CampSTOC II - 2006

[Mellow]

Okay... let's do it again...

Date - May 17-20,2006
Location - Devil's Fork camp site on Greers Ferry Lake in Arkansas

Here's the link to some campsite info:
http://www.swl.usace.army.mil/parks/greersferry/campgroundmaps.htm#DevilsFork

[sandman]

I thought NaSToc was in that time frame in Eureka Springs.

What happened to NaSToc?


Gordon

[Mellow]

I wanted to make NatSTOC in Sept/Oct timeframe so those in the northern regions could make it. Don't worry, I haven't forgotten.

[Mellow]

Well... maybe mid Sept....

[sandman]

If the weather is anything like this year early May is a great time in NorthWest Arkansas.

One thing we did find is Mt. Magazine is about 50 miles too far south of the best bike roads. Somewhere a little more North of there would put us closer to SR123 and other great rides. But you can't have everything, if Petit Jean is a great campground then let's go for it.


Gordon

[Mellow]

Petit Jean is a bigger campground... give me some better directions to SR123 or let me know if there's a state park nearby and I'll change it to that one.

[Mellow]

It looks like Lake Dardanelle SP is another option that puts us close to hwy 7 and SR 123... any opinions?

[crazykz]

Get rid of the bears and I'll be there. ;)

Curt

[Doobage]

Buffalo National River park is excellent, I stayed along several of the campsites along the river and Buffalo Point had some nice showers and certainly major twisties. I was in a Cage (Jetta), but it was a hoot to hug the roads.

Lost Valley on the upper part of the river was also a VERY twisty road, but rather primitive camping (no showers) but has a cool hike to a small cave.

[Mellow]

In all my camping...
I've never seen a bear...
I've seen deer, rabits, turtles and javelenas, that's it...

As long as you don't keep food in your campsite you'll be fine with animals.. they really don't want you, they want the easy prey, you'd probably run and that's just too much work for them... :eek:

[Killtimer]

As long as you don't keep food in your campsite you'll be fine with animals.. they really don't want you, they want the easy prey, you'd probably run and that's just too much work for them... :eek:

Maybe where you live. Check it Out (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1526&e=2&u=/afp/20050606/wl_canada_afp/canadaattackbear_050606200155)

Parks Dept. drops these bad boys (if they're not shot) about 20 miles from where I sit........ no ****.

[Killtimer]

Well... maybe mid Sept....

You can almost bet on WeSToc being early September. :)

[MikeP1300]

:eek:
Curt;
You need to read Bill Bryson's book, A Walk In the Woods. the entire first chapter is dedicted to bears and what they've done to humans. cool.
Did Allyson tell her Ozark bear story?
Besides, it's a great book.

As far as camping in NW arkansas, if someone could get to Long Pool CG on the Big Piney creek thursday to claim some sites, that would be cool. It's on 164 very near the southern end of 123. Unfortunately, it's a Forest service camp ground and I don't think you can reserve sites. Nice spot though, with showers.
Buffalo point is very nice, but can be a zoo. Perfect.

[mageerc]

Joe,

I wish you would check out and consider a National Forest Service campground called Longpool. Longpool is located off Hwy 164 just north of Dover, AR. Hwy 123 is very close as is Scenic Hwy 7. The campground has hot showers, nice primative campsites and RV site with full hookups as well. It even has a pavillion that can be reserved for collective BBQs. Not too many places any more awesome in beauty in the state of Arkansas exist. I've spent many wonderful nights there on the banks of Big Piney Creek which borders the campground. It has everything... good hiking, fantastic canoeing on a world class whitewater stream, great roads for riding and is close enought to a population center (Russelville, AR is about 20 miles south) that members who don't want to camp can lodge there. Trust me on this one... even if you decide against Longpool, please make it a point to camp there in the future or risk missing out on a great camping experience.



Randy Magee

[sandman]

Curt,

There's no bears in Arkansas! This is the civilized and over-populated South, we don't allow bears to interfere with our fun. :crackup

Setup your tent and don't worry about non-existent amnimule problems. :cf1:



Gordon

[crazykz]

Parks Dept. drops these bad boys (if they're not shot) about 20 miles from where I sit........ no ****.

SEE!!! I told you. Oh man I'm lucky I wasn't eaten alive tent and all. :eek:

Curt

[crazykz]

Curt,

There's no bears in Arkansas! This is the civilized and over-populated South, we don't allow bears to interfere with our fun. :crackup

Setup your tent and don't worry about non-existent amnimule problems. :cf1:



Gordon

I'm packin' my tent and a friggin' bazooka!!

[Mellow]

You guys are scaring Curt off... :eek:

Looks like two votes for Longpool..... I'll see what info. I can find on it..

[dannyk]

Two years ago while at a friends place in Utah there was a short radio blurb where a group of scouts were camping by a river someplace in the wilds and a bear dragged a scout out of his tent still in the sleeping bag :eek:

[georgeorge]

yeah but he was probbly hugging a bag of marshmellows!

[Bill Ishmael]

When I met MikeP1300 at Mt Magazine this year he told me how far he had to drive to get to some good roads. After being shown where he had ridden, I told him that he ought to try Devil's Fork camp site on Greers Ferry Lake sometime. It is very close to the area that he enjoyed riding in. The following is a link to the COE site for Greers Ferry.

http://www.swl.usace.army.mil/parks/greersferry/campgroundmaps.htm#DevilsFork

I am not pushing this area. I like Petit Jean also.

