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bygdawg
11-13-2007, 07:37 PM
Fire up your camping stove with any packable fuel, whether a butane gas canister, kerosene, gasoline--even airplane fuel. www.brunton.com
We use the MSR Dragonfly
http://www.msrcorp.com/stoves/images/dragonfly.jpg
Havent had it long, but very satisifed with it. A little noisy on full tilt, but other than that, completely satisified. I usually burn coleman fuel, but also works on kerosene, diesel, gasoline and jet fuel. One of the few multifuel stoves that has simmer capability.
bygdawg
11-14-2007, 01:49 PM
Very cool camping gear indeed.
Trekker
11-14-2007, 02:51 PM
I've used white gas backpacking stoves for many years and am going to convert to butane style. They pack small and are instant on. Transporting white gas (Coleman) fuel isn't hard, it just means the o-rings on the stoves and bottles must be in good condition or leaks will occur.
Using a dual fuel (white or unleaded) or multi-fuel stove means never running out of gas, which can be a plus. That MSR is a nice stove. I have an old MSR Whisperlight, which is a little tempermental.
Consider these on the Campmor site...
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=40000000226&storeId=226&categoryId=9727448&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=245
What's interesting is the difference between my old lightweight backpacking days and motocamping... it's the size not the weight that matters now. Back then every ounce counted, now it's the cubic inches.
bygdawg
11-14-2007, 06:16 PM
Whatever happened to good ol' fashioned charcoal or cooking over a campfire?
Trekker
11-14-2007, 06:37 PM
Whatever happened to good ol' fashioned charcoal or cooking over a campfire?
Technology happened. We used to ride horses & other beasts of burden too. ;)
bygdawg
11-14-2007, 06:52 PM
What??? You don't like the taste of a flame kist charcoal burger?
Maura
11-14-2007, 11:21 PM
http://www.zzstove.com/
I love my sierra zip stove. It burns wood, pinecones, popsicle sticks, anything. You do not have to carry any petrochemical fuels. If you are entering a desert area where wood might be scarce, you can easily carry a samll quantity of wood with you. It is very simple, the secret is a little battery operated fan that blows air onto the fuel and gets the wood fire going.
Maura
BridgeMan
11-14-2007, 11:30 PM
Not another "best burger" thread!!
bygdawg
11-15-2007, 08:44 AM
http://www.zzstove.com/
I love my sierra zip stove. It burns wood, pinecones, popsicle sticks, anything. You do not have to carry any petrochemical fuels. If you are entering a desert area where wood might be scarce, you can easily carry a samll quantity of wood with you. It is very simple, the secret is a little battery operated fan that blows air onto the fuel and gets the wood fire going.
Maura
Now that's what I'm talking about. Thank you. :D
dmulk
11-28-2007, 01:53 PM
Anyone have any experience with this one?
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=8169782&memberId=12500226
How well does it pack with the canister?
It looks like a good deal and burns anything...
Thanks,
<D>
ParkerBill
11-28-2007, 02:10 PM
Anyone have any experience with this one?
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=8169782&memberId=12500226
How well does it pack with the canister?
It looks like a good deal and burns anything...
Thanks,
<D>
Not yet, but I'm bidding on one just about like it, the 442 Dual Fuel Coleman Exponent, on Ebay right now. I've had friends with older versions of the Coleman compact stoves and they loved them.
I own a few different one-burner stoves since I've done a lot of backpacking and high altitude mountaineering, and the best one I have is the MSR Dragonfly, goes from a very low simmer to extremely hot. Only things against it are its high price and most of all, to me anyway, when you crank it up it sounds like a friggin' jet engine howling next to you. :D But it's never failed me at any temperature or altitude. (-25 dg F and 17,200 feet)
However, having said that, my favorite stove is the little GAZ Turbo 270 that uses CV270 or 470 propane/butane fuel cannisters. Boils water quickly, yet has a very good low simmer and it's very quiet. I've used it down to 29 dg F (2007 FL-STOC) without any problem. My only problem is that it is extremely hard to get the fuel cannisters here in Florida since there are no REI stores and I have not been able to find the cannisters anyway in the area. REI said they can't ship them because Federal regulations say they cannot ship any fuel cannisters either greater than 115 grams of fuel. That sucks! Thus, I'm bidding on the Coleman Exponent Feather 442.
I don't get too hepped up on multi-fuel stoves that "burn anything" because in reality very few really do "burn anything" all that well without being messy. As long as it will burn white gas/Coleman Fuel (the best liquid fuel) and unleaded gasoline, well, that's all I'll ever need. I doubt seriously if you will ever have a need to burn kerosene or something else that crappy anyway.
By the way, if you read the fine print, Coleman does not reccommend Premium gasoline because of the additives. They recommend the lowest octane you can get. Now I guess this would seem to negate the handiness of just siphoning some fuel out of the old ST's tank on a regular basis, but then it would sure work for those times when you run out of fuel in the stove and there is no white gas around, wouldn't it? :D
An old backpacking stove the SVEA 123 for me; it has been burning liquid (unleaded) gasoline since the 70s without a problem.
(the stove says "white gas"; but, I have always ignored that recommendation.)
http://www.greatoutdoorsdepot.com/svea-climber-123r.html
The bonus is that my fuel container is spare gasoline in case of an emergency...
Mark
Trekker
11-28-2007, 02:36 PM
Anyone have any experience with this one?
http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=8169782&memberId=12500226
How well does it pack with the canister?
It looks like a good deal and burns anything...
Thanks,
<D>
I have and use an old Coleman one-burner white gas version packed into the soft padded stuff sack... works great. I agree with ParkerBill in that you'll probably never need to use anything other than white gas or unleaded. It is nice to have a small amount of unleaded just in case.
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