How bad was your damage?

[Blrfl]

For those of you who've tipped over, I'm curious about the extent of the damage to your wings and the bars underneath.

Don't select "rolling" if you actually went over at speed. I'm talking walking speed or slower.

Have at it!

--Mark

[Byron]

Mark,

It won't let us select more than one item. I've dropped mine, let's just say more than once. :(

On a stopped drop it has only scuffed the tipover cover on the first drop. A second drop will sometime wear through the cover.

When dropped in low speed menuvor a hole was worn through the cover and scuffed the bar. On an incline it has gone completely over on it's side resting on the bag and mirror cover.

[Blrfl]

Hm, I don't see a way to change it. Just pick your favorite drop.

I've just filed a patent application for tip-over bars equipped with explosive charges that will right the bike the instant it hits the ground. :D

--Mark

[wjbertrand]

I was moving a little faster than walking speed, maybe 20 MPH, and went down on the right side. I was doing a private Lee Parks ARC course and lost the rear grip when I grounded something too solidly. Wore all the way through the tip wing cover and about 1/3 of the way through the underlying metal bar. No other damage at all. The shower of sparks was quite entertaining as well.

[Kempo-STer]

5 time veteran on the left side...still got the same wing cover...

[SupraSabre]

Okay, how about adding..."None...Been able to Keep it up!"? :rolleyes:

[Byron]

Mark,

You need to modify your design slightly. It needs to go off JUST prior to touching the ground. That way it doesn't leave ANY marks. :D

[Lou65]

Which time?

[Blrfl]

Pick your favorite.

--Mark

[tdeboeser]

Went down on the left side at about 25mph. The ST fell hard and slid, bending the crash bar slightly. I rode with it for 2 years. I recently injured myself trying to fix the bend. Just ended up replacing the bar.

I will say " Thank God for Crash bars", ~$100 to replace the actual bar, $15-20 for the plastic bit. Any other bike.... well it'd be more.

Tom de

[pretbek]

I am convinced that new *anything* actually attracts damage.

Two days after putting a brand spanking new tip-over wing on my bike, I stalled the engine while making a full-lock parking lot turn. I guess I am out of practice after not riding for half a year. :rolleyes:
Slooooooowly but inevitably the bike went over. Now that cover has some gravel indentations in it. :yes:

[Dalton]

So it sounds like the saddle bags and pop-off mirrors pretty much escape any issures on slow speed tip overs?

[Kempo-STer]

So it sounds like the saddle bags and pop-off mirrors pretty much escape any issures on slow speed tip overs?

yes they most certainly DO!

[wjbertrand]

So it sounds like the saddle bags and pop-off mirrors pretty much escape any issures on slow speed tip overs?

That's been my experience. Besides the low-side whilst underway, described above. I've also dropped it twice on the left side at 0 MPH, engine off. Once in gas station :o: , and another time in my driveway. Scuffed wings was the extent of the damage in those cases. I've decided to leave the latest scuffed one in place to ward off further drops.

[Lou65]

I would never consider a full lock turn....isn't that a bit
risky?

Yes I do have to go down the sometime to find a
comfortable turnaround.

[STill Fiddlin]

So it sounds like the saddle bags and pop-off mirrors pretty much escape any issures on slow speed tip overs?I've crushed a mirror and cover both on an 1100 - not proud to admit it, but both (2 separate TOs!) happened in 1st 4 months of ownership. A month short of 2 years w/o further incident.

The mirror was weird - trying to manually wrestle the bike into a parking spot after failing to coast/bump start a dead battery in a nearly flat parking lot. Bike was very new to me, and had that 1st time, surprise thought I know many of you recall - "Wow, this is heavy, and I'm not going to be able to stop this, am I?" Slow rock over, cover popped off, and then it rocked slowly back down a 2nd time, and the mirror caught just enough rock in the macadam to keep it from folding where it should have, and the glass just turned to powder.

2nd fall was at CheapSTOC - saw others had pulled up on sidewalk outside room instead of in parking spot. I thought, that looks good, but didn't judge the slight difference in elevation between sidewalk and lot, or my state of tiredness after riding all day. Put foot down - air. Timber. Cover broke, maybe because of non-level fall area (TOW probably missed sidewalk). Coop helped me pick it up (thanks!). Nearly $200 between the 2, so I got real careful after that...

