2008-08-02 - NorthTX TechSTOC

[UNTMatt]

Update: NorthTX TechSTOC
Where: My house
When: August 2, 2008
Time: 9:30am till we're done!



I'll be doing valves. HotCams Shim Kit is in my hands.

I'll have the Carbtune for anyone that wants to sync their t-bodies (make sure you arrive with only one bar on your gas gauge).

I'll have enough tools to work on maybe two bikes at once so you might want to bring your own tools.

I have a cordless drill, step bit, and standard bits.

I have moly paste, axle grease, silicone grease, silicone spray, anti-seize, dielectric grease, white grease in spray can if needed.

I have a couple of torque wrenches (3/8" and 1/2")

I have a vaccum bleeder tool for brakes

I have various wire crimpers and pliers if anyone is doing electrical work

There is a Wal-Mart, various auto parts stores, hardware stores (Ace, Home Depot), Radio Shack, and a couple of m/c shops within 10 minutes of our house if needed

Mellow will have available tire changing tools but only if he is notified in advance if they are needed. No point in bringing them over if no one wants to do tires.

I think Mellow has a lift we can borrow but otherwise the bikes will be sitting on the ground. If you need me too, I can either pick it up the week before or I can meet you somewhere.

If there is anything else that we need, please PM me and let me know. If people are wanting to do brakes, it's usually preferable to pick up the brake fluid 24 hours in advance so that the fluid has settled before use. If anyone wants, I can pick up the brake fluid if I know how many need it and you can reimburse me on Saturday. DFW Honda is about 30 minutes out if necessary so any parts you might need from the dealership, you might want to have on hand.

If a bike gets torn down and isn't able to run by the end of the day, we can house over night but would like to avoid that if possible.

I'm thinking Costco's pizza for lunch? I can get various soda for lunch, we'll have ice tea (both sweet and unsweet), and water. No adult beverages for good reason.

I would suggest if you're planning on attending and working on your bike to bring your own nitrile gloves and/or work gloves. I have Fast Orange hand cleaner available as well.

PM me for address/directions/map if you need it.

[Mellow]

I may get a portable no mar tire changer by then so, the timing is looking good so tires could be another possibility.

[ChucksKLRST]

I'll try to come down for the day and supervise:shout1:

[UNTMatt]

Tires, valves, brains! Cool!

[Tankereng]

Don't have any Mx on the to do list but I'll come for moral support for sure!

[clmixon]

:) I have a thermostat to change and I need to do a starter valve synch. Besides, it's only 6 hours each way...In 102 degree heat:)

Chris:06biker:

[sherob]

Ahem... is hurricane season over yet? :crackup :crackup :crackup

[guardian_dfw]

Don't have any Mx on the to do list but I'll come for moral support for sure!

+1 on that. I may have an audiovox cruise to install by then, if I haven't already done it.

[okckeith]

I would like to ride down. Not sure of my schedule. I have 14,000 miles mine. Would like observe the valve job. Meet some of the Tx folks.

[UNTMatt]

A/c in a garage? Do you think I'm rich? :p:

I have Texas garage a/c...a garden hose and a ocillating fan. Once I get a feel for how many want to come and what all everyone wants to do, I'll get details ironed out.

If we need a larger space, I'll make some calls.

[sandy]

Count me in too.........
What's for lunch :)

[UNTMatt]

I'm thinking I'll pick up some Costco pizza but that could change. :) Any other idea's are welcome...I thought about having it catered but that would be beyond our budget depending on how many show up.

I had a freaky brain storm and thought, what if we got one or two or three video camera's going along with some still shots. Video tech instead of just a pdf file? Dumb idea?

Depending on numbers, any lifts and tools people are willing to bring over would be helpful. I do not have a lift and only have enough tools to work on one bike at a time..well, possibly two if you include the on board tool kit (built around the list floating around the forums).

I do have a CarbTune II Pro and a MityVac for use. If there is anyone wanting to do brakes/clutch I can pick up the brake fluid (or you can drop it off) in advance so that it will have had 24 hours to settle prior to use.

I thought about renting a swamp cooler for the day as well. I've not hosted one of these tech days so any ideas or help is appreciated.

[UNTMatt]

What all services is everyone interested in? I'd like to have as much prepared in advance as possible and need to have a way to take used fluids to the recycle center.

I'm working on trying to precure a larger garage to work in and will post up when I've got more details. Also, anyone that has a bike lift we could probably use it for the day, if you don't mind. It won't be the end of the world, w/o it, though.

[Tankereng]

I'm thinking I'll pick up some Costco pizza but that could change. :) Any other idea's are welcome...I thought about having it catered but that would be beyond our budget depending on how many show up.

I had a freaky brain storm and thought, what if we got one or two or three video camera's going along with some still shots. Video tech instead of just a pdf file? Dumb idea?

