. What if you like to use the range from all the way down and up to a point suitable for your height. The recurve basically makes the effective height of the shield taller. Which means that all the way down will no longer be all the way down as you know it with the stock shield (assuming both shield of the same height). With the shield up around the shoulders the recurve could be useful.

I pose the question given my real world experience with the stock shield. I am 6'4.5" with a 34" inseam. I have a long torso. I have to put the stock shield close to all the way down to get 100% clean air around the bottom of the helmet. By "clean" I mean really clean like having no windshield or standing on the pegs. That is with the stock shield and I am tall in the saddle.

[Dave Wicks]

:04biker: I phoned the Clearview guys and they e-mailed me some pictures of the new St 1300 shield for 2005. I think my plan is to put on the Clearview, see what Pat gets for wind, put the under mirror CalSci deflectors, try again, still getting wind..put on the above mirror deflectors..see what happens. Clearview sends the shield out with peel off coating..ride it with that on..not happy send it back undamaged. As I said earlier I'M astounded that Honda would sell a bike so designed for high-speed two up touring and not have done studies on wind management. You want to have a giggle look at the tack on deflectors on the high end touring rig of BMW, guess Honda's not alone..Comfort in this, talked to brother in law tonight, told me how much money he put into his Lectra glide to make it pull a little..then bought a 114in. Merch, don't ask how much, and guess what, he knows he can't stay near the beaST.. :)

[steve18]

Dave,
Can you foward me the pics that Clearview sent you?

Thanks,
steve

[NormanPCN]

As I said earlier I'M astounded that Honda would sell a bike so designed for high-speed two up touring and not have done studies on wind management.

Two up for the ST is probably a secondary consideration, especially given the soft rear spring.

I was talking with Mark (CalSci) the other day about his medium shield. He has made shields for the ST1300, V-Strom and FJR. The ST and VStrom are bike Mark owns and a buddy has the FJR. Given how crappy the stock shields are and how easy and obvious it is to fix, he is convinced that they basically just draw a shield up that looks good and go with that. I would agree. Asthetics are paramount and as long as the aero does not make the bike unstable they just go with that. They let the stock shield have hideous backpressure probably because they do not want vent ports in the shield because people will think they will be bombarded with cold air or water of something. If the bottom vent on the stock shield were opened up then someone in the showroom will raise that trick electric shield and think, my god, all kinds of cold air or water or something is going to bombard me. "Common sense" says it will. Physics says it wont (the air flow disperses laterally very quickly).

[Fireball18]

I agree with Norman. Good observation, there. The other thing is, I think they put a windscreen on that will result in the least amount of instability at higher speeds or from windblast from large trucks and other vehicle. I'll admit that I get a bit more effect from windblast with my CB +4/+4 shield. No problems with wind or rain coming through the "NACA" style vent causing a problem. It would be nice if manufacturers would spend a bit of time using a wind tunnel when developing a windshield, so they'd sell a bike with one that actually works! Thank goodness for the aftermarket. :03biker:

[NormanPCN]

It would be nice if manufacturers would spend a bit of time using a wind tunnel when developing a windshield, so they'd sell a bike with one that actually works!

No need for a windtunnel. Just provide adaquate venting, and this is a well known entity. The one-up verses two-up is a catch 22 situation. Good coverage for a passenger means the driver might think that has a barn door in front of them. Honda wants the ST to have a sportier look and feel, which means less wind protection than a GL. I can attest to the sporty "feel". I have a +6W,+2H CB shield and when I put the stock shield back on I instantly felt more sporty and faster. And this was while pulling out of the driveway.

[Dave Wicks]

:04biker: Thanks for the heads up Georgegeorge..picked up the Cee-Bailey stock height 6 inches wider with nasa duct...Put it on when wife's along, put stock on when I want to feel racy like Norm...I might put the Calsci under mirror things on if need be...have the above mirror large set for sale..Calsci doesn't sell them any more, I smoothed the edges, corrected the angles..anybody interested...This is a great site..Thanks for all the helpful info.. :)

[PhoenixRising01]

:confused:
Being new to my ST (bought it in November, has sat in garage since, waiting for weather warm enough to ride without being on ice) can someone please explain proper use of windshield? Should I be looking throughit or over it? I'm 5'8 on a good day, rode home with the top intersecting my view. Have 50 miles on it since purchase, visit it every day, talk to it, etc. What are the advantages/disadvantages of after-market shields? Thanks for the help.
PhoenixRising

[NormanPCN]

can someone please explain proper use of windshield? Should I be looking throughit or over it?