Bill

[MikeP1300]

Two years ago while at a friends place in Utah there was a short radio blurb where a group of scouts were camping by a river someplace in the wilds and a bear dragged a scout out of his tent still in the sleeping bag :eek:


I hate to say it, but humans that were dragged from their tent by a bear were probably eating twinkies at the time. Or maybe forgot about that leftover hamburger in their pocket. However, I've seen bear attack reports where the only suspect item was cherry chapstick.

Anyway, Let's put this into perspective for Curt, We're talking about a handful of attacks out of billions of days spent in the woods. You're worried about bears when you're about to ride 1000 miles in a couple of hours? Humans are infinitely more hazardous to your health than bears. Especially if they're talking on the cell phone, lighting a cig, and trying to find that ABBA cd under the seat. Hell, we're our own worst enemy. :p:
You have a better chance winning the lottery. But you gotta buy a ticket.

A year or 2 back a couple were murdered in their tent by a psycho up on Rich mtn, Talimena camp ground.

[jnsgardner]

Mellow,

The Hot Springs area is really nice. A touch to the north..the American river in southern MI is super with lots of camping. The river is clear provided by little artesians instead of the usual muddy.. too thick to drink, too thin to plow...kind. Tubbing is a hoot and a great way to cool off.

John

[Bill Ishmael]

Mellow,

The Hot Springs area is really nice. A touch to the north..the American river in southern MI is super with lots of camping. The river is clear provided by little artesians instead of the usual muddy.. too thick to drink, too thin to plow...kind. Tubbing is a hoot and a great way to cool off.

John

Not to mention the MI mosquitos from Hell! They can fly off with small children and dogs. They team up with the bears!:22yikes:

[Hewhois]

I may be able to make this one. Leave Monday morn, get there Tuesday eve, nice and easy like. Then leave there Sunday morn and get back home Monday eve. Have Sun-Tue off all the time, so would just need 4 days off work, hmmm.

Would it be OK to bring some friends who ride cruisers? Don't know if they can go, but we are planning on a trip next year & I would love to combine 2 for 1 :)

[Doobage]

My wife and I stayed and visited most of the campsites along the river from Lost Valley over to Buffalo Point. Buffalo Point was certainly the most accomodating with it's showers, close proximity to a canoe outfitter, and very nice camping spots seperate from the RV's. Lost Valley was probably the most remote, but very fun twisties going to it (I was in a Jetta) but nevertheless it was barking the tires on every turn.

I'd like to go anywhere in northern Arkansas. So I'll be watching the plans form around this one and try to put in my two cents.

Oh, and bears in Arkansas are NOT a problem. My wife who is paranoid about bears beyond all rational belief was relaxed after talking to nearly every local and National and State park ranger. But as when camping it's ALWAYS important to not "wear" your food.

And I just talked to my wife and she is READY for this ride.

[AgSTreak]

I'm in for this and there are probably a few others from the NE that will attend. This would be a great way to start off the serious riding season. I've spent some time in the Hot Springs area. Food, roads and people are terrific.

[Biddyman]

Just make it where a hotel is close by for Curt.

[Mellow]

Maybe we can find one with bear heads mounted in every room.

[Blackdog]

Hmmmmm! Camp near Scouts? Is that like parking next to a Harley at night? LOL!

[Diggers1300]

Curt,

There's no bears in Arkansas! This is the civilized and over-populated South, we don't allow bears to interfere with our fun. :crackup

Setup your tent and don't worry about non-existent amnimule problems. :cf1:



Gordon


Just got back from a camping trip in Arkansas. Among the normal critters that you see in the woods, we were fortunate enough to see a juvenile black bear and a badger! I say fortunate because most people go all their lives and never see the likes of these two in the wild. The only thing they were interested in was getting away from us - FAST!!

Just wished I had time to snap a picture or two.

[Mellow]

I may be able to make this one. Leave Monday morn, get there Tuesday eve, nice and easy like. Then leave there Sunday morn and get back home Monday eve. Have Sun-Tue off all the time, so would just need 4 days off work, hmmm.

Would it be OK to bring some friends who ride cruisers? Don't know if they can go, but we are planning on a trip next year & I would love to combine 2 for 1 :)

Hew... sorry for the late response... never saw this post..

The more the merrier.. invite whomever you wish.

[Mellow]

When I met MikeP1300 at Mt Magazine this year he told me how far he had to drive to get to some good roads. After being shown where he had ridden, I told him that he ought to try Devil's Fork camp site on Greers Ferry Lake sometime. It is very close to the area that he enjoyed riding in. The following is a link to the COE site for Greers Ferry.

http://www.swl.usace.army.mil/parks/greersferry/campgroundmaps.htm#DevilsFork

I am not pushing this area. I like Petit Jean also.

Bill

I'm really thinking this is the spot... I'll select it if no one has any major issues...

[MikeP1300]

Petit Jean is nice. We've stayed in the lodge a few times but never camped there. It's still too far from the good stuff. Bill's suggestion of Devils Fork near Heber Springs would be a better choice, IMO.

FYI. Last month a friend showed us a nice little lodge in Ponca that has a few cabins and a hostel sort of service. I think it was called The Lodge. I'll check on it if anyone is interested. There's not a whole lot to Ponca, only a general store. Jasper is about 20 minutes away with more eatery and lodging choices. Both of these locations put you in the middle of the good twisities and within striking distance of everything in N Arkansas.

[Mellow]

The location will be Devil's Fork...

Now, reservable campsites don't start 'til 5/16, a week after the current planned dates for CampSTOC.

WOULD ANYONE MIND ME CHANGING THE DATES FROM 5/10-13 TO 5/17-20 ???????

[Biddyman]

The location will be Devil's Fork...