Depending on numbers, any lifts and tools people are willing to bring over would be helpful. I do not have a lift and only have enough tools to work on one bike at a time..well, possibly two if you include the on board tool kit (built around the list floating around the forums).

I do have a CarbTune II Pro and a MityVac for use. If there is anyone wanting to do brakes/clutch I can pick up the brake fluid (or you can drop it off) in advance so that it will have had 24 hours to settle prior to use.

I thought about renting a swamp cooler for the day as well. I've not hosted one of these tech days so any ideas or help is appreciated.

I have a video camera and the capability to convert to MPG / AVI format so I could video mx work and then make available on the forum...

[UNTMatt]

I have a video camera and the capability to convert to MPG / AVI format so I could video mx work and then make available on the forum...

I think that would be cool and would be appreciated if you don't mind.

[Mellow]

Okay, should have the No-Mar tire changer next week.

Here are some things I can contribute to the event:
- Tire Changes
- 3 work stools on rollers w/tool tray underneath
- 1 bike lift - used for the wing but should be usable for the ST

If you are getting tires done at the event, this would be a good time to get some 90 degree aluminum valve stems as well.

I'll be a newbie at this so not sure how many tires I'll be able to change so some advanced notice would be nice.

Either way, if you live near me in carrollton - marsh ln/keller springs area - you can always stop by and we'll get your tires changed.

I've always had the place that does my tires keep the old ones and they charge me a disposal fee. I'll need to find out what I can do with old tires and if there some cost associated with that.

[UNTMatt]

I've always had the place that does my tires keep the old ones and they charge me a disposal fee. I'll need to find out what I can do with old tires and if there some cost associated with that.

Fort Worth will take tires at their drop off sites if you live in Fort Worth, for free (well, we pay for it out of our taxes). Might want to take a look at your cities website and see what all they offer.

If anyone else has bike lifts they can loan, it would come in handy.

[Mellow]

Fort Worth will take tires at their drop off sites if you live in Fort Worth, for free (well, we pay for it out of our taxes). Might want to take a look at your cities website and see what all they offer.

If anyone else has bike lifts they can loan, it would come in handy.

I'll check, then I can just take the used tires.

What are the lifts needed for? I typically put some weights in a box on the back seat and that works to get the front off the ground for tire removal.

Are you looking just to lift the bike so it's easier to get to stuff?

[UNTMatt]

I'll check, then I can just take the used tires.

What are the lifts needed for? I typically put some weights in a box on the back seat and that works to get the front off the ground for tire removal.

Are you looking just to lift the bike so it's easier to get to stuff?

Yeah, that was the idea.

I'll post more as soon as I get more information. I'm supposed to swap out my front wheel bearings at his place tomorrow so I should know more soon.

[UNTMatt]

Update:

As of right now, this will be held in my garage. The spot I was trying to precure for the tech day just isn't going to work out. If I can locate a larger space, I'll post up the new location.

If someone has a ez-up we could probably use it if they don't mind loaning it to us for that Saturday.

[UNTMatt]

I just ordered the Hot Cams shim kit so that will be taken care of.

Anyone wanting to participate that needs directions can either PM me or show up to the Blue Hangar breakfast meet. We will head this direction after breakfast.

I will be in a cage that morning as I will break down the ST on Friday in prep for the valve check/adjustment.

Joe, not sure if I should start another thread in the Tech events section or if this should be moved there? What do you think?

[Mellow]

I moved it to the tech section w/perm redirect from the Texas section so it's sorta in both places.

[Mellow]

Oh, it probably wouldn't hurt to keep the first post updated w/actual maint being performed.

On that note, Will anyone need tires changed, if so I'll bring the no-mar.

[UNTMatt]

Oh, it probably wouldn't hurt to keep the first post updated w/actual maint being performed.

On that note, Will anyone need tires changed, if so I'll bring the no-mar.

I updated the main page, thanks!

[clmixon]

I am going to be backing out...Al and Liz want to go to TN. that week and I just can't pass up a trip!

Hope everyone has a great time and hopefully someday I'll get that thermostat changed out. (maybe 2015?)

chris :06biker:

[Mellow]

Just posting a reminder.. .don't forget if you'd like some things done, speak up...

No one said they need tires changed so if that's the case I won't bring the truck/changer.

Please post if there's something you'd like installed or worked on. It will be good just to see Matt go through a valve check.

[Tankereng]

Won't be able to make it...Riding to Omaha via OKC on the 7th.....

[guardian_dfw]

I am planning on attending. Need to install my Stebel horn and/or sit around and watch Matt work on his bike.:D

[UNTMatt]

I'll need someone to take some good notes...maybe a couple of people and a couple of photographers to stay on top of things. After we're done, I'll collect the notes and photo's to put together a comprehensive write up on the valve adjustment.

I will have the bike partially torn down so that it won't take so long to get to the meat and bones of the matter. There are a couple of things I want to look at anyway prior to the tech day.