TOC's actually don't show enough damage to bother replacing. Higher speed slides will grind one up, though...

[EJ's 97ST]

Yea, alot of us have been there even if it wasn't on the ST. Mine was just about a week after buying the 97 and pulling into work and at walk speed cranking it to the right "jus touched " the front brake :nuts1: and it did that aaaahhhh sh*t :o4: layover. Scuffed the wing cover.:o: But there was a blessing to this...I found out the the PO had dropped it several times on both sides after getting it home for repairs and finding the bars slightly scrapped up under poorley repaired covers.....so that was one of the 1st cosmetic repairs required. I learned how to manipulate the ABS plastic with a heat gun and what fiberglass cloth or plastic drywall tape and epoxies to use.

Ride safe and errrrr' park careful ;)
Ed

[Dalton]

That's IMPRESSIVE! And the new Concours 14 has none??! $$$

[dduelin]

I would never consider a full lock turn....isn't that a bit
risky?

Yes I do have to go down the sometime to find a
comfortable turnaround.
No it isn't risky. Well, it might be the first time you try it if you go to full lock the first time but working up to it a little tighter and tighter gives you the confidence it can be done easily. Anything that builds confidence in your abilities is a good thing isn't it?

How would you feel if you had a $20,000 BMW with no tip over protection and the "heavy" Honda in front of you just pulled a 180 on a skinny country road just easy-peasy? That is the guy that thinks it is risky. He will never see what his bike is really capable of in slow speed skills, he is afraid of scratching it.

[Tom P]

When I first started dropping it I thought I was alone and embarassed in the world :o: So glad to see all the company.
I finally learned the lesson of not replacing the wings and on one in which the mirror case was split I found Loctite's wonderful epoxy for plastics that is still holding after 15,000.

I thank the Lord many a time for that little gal who showed us brutts how to pick it up with the butt, and thank Him a lot more for all those helpful guys who help me pick it up when I could not even do it with the butt :(

[Geoff]

Mark...I got a better idea...tip over bar air bags...it gets past the point of no return and the bag blows..now thats an invention.:D :D

[sirepair]

Did a lil "oopsie" to the right in a hotel parking lot with the Munchkin Pillion on back, didn't compensate for the grade/load on bike etc. As it fell, I just jumped off the right. She rode it out! Looked up at me and said "What'd ya do that for?"

She was dismayed, but completely OK! She may have gotten a broken leg on some "other" bike. TOW was just scuffed. I LOVE the TOWs!

[sirepair]

Mark...I got a better idea...tip over bar air bags...it gets past the point of no return and the bag blows..now thats an invention.:D :D

Just make sure you can "reload" for the next time!!

[Kempo-STer]

I recently injured myself trying to fix the bend. Tom de

Now THIS is what I call ironic

[DAS]

How about adding "scuffed while making slow speed turns in a parking lot" ?? Mine are so banged up by PO and my one drop in the garage and repairs that it's hard to tell what alls been done tot he poor things.

[st1300honda]

For those of you who've tipped over, I'm curious about the extent of the damage to your wings and the bars underneath.

Don't select "rolling" if you actually went over at speed. I'm talking walking speed or slower.

Have at it!

--Mark

You're missing something...dropped over while stopped, and putting yourself inbetween the bike and ground as to do no damage/scuffing!

Stupid me last summer put the bike in the garage after cutting the lawn. Wasn't thinking, shut it off, got off, and realized that I never put the side-stand down. Started to go over to the right, I pulled it back, and it kept on coming and fell on me. Scuff on new Honda Line top box from wife's new Ninja's license plate, that I fell on and knocked over in the process. Was trapped under the bike until wife and son helped lift it off moments later.

Felt so bad about the two stress cracks I put in her fairing from landing on it with my body that it cost me $1000 to get her some new fairing. Just tried to do the right thing. Now I've got back-up fairing for her if she puts it down.

Totally sober when this happened too...mind just took a break.

D'oh!!! :soapbox

[Frank Cerynik]

None, not even a scuff. Of course it was grass.