Now, reservable campsites don't start 'til 5/16, a week after the current planned dates for CampSTOC.

WOULD ANYONE MIND ME CHANGING THE DATES FROM 5/10-13 TO 5/17-20 ???????

I think its still early enough to make the change.

[MikeP1300]

I think there's a reason you can't reserve at that time. There's not a demand to reserve a site at that time of year. I bet if a few people showed up wednesday or thursday and claimed a few sites, it would be fine.

[alphawolfman]

Hey guys, the campSTOC trip out to Arkansas sounds interesting. was wondering if myself and a buddy might join you out there? that part of Arkansas is some scenic country. used to live in Missouri but spent quite a bit of time in Arkansas. Let me know if you have space for 2 more riders. (04 and a 05 ST) thanks.

[Mellow]

Hey guys, the campSTOC trip out to Arkansas sounds interesting. was wondering if myself and a buddy might join you out there? that part of Arkansas is some scenic country. used to live in Missouri but spent quite a bit of time in Arkansas. Let me know if you have space for 2 more riders. (04 and a 05 ST) thanks.

You're more than welcome and so are your friends.

[Grumpy]

I didn't know that many people knew about Longpool! It is a fabulous spot to spend a very long weekend. I'll pitch my vote for that but on May 13th I have 2 kids graduating from colleges 300 miles apart - yikes

[pdogger]

I have seen two different places listed on the forum for Campstock 06/ Is it Petit Jean or Greers Ferry?

[Mellow]

I have seen two different places listed on the forum for Campstock 06/ Is it Petit Jean or Greers Ferry?

It's Greers Ferry - That's what is in the first post and the link on the main page should also take you to the first post as well as show the location (OK, well, it does now anyway).

Sorry for the confusion.

[EdsST]

Trying to work a kitchen pass - I'm new to the STOC meetings (this would be my first if I can swing it). It would be my second "bike" vacation in within a couple of months as I'm planning on a week trip to complete a 50cc and a 5 day liesure trip back to FL the first week of March.

Just ordered all my camping gear for that trip - so I'll have the gear just have to convince the wife that I need to use it

[Mellow]

Ed, it would be great if you could make it.

Should be a blast. All these old farts around a campfire...

:tent6:

Hmmm... maybe we shouldn't have a campfire... :eek:

[Mellow]

I just added a poll to the first post so if you're going... vote..

[Diggers1300]

Looking forward to it! SO and I will be there.

[bobcj0]

OK, I am getting conflicting reports as to when it is. I have read 3 different days. One May the 10/13, one 17/20 and one 19th thu the 21. Not a biggie but have friends that need to set up vacation to attend.

[bobcj0]

I will be riding my St but I have two buds that are thinking about going also. Their only problem is that they both ride beemers and are worried they might get strung up in the Ar trees by the ST riders.:eek:

Bob

[bobcj0]

cool, than count me on my :03biker: and two buds on beemers. Heck we might even convert them!:capwin: :capwin: :capwin:


Bob

[bobcj0]

Ok, I now have 2 beemers, 1 HD, and a gozee, Oh and me on the only fast bike the :03biker: See you all there!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just wish the Dealerships would sell the St!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If so they would prob be on one. Heck try and find one in the OZARKS! :beer2:

[bobcj0]

I just wanted to say Thanks All for being so nice! I am new to this sight and only here after a guy by the name of RAY turned me on to it. I have rode for years but never been into groups. Guess what? is so very nice, Thanks for the great time I have just reading posts and how much work all do to keep it running. :bow1: :bow1: :bow1: :bow1: :03biker: Btw thanks Mellow and Rocket CB--- Eric, Whiney, heck I have a heck of a list and only been active for a short time. Damn, keep this up and my Christmas list is going to be maga lone. See all at Campstoc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bob

[wishey1]

I just wanted to say Thanks All for being so nice! I am new to this sight and only here after a guy by the name of RAY turned me on to it. I have rode for years but never been into groups. Guess what? is so very nice, Thanks for the great time I have just reading posts and how much work all do to keep it running. :bow1: :bow1: :bow1: :bow1: :03biker: Btw thanks Mellow and Rocket CB--- Eric, Whiney, heck I have a heck of a list and only been active for a short time. Damn, keep this up and my Christmas list is going to be maga lone. See all at Campstoc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Bob


Great post Bob.....I feel the same way about the site.....
I'm looking foward to meeting you and your friends, and
all the ST'ers that show......should be a beautiful setting.

Remember now.......Hog calls at 6:00 a.m...........;) .....


wish

[bobcj0]

Oh and btw I ment Wishey1 !! heck got to learn how to spell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

[bobcj0]

BTW are we going to do the risers when at campstoc Wish? I will carry the tools just in case! Heck others may need them. lol or at least a torque wrench for the HD that show up:crackup :beer8: :tent6: :tools1:


bob

[Diggers1300]

Hey Bob.

(Glad you like the pix.)
Look forward to meeting you and everyone else at CampSTOC!

[keithq]

Hey Joe,

Will you have some extra room in your ice chest!?

Keith Quigley

[Mellow]

Keith, I always have tons of room in the Blue Ice Box.. :eek:

[STeve1300]

Joe, which sites are you/we planning to reserve? A quick check on "ReserveUSA" shows tons of sites open, with only 6 sites reserved at this time...all in section "C". Greers Ferry right?

[Mellow]

Joe, which sites are you/we planning to reserve? A quick check on "ReserveUSA" shows tons of sites open, with only 6 sites reserved at this time...all in section "C". Greers Ferry right?

Yes, might want to shoot for 'D' as there might not be as much activity. The C section is between a boat ramp and swim area so not as much noise in area D. I've never been there so I can't tell you what the perfect area is.

If those 6 sites are someone from here speak up and we'll take over area C.

I'm not sure when I'm showing up yet, either late on the 17th or morning of the 18th..I'll know more as we get closer.

[Biddyman]

Joe, which sites are you/we planning to reserve? A quick check on "ReserveUSA" shows tons of sites open, with only 6 sites reserved at this time...all in section "C". Greers Ferry right?

Steve,

When are you going down there? I'm plan on getting there late afternoon on the 17th. I'm attaching the route I was looking at taking.

Joe,

Did you find out how many they would allow on a site?

[STeve1300]

Jody, I work tuesday till 10PM, then off till the following Monday. I will leave mid morning Wed the 17th. I can't read your route till I get my new Garmin. I plan to ride straight to camp. I may adjust when I realize how far it is! I plan on calling the Park Info line on this thurs & I'll ask about site restrictions etc.

[Biddyman]

Jody, I work tuesday till 10PM, then off till the following Monday. I will leave mid morning Wed the 17th. I can't read your route till I get my new Garmin. I plan to ride straight to camp. I may adjust when I realize how far it is! I plan on calling the Park Info line on this thurs & I'll ask about site restrictions etc.

My route is about 505 miles from Peoria. You may want to take a lot of Slab to make up time.

[Mellow]

Steve,

When are you going down there? I'm plan on getting there late afternoon on the 17th. I'm attaching the route I was looking at taking.

Joe,

Did you find out how many they would allow on a site?

They're not actually open 'til 4/1, was gonna try to call then.

[STeve1300]

Ok, I'll wait till it gets closer too...Jody, I think I need to buy a "real" GPS, as it looks much closer on a map.....:D

[Biddyman]

Ok, I'll wait till it gets closer too...Jody, I think I need to buy a "real" GPS, as it looks much closer on a map.....:D

I'm taking the plunge. I'm going to get the 2730. Only had the vista c for 6 months. Took a little time, at break:rolleyes: , at work and made round steel disk to connect to a ram ball to mount antenna.

[Tim4255]

I would like to come. My wife doesn't want me to go alone. She can't go because she already has all her holiday time booked for other motorcycle trips. Is there anyone from BC, AB, SK, or Montana that would like to tag along?

Tim :03biker:

[Mellow]

I would like to come. My wife doesn't want me to go alone. She can't go because she already has all her holiday time booked for other motorcycle trips. Is there anyone from BC, AB, SK, or Montana that would like to tag along?

Tim :03biker:

It would be great to see you there Tim, will Canada be thawed out by then?:eek:

[Gunner]

Joe,

Add us to your list for CampStoc.

Steve and Tamara
Lucas, TX

[KentS]

As it stands today, after the inaugral 2006 RAT, I plan to see you all at CampSTOC. Yo, life is good. :) :)

[alphawolfman]

:04biker: :04biker: hey, it sounds like this is all coming together with a good turn-out. I'll be leaving East Tennessee on Tues May 17 around 7am headed west. If anyone from this area wants to meet up and ride together, please E-mail me. (I also plan a little lunch break in Memphis) BBQ RIBS! Yeah baby!
I plan on rolling into the campground around 7pm that same day. See you all there.


Randall Simpson
Maryville, Tn
04 ST1300

[Mellow]

Who's actually reserved a site so far?

If so, let me know and I'll call to see how many are left and if we need more spots or whatever...

Thanks,

[STeve1300]

Who's actually reserved a site so far?

If so, let me know and I'll call to see how many are left and if we need more spots or whatever...

Thanks,

I was waiting till 4/1 to make the reservation. I agree with your previous suggestion that the "D" sites look the best.

[bdechenzio]

Curt,

There's no bears in Arkansas! This is the civilized and over-populated South, we don't allow bears to interfere with our fun. :crackup

Setup your tent and don't worry about non-existent amnimule problems. :cf1:



Gordon

um.... ok, I'm all new here and stuff... but a.... like to see you tell THAT to my wife... and her car! Last year, as she was preparing to leave the house, a black bear with a cub came rolling out of the back of our house (all wooded), she honked the horn (yeah, i know, DUH), so the mother bear got on the hood of the car, and proceeded to give it a shock test (slamming the front of the car up and down. My neighbor heard her honking and screaming, and came over and fired a round in the air, and they left... but it sure didn't make my insurance company happy!!

#2... One of my patrolmen was out about 2am on a rather LARGE 4 lane highway in N. Central, Ar., when he HIT an adult male black bear in his patrol car. Car totaled, bear spend about 8 months in rehab, was the released on parole.

Yeah, there are bears in Arkansas, but no, they don't care about you. Wish I could show yall around when you come up... MAYBE, I'll be home in time for the one in September, but I don't think I'll be back stateside until mid-late September.

Yall prolly know them all, but if you want some more info about roads, let me know... I get prety bored over here!!

Brad

[STeve1300]

... I get prety bored over here!!

Brad

:bow1: Thank You!!! :usflag1:

Be safe...

[JW-1300]

Our bears are much more domesticated than those of Utah. Just invite them over for dinner and you'll not have any problems.

[JW-1300]

Not to worry-our bears are pretty sophisticated, much more so then those of Utah. The worst thing you can do is not inviting them over for dinner.

[Mellow]

I was waiting till 4/1 to make the reservation. I agree with your previous suggestion that the "D" sites look the best.

The D sites do look good, anyone want to split a site?

[Biddyman]

The D sites do look good, anyone want to split a site?

Yes, I would

[Mellow]

Yes, I would

Sounds good...just reserved 'D4'. 17,18,19 & 20 total was $60

[HOOT]

Mellow

First time poster here and looking to go camping. A couple of guys I ride with are planning on coming too. One's a BMW man, the other is a BMW or DUCATI or a GUZZI man, what ever he feels like that day. I've been going to the BMW meets with them, but talked them into a real motorcycle event. My question is can you put two tents per site or three. Or maybe we should put them in a non-Honda site.

Thanks

HOOT

[Mellow]

Mellow

First time poster here and looking to go camping. A couple of guys I ride with are planning on coming too. One's a BMW man, the other is a BMW or DUCATI or a GUZZI man, what ever he feels like that day. I've been going to the BMW meets with them, but talked them into a real motorcycle event. My question is can you put two tents per site or three. Or maybe we should put them in a non-Honda site.

Thanks

HOOT

I think 2 tents per site will be fine... Up to 8 people could be at a site from what I read... but one vehicle which I'm sure they'd accept 2 bikes.

We can put them over by the restrooms.. LOL.. :eek:

[HOOT]

I thought two per site was the norm. I'll call and get a couple reserved, one by the restrooms. Sounds like a blast, I'm looking forward to meeting everyone.

HOOT

[Mellow]

Great.... I'll be the one on the Wing.. : bgw1:

[HOOT]

But it's still a HONDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mellow]

:tent3: ......

[STeve1300]

OK I just reserved site D15, same nights, same $60. If anyone wants to split the site, let me know! (Nyener???) I think I'll arrive the AM of the 2nd day, and may leave Sat late PM.... but booked for the duration regardless.

[alphawolfman]

Hello, would be willing to split the cost of the reserved site if you are still looking for someone. let me know one way or the other. thanks, Randall

[Biddyman]

OK I just reserved site D15, same nights, same $60. If anyone wants to split the site, let me know! (Nyener???) I think I'll arrive the AM of the 2nd day, and may leave Sat late PM.... but booked for the duration regardless.

I gave ya an option Steve.

[STeve1300]

I gave ya an option Steve.

Yep, many thanks, but I'm thinking that will be tight...we'll talk @ Moonshine!!!

[allypurp]

I'm not sure if me and my S.O. are coming or not. If so, I'll be another BMW rider with my S.O. on an ST1300.

I'm sorry I haven't been to the site in awhile, as I certainly would've pushed for meeting at Long Pool Campground, which is on the beautiful Mulberry River, has clean hot showers, flush toilets, etc (though probably not as fancy as the state parks), and reservations can be made for at least some of the sites. It's is north of Russelville and Dover, both with Motels (in case Curt needs one), grocery stores, gas stations, etc. Also within 8-10 miles of some of the best roads in the Ozarks (IMO).

And Curt, there are bears in the Ozarks and Ouachita Mtns. (One night, one was sniffing around our tent and I could see his shadow because of the moonlight. I was scared to death because, like an idiot, I had a bottle of Robitussin cough syrup in the tent. Also, didn't want to move or make a sound to wake up Mike. The next morning, I noticed that a very large wood pile had been knocked down. When I asked the property owner what happened, he said that there was a full grown bear cub that frequently knocked down his wood pile "playing"). Have seen fresh track over our mountain bike tracks in the Ouachita's. The main thing is: don't eat or bring food or anything like gum, toothpaste, etc into your tent or leave it lying around. Campgrounds in some parts of the country have "bear boxes" to store food items, and many have bear proof trash cans. We were recently in Big Bend Nat'l Park, and I said "they've added bear boxes". Actually, they were javelina (similar to large pigs) boxes.

I notice that Devil's Hollow is approx 30 miles east of Clinton, and Clinton is another 30 miles (approx) from the best roads in the area (total 60 miles). But the roads around Clinton are certainly nice. I haven't been to Devil's Hollow, so I don't have an opinion other than what I see on a topo map. The area around Deviol's Hollow looks similar to Clinton as far as the size and steepness of the hills/mtns; the rods are hilly, cury, and scenic, but lack the feeling that you're in bigtger Mtns). It's also closer to Mountain Home and Mountain View, and to "Push Mountain Road", if anyone wants to go there.

I have no doubt that Devil's Hollow is a better option than riding across the Arkansas River Valley, but I still feel that Long Pool is the best option (near towns for groceries, gas, motels), etc. And, you would start your day within 8-10 miles of awesome riding. At least some of the sites at Nat'l Forest Campgrounds can be reserved, and I'd assume that this one gets most of it's use during summer, hunting season, or if the River is up (canoers and kayakers). Otherwise, I bet it's mostly empty. I vote that next year Campstoc should be held there.

I 40 follows the AR. R. for the most part. There are a number of busy towns along I 40, and there are not many bridges that cross the river. Petite Jean is a very beautiful state park with very reasonbly prices for lodge rooms, cabins, and I'd assume caqmping (it's my favorite when compared to Mt Magazine and Mt Nebo, which are all in the same general area south of I 40 AND south of the Arkansas R. Those state parks would be a great stop-over place for somebody riding/driving into the area for Campstoc, and are well worth seeing. But if Campstoc is held there, you can count on spending an hour in the morning and an hour in the evening getting across the valley, just to reach the edge of the Ozark Mtns. In the afternoon, the traffic is very heavy and it can also be very hot in May. A rude awakening after spending a pleasant cool day in the mtns (it can be hot in the Mtn's also, or quite cool).

Last year, it was nice meeting local riders that came by to say hello and meet the rest of us, even though we didn't all get to ride together. Are you going to make it this year Mellow? How about you, Sandman, Orlin, Glen, Curt? What are the exact dates?

Hope to see y'all there.
Allyson

[Mellow]

I Will Be There This Year.....

[nyener]

I've sent STeve an email and check for my share of the site he's reserved. Sorry. I know that everyone wants to be with STeve!:)

:04biker: :tent3:

[sundug]

Are reservations necessary, I`m not sure if I can make it, and I don`t want to make reservations if something prevents me from going. Doug

[STeve1300]

Are reservations necessary, I`m not sure if I can make it, and I don`t want to make reservations if something prevents me from going. Doug

Reservations are through "Reserve America", and it's only $60 to reserve all the CampStoc nights.... I expect park admission may be a few dollars a day additional, but we'll find that out when we get there.

Reservations can be canceled, or changed, or re-applied to any other site in the Nationwide system (for instance all Wisconsin State Parks and Forests are part of the system) There is a small fee to cancel or change dates etc. I think it's $8.


Or just post that you want to split a site with someone, and you're only out 30 bucks no matter what! Two vehicles are definitely allowed.

[Biddyman]

Reservations are through "Reserve America", and it's only $60 to reserve all the CampStoc nights.... I expect park admission may be a few dollars a day additional, but we'll find that out when we get there.

Reservations can be canceled, or changed, or re-applied to any other site in the Nationwide system (for instance all Wisconsin State Parks and Forests are part of the system) There is a small fee to cancel or change dates etc. I think it's $8.


Or just post that you want to split a site with someone, and you're only out 30 bucks no matter what! Two vehicles are definitely allowed.

Was there a military discount?

[STeve1300]

Was there a military discount?

I don't know, but you would have to call their toll free number to find out...I know they have unadvertized discounts for youth groups...I am in charge of the local 4-H camping trip and it was only $1.00 per person per night!

[alphawolfman]

I reserved site D7 for May 16 and 17 (thats all the time I'll have ). The telephone guy at Reserve America said we could put at least 2 tents (possibly 3-4 small tents) on each site. If anyone wants to split the fee for those dates, let me know. Looking forward to meeting all of you.:04biker:

[KentS]

I reserved site D7 for May 16 and 17 (thats all the time I'll have ). ... If anyone wants to split the fee for those dates, let me know. Looking forward to meeting all of you.:04biker:

Would like to split site cost with you for those days. Thanks for the offer.
Kent Saxton

[Mellow]

Routes and group riding.

It looks like we'll have a good group at around 18. Some may drop off and some may decide to come at the last minute.

But, thought I'd just let everyone know my thoughts on group riding - There's no such thing. Everyone rides their own ride and as far as a group staying together, I personally prefer no more than 3 to 5 bikes per group.

We'll get together the night before and see who's riding with who and try to also split up by riding styles. Maybe we all plan on different routes with a common lunch destination each day, or something like that.

I typically like to hit Hwy 341 and also hwy 23 (Pig Trail Scenic byway). But, you can get lost in northern Arkansas and never care because of the twisties everywhere - I'm sure there are locals that know some roads better than I do.

I'm not posting any specific routes here as that would consitute planning and that's way too structured for me. But, if anyone has some suggestions, lets hear them, I can't wait for this trip.

[Diggers1300]

Has anyone booked a site they would like to split? Thought I would check before I reserved another site. If no one has one to split, I'll be looking for someone to split the one I reserve with.

Let me know.

[Putt]

Biddy,
I called just for the heck of it... No military discount..
65 or older or permanently disabled are the only ones
eligible for a discount...

Putt...


Was there a military discount?

[STeve1300]

Routes and group riding.

...thought I'd just let everyone know my thoughts on group riding ... I personally prefer no more than 3 to 5 bikes per group.

We'll get together the night before and ...all plan on...a common lunch destination each day... I can't wait for this trip.

I was talking to Biddy & Nyener about this event at Moonshine...also looking forward to it! I guess I feel that my "ride" is there & back...OK scenic rides to lunch will be awesome... but you guys can go riding all day if you want...I'm going camping!

[alphawolfman]

I"ve reserved D7 fpr May 16 thru May 18th. One other Guy has requested to split the rate. From what I was told, there can be 4 small tents on each site. So, if you need a place to tent, you are welcome to split the site 3 ways with us.

[Mellow]

Looks like it might be a hot one during CampSTOC.

I have a review for the Coleman Tent Fan Here that might be of use to some of you:

http://www.motocampers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90

[Tiny]

i bought one today....Coleman also makes one that is larger but no heavier and also contains an LED light in the center! It also has the magnet plate back as well as a loop to hang it from a tent loop using a "beener".

[Bill Ishmael]

Looks like a good day trip for me from Fort Smith. If you guys see a "copper red" 06 Mazda Miata riding around looking lost, flag me down!

[Mellow]

Looks like a good day trip for me from Fort Smith. If you guys see a "copper red" 06 Mazda Miata riding around looking lost, flag me down!

Okay... but we still won't waive... LOL

[Biddyman]

Looks like a good day trip for me from Fort Smith. If you guys see a "copper red" 06 Mazda Miata riding around looking lost, flag me down!

It'd be nice to see you healed and riding a 06.

[Diggers1300]

Looks like a good day trip for me from Fort Smith. If you guys see a "copper red" 06 Mazda Miata riding around looking lost, flag me down!

Hope you are serious about it. Even though you are not riding now we'd be glad to have you. Heck, it'll give Steve Schwan someone to talk to while we are out riding! :)

See ya there, huh?

[Biddyman]

Hope you are serious about it. Even though you are not riding now we'd be glad to have you. Heck, it'll give Steve Schwan someone to talk to while we are out riding! :)

See ya there, huh?

Do you think we can talk Steve into going grocery shopping while we are out riding?

[Putt]

Grocery shopping, laundry, general clean up, cooking, gathering firewood,
beer runs, cleaning the bugs off the bikes, you know, "keep busy" stuff...


Putt... (Don't thank me Steve, more than happy to help out)

Do you think we can talk Steve into going grocery shopping while we are out riding?

[TOM BOGNAR]

Mellow, Do you have a count on how many are signed up? I'm trying to work in a couple extra vacation days to make it down. Thanks

[Mellow]

Mellow, Do you have a count on how many are signed up? I'm trying to work in a couple extra vacation days to make it down. Thanks

Tom, the very first post has a poll for those that say they are going... at least I hope everyone knows about it... anyway, 20 so far...

[STeve1300]

Do you think we can talk Steve into going grocery shopping while we are out riding?

I'll be fishing.

http://www.inclinehs.org/smb/images/fishing.gif

[Mellow]

I'll be fishing.

http://www.inclinehs.org/smb/images/fishing.gif

That sounds like fun.... do you have compact gear for it?

[STeve1300]

Just an innexpensive collapsable rod & reel kit .... hopefully everyone likes fried catfish.

[Mellow]

I love fishing.. but since selling the boat I haven't really done much... oh yeah, got the bike and that kinda kept me occupied.

I just may take a break Saturday as that's when there will be the most traffic in the area, not that there's really that much... and hit the lake with you... I'll see what cheap rig I can find at walmart...

Of course... I can't promise I won't bow out and hit the twisties instead, but it's nice to have another activity...

[STeve1300]

Of course... I can't promise I won't bow out and hit the twisties instead, but it's nice to have another activity...

...And I just may go off riding... Ain't life great!

[Biddyman]

And I'll be off meeting a female I met in the desert. :D

[TOM BOGNAR]

If all go's well I'll be down on late friday afternoon. Wish I could do the Full Monty but it's better than a sharp stick in the eye.....:biker:

[Putt]

Was she hiding behind a tree??

Putt... :)
Let me tell you about Ahab, the Arab........


And I'll be off meeting a female I met in the desert. :D

[Putt]

You guys are a bad influence... I been looking at tents.... Ozark and Swiss...
Wally world is having a sale.... 4 man Ozark for 40 bucks....

Putt.....

[sundug]

"I been looking at tents.... Ozark and Swiss...
Wally world is having a sale.... 4 man Ozark for 40 bucks...."

Just be aware that those are four very small, very friendly men. I have found that to be comfortable figure real world use as half or less of the rating. My wife and I, plus all of our gear, fills a 6 man tent.
Doug

The communion of man and machine in pursuit of `The Ride' is the holy grail
of motorcycling. The Ride is the dispenser of motorcyclene, that most
elusive and addictive narcotic of the motorcyclist, who is at one with his machine in pursuit of the fulfullment and joy of The Ride."
:04biker:

[Putt]

Yeah,

I would be the only one using it, the wife does not do camping,
so I would not need a "lot" of room....

Putt...

"I been looking at tents.... Ozark and Swiss...
Wally world is having a sale.... 4 man Ozark for 40 bucks...."

Just be aware that those are four very small, very friendly men. I have found that to be comfortable figure real world use as half or less of the rating. My wife and I, plus all of our gear, fills a 6 man tent.
Doug

The communion of man and machine in pursuit of `The Ride' is the holy grail
of motorcycling. The Ride is the dispenser of motorcyclene, that most
elusive and addictive narcotic of the motorcyclist, who is at one with his machine in pursuit of the fulfullment and joy of The Ride."
:04biker:

[Steve Jones]

BTW, anybody coming down I-44, there is massive construction between Bourbon and St. James. You may want to check for conditions before you leave... depending on time of day it can back up quite a bit. There is no short detour... but this is at least an entertaining alternative:

http://stevejones.cc/images/44detour.jpg

[nyener]

Steve,
I'll be coming down Hwy 19 and crossing I44 at Cuba. Do you know if that is still possible?

[Steve Jones]

Steve,
I'll be coming down Hwy 19 and crossing I44 at Cuba. Do you know if that is still possible?
Should be fine.

[Biddyman]

Well, I got the tent out and was sealing the seams. I ended up having to hang it from the ceiling. It seems my cat loves the sealer and was licking the seams after I put stuff on.

[STeve1300]

Well, I got the tent out and was sealing the seams. I ended up having to hang it from the ceiling. It seems my cat loves the sealer and was licking the seams after I put stuff on.

I heard that bears love to snack on cats..... now that you have "scent of kitten" permanently sealed into your tent fabric.... I'll bring a camera!:eek:

[Biddyman]

I heard that bears love to snack on cats..... now that you have "scent of kitten" permanently sealed into your tent fabric.... I'll bring a camera!:eek:

In that case, You won't have to wonder what that smell is under your tent and I'll bring the night vision camera!!!! :D Afterwards, the rest of us can use the cat crap for catfish bait. :p:

[STeve1300]

In that case, You won't have to wonder what that smell is under your tent and I'll bring the night vision camera!!!! :D Afterwards, the rest of us can use the cat crap for catfish bait. :p:

Truce, Truce, I surrender :bow1:

[Mellow]

Just a week away!

Man, I can't wait, I've been working like a dog to get some progress on my current project at work so I'm not stressed while on vacation- yeah, right, once I'm out the door I'm not thinking about work.

Looks like this is gonna be the biggest CampSTOC ever!... Okay, this is only the 2nd but the first was a good one too, I ought to know.. I organized it... then, had to work....:eek:

[KentS]

Hey there,

Busy times. Went on a 2k tour of Southern CA National Parks. Rode another 2k to Texarcana todo the R.A.T. Got new tires and brake shoes on the ST. See ya all there.
the R.A.T. -- Info here: http://www.mctourer.com/rides/2006FFRAT/index.html

After the R.A.T. back to central CA for: http://www.pashnit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4120

[EdsST]

I want to come but can't get out of work :cry:

[Mellow]

I want to come but can't get out of work :cry:

You sound a little sick to me... yep, you're definitely coming down with something... I think it's the Bird Flu...:D

[LDR1]

:)
Dont worry about the bears just have a good time !! In ARKANSAS it's a great state for riden.

LDR1

[Mellow]

:)
Dont worry about the bears just have a good time !! In ARKANSAS it's a great state for riden.

LDR1

I agree, I'd worry more about deer than bear... :D

[LDR1]

Yea, the deer are plentiful the bear are not. I have ridden 40k miles through Ark. all over the North and Western part of the state and I have only seen one bear and I was hunting during deer season a few years back.

[Mellow]

Anyone know if we'll be able to have campfires in this area?

[sundug]

Randall, I sent you an email off list, but no reply. Are you still leaving Wednesday? I am heading out either Wed or Thursday morning. So
far, the weather forecast looks good, cool and clear. It will probably be
cool at night. I have a cell phone and CB, do you have either? I`m wondering
how we can meet if we decide to ride over together. I would be coming onto I
40w from Rt 64 at exit #18. MS Streets and trips says the quickest rt from
Memphis is thru Little Rock, but I want to go a more direct rt on 64 to Bald
Knob, then 167 to87 to 25 to 92 to greers ferry. It`s a little shorter and
simpler than to go to searcy, than west on 36, 124, 225. What do you think?
Do you have a GPS? I have an old Garmin GPS3+.
Doug AKA Sundug

Motorcycle and house-
http://community.webshots.com/user/sundug

[sundug]

My wife and I just figured out that we stayed at Devil`s Fork campground on our ride back from Yellowstone last summer. I don`t know if it`s important to anyone, but this is a dry county, you cannot buy beer for several counties around it either. Doug

He was a wise man who invented beer.
--Plato

I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
--Homer Simpson

Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and
oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital
ingredient in beer.
--Dave Barry

[Mellow]

My wife and I just figured out that we stayed at Devil`s Fork campground on our ride back from Yellowstone last summer. I don`t know if it`s important to anyone, but this is a dry county, you cannot buy beer for several counties around it either. Doug

He was a wise man who invented beer.
--Plato

I would kill everyone in this room for a drop of sweet beer.
--Homer Simpson

Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and
oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital
ingredient in beer.
--Dave Barry

Good point, didn't know that... I'm not a big beer drinker but sometimes a couple are nice... might have to send the Wings in the group out for a beer run... LOL

[Mellow]

Finally, the day has arrived...

I have a ton of work to get near completion before heading out but I'm hoping to leave the Dallas area around 2pm. Probaby will get to the campground after dark.

I wish everyone going a safe trip and even if you aren't going I wish you a safe weekend of riding.

Watch out for those deer in Arkansas and don't be in too much of a hurry, there will be plenty of time for that trying to keep up with me over the next couple days. :eek: :rolleyes:

[Biddyman]

Joe,

It was great meeting you and glad you did make it!!! I hope that bird didn't keep you awake. I'll be back on the 28th from Tampa.

[Mellow]

Just got back from CampSTOC, people came and went throughout the week and there were pretty close to 15-18 bike, including 1 Wing, a couple of BMWs and a Motto Guzzi.

It was nice meeting those that I had previously only known as an avatar and/or screen name.

The weather was great every day and the campgrounds were nice.

Not many bugs, lots of Blue Jays and we even saw an owl last night attack something where we were sitting talking.

I was thinking we'd do the same campground next year, we'll see, might try for another campground further north and west. The rangers at this campground were nice and other than some of the D sites having a big slope, they were great.

Thanks to everyone for coming and hope to see you again next year.

[STeve1300]

Made it home safe... Best part was the friends I made... Joe... I vote for the same park! ( Rode home via Mississippi, Tennesee, & Kentucky... great ride, but not as fun as the route Terry 'Nyener" planned on the way down!)

[Mellow]

Made it home safe... Best part was the friends I made... Joe... I vote for the same park! ( Rode home via Mississippi, Tennesee, & Kentucky... great ride, but not as fun as the route Terry 'Nyener" planned on the way down!)

It was good to meet everyone and put some faces to names. sorry the fishing didn't go as expected. But, the dutch oven was cool and it was a great 1st try.

[Mellow]

Joe,

It was great meeting you and glad you did make it!!! I hope that bird didn't keep you awake. I'll be back on the 28th from Tampa.

Jody, the bird started early evening the last night and stopped before bedtime so it was a restful last night.

[alphawolfman]

Was really great meeting all you guys and gals that I have chatted with in the forum. the weather was great for our riding and camping. hope all of you made it home safely to your family and loved ones. I arrived in Knoxville around 8pm after riding from Rolla, Mo all day (680 miles) bsrely beating out a rain/hail storm. One thing I did was give my wife and all my kids an especially long hug after I got home on Saturday. When something as tragic as Kents accident and death gets as close to you as his did, it will make you stop and do a check on your priorities in life. Didn't know Kent very well, just met him the day before. He was alikable fellow with a love for riding and seeing the country. (which he had done) At our last gas stop, when Joe was asking how we were likingthe route, kent said with a big smile, " I'm having fun". Enough said. RIP Kent.