[Simmons1]

I may make an appearance to spectate for a little while.

Please PM with your address.

[okckeith]

I would like to watch the valve job. I'll ride down from Okc sat. Will PM you.

[Towjam]

I'll meet at the Blue Hanger for breakfast and follow you back from there. I don't have anything I need worked on currently but I would certainly benefit from watching "the experts".

Be gentle. I'm no wrencher - my toolkit is a cellphone and MasterCard but I'd like to at least get comfortable taking off plastic and doing some basic maintenance stuff.

[finalchecker]

I really wanted to make this, but my vacation plans were already set. I will be in Grand lake Colorado. Take a lot of pictures.:)

[UNTMatt]

Sorry but I need a last minute decision here on the food:


I can either pick up some pizza's from Costco, leave you all working on my bike while I go prep them for you animals.


or


We can head up to Shady Oak BBQ and have lunch (pay your own). If we do this, I'll pick up some pie's and ice cream (not my own homemade...sorry) and we can have a pie run in the garage.



I will have some sweet tea, some regular tea, water, and a variety of soft drinks available. It will be hot, the weather guesser is putting us at 101°F for Saturday.

[Mellow]

Matt, the actual valve check probably isn't going to take all that long. Since everyone would have just eaten breakfast.. I would think we'll be done by around lunchtime and can hit the BBQ.

You know this crowd likes BBQ. From what I've heard.

[Towjam]

I'm good either way - although depending on what time we break for lunch, I may not be able to go - I've got an early afternoon "honey do" that I can't put off any longer. :banghead:

[UNTMatt]

Matt, the actual valve check probably isn't going to take all that long. Since everyone would have just eaten breakfast.. I would think we'll be done by around lunchtime and can hit the BBQ.

You know this crowd likes BBQ. From what I've heard.

That's what I'm hoping and that sounds like a plan. I'm good for Shady Oaks...last time I was there, the BBQ was pretty good.

[Mellow]

Yahoo Map to Shady Oaks BBQ

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ard=1&q1=6364+Sandshell+Dr.%2C+Fort+Worth%2C+TX+76137-2900&ds=n&name=&desc=&lat=32.857985&lon=-97.311759&mlt=32.857985&mln=-97.311759&zoomin=yes&BFKey=&mag=2#mvt=m&lat=32.856471&lon=-97.313647&mag=2&zoom=15&q1=6364%20Sandshell%20Dr.%2C%20Fort%20Worth%2C%20T X%2076137-2900&gid1=18898052

[Simmons1]

Hi Matt:

I think I am going to sleep in Saturday and just swing by your house for a bit to socialize.

According to Google Maps your house is only a 2.4 miles from mine. I'll head over to your house around 9:30ish.

[UNTMatt]

Yahoo Map to Shady Oaks BBQ

http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ard=1&q1=6364+Sandshell+Dr.%2C+Fort+Worth%2C+TX+76137-2900&ds=n&name=&desc=&lat=32.857985&lon=-97.311759&mlt=32.857985&mln=-97.311759&zoomin=yes&BFKey=&mag=2#mvt=m&lat=32.856471&lon=-97.313647&mag=2&zoom=15&q1=6364%20Sandshell%20Dr.%2C%20Fort%20Worth%2C%20T X%2076137-2900&gid1=18898052

It's only a couple of miles from our house. :) I don't get to eat there very often 'cause Dee doesn't care for BBQ. :(

Hi Matt:

I think I am going to sleep in Saturday and just swing by your house for a bit to socialize.

According to Google Maps your house is only a 2.4 miles from mine. I'll head over to your house around 9:30ish.

That sounds like a plan! Look forward to having you here.

[ChucksKLRST]

It's only a couple of miles from our house. :) I don't get to eat there very often 'cause Dee doesn't care for BBQ. :(



That sounds like a plan! Look forward to having you here.

NightRDR, Is there a place nearby to stay over night. Not sure I want to ride back to WF in the afternoon heat.

[Tourin']

Chuck, after you get input about local lodging options (of which there are some), some of us may have options for you as well. I'll check with relatives nearby, as that may be an option too? Mark.:07biker::)

[ChucksKLRST]

Chuck, after you get input about local lodging options (of which there are some), some of us may have options for you as well. I'll check with relatives nearby, as that may be an option too? Mark.:07biker::)

Thanks I appreciate it. See you there.

[UNTMatt]

Sorry, I almost forgot to respond.

There are several hotels within a few miles and the first one I listed is the closest one:

Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hotels+near+North+Tarrant+Parkway&mrt=yp&sll=32.861709,-97.23484&sspn=0.174761,0.362549&ie=UTF8&ll=32.844837,-97.260761&spn=0.087397,0.181274&t=h&z=13)

Residence Inn by Marriott
5801 Sandshell Dr
Fort Worth, TX 76137
(817) 439-1300

Courtyard by Marriott at Fossil Creek
3751 NE