Only you can decide what is best for you. I have read some posts from shorter folk who have cut down the stock shield or purchased a shorter shield. They wanted shorter to get clean air around the helmet area. Standing on the pegs should let you hear/feel clean air around your helmet. If you like the air when standing and it is turbulent/noiser when sitting and the shield all the way down then you will want a shorter shield.

[AgSTreak]

Phoenix, under normal conditions you should be looking over your windshield.- john

[Hewhois]

Well, I went ahead and ordered the GT Medium screen today after talking to Craig and asking a couple questions. Estimated arrival date 2-3 weeks, since they evidently make the screens as they are ordered.

Here's some of the info I got during the call:

The card is charged the day they start production, so will be charged before it is shipped.

If the screen is returned within 30 days with protective film still on it and in good condition, no restocking fee. You do, however, pay for shipping both ways.

The screens with the vents normally ship with the protective covering also covering over the vents. So, can try it out with the vents covered, then carefully cut out the vents and try with the vents uncovered, to see which way you like the best. They will still take it back if the coverings over the vents are carefully cut out.

The vent trim is to prevent moisture on the surface of the shield from being blown through the vents. It is a "U" shaped tunnel type trim that can be taken on and off if you want, but most people that have them just leave them on. Evidently, most if not all moisture that does get through the vents, comes from the surface moisture on the shield itself, not "free floating" raindrops. You can order the trim later if you want.

The shield for this year was redesigned to lessen distortion in the curved areas. So far they say people are happy with the new redesign.

I'm 6'2" w/34" inseam and he suggested the GT Medium size.

Price of GT Medium Clear shield was $157.29 + $20.11 UPS ground to me in Florida.

Eagerly awaiting the shield :) 2-3 weeks :(

[Peter'sST]

I purchased an 05 ST 1300 a month ago and 1500 miles later I am ready to replace the stock shield. As has been discussed, the stock shield creates to much wind noise and buffeting. Honda totaly missed the mark on this one.
Let me preface this by saying I am 5'8" tall with a 30' inseam and live in southern Florida. Needless to say it gets warm down here.

I spoke to Craig at Clear View today and he recommended the 1" taller than stock shield with the cats eye vents that supposedly reduces back pressure.

Does anyone have this new Clear View shield on their ST13? If so, please provide some feed back so I and narrow my decision and make a puchase.

I need to repace this shield before my ride to Bike Fest in Leesburg, FL April 22,23 and 24.

Thanks,
Peter
Palm Beach Gardens, FL

[Hewhois]

Hey Peter,

I've ordered a Clearview Shield, but don't have it yet. Keep in mind that it is about a 2-3 week wait before you get it, they make to order. So if you want to be sure to have it before Leesburg, you'll need to order it pretty soon.

BTW, there is a good chance I will make a day trip up there to Leesburg, not too far from Tampa.

[CruisingDog]

Phoenix,

I tend to ride with the windshield just below eye-level on most days. This gives me the wind protection I need and the no distorted visibility. When th eweather is really bad, I look through it. Rain just passes me by. For twisties, I usually lower it to the bottom (AKA sports mode!).

Basically, you need to adjust it for what feels comfortable. Freeway work is very different to in-the-twisties work and if you have an electric one, you can vary for riding style. For non-electric, I'd probably put it just below eye-level.

[klr57]

I ordered a couple of weeks ago and recieved yesterday a clearview screen - model GT small - It is fantastic!! It is SUPER CLEAR - like glass and the wind is deflected very well with the upturn at the top so now I can ride with the screen down well below my chin and not get blasted. I highly recommend this screen. :04biker:

I also got a CalSci wind screen and that was a waste of money. The screen is cloudy, it does not deflect the wind well on the sides at all. Don't get this product.

[Hewhois]

I ordered a couple of weeks ago and recieved yesterday a clearview screen - model GT small - It is fantastic!! It is SUPER CLEAR - like glass and the wind is deflected very well with the upturn at the top so now I can ride with the screen down well below my chin and not get blasted. I highly recommend this screen. :04biker:

Good to hear! UPS Tracking says my Clearview Screen GT Medium should be delivered tomorrow. Can hardly wait! :clap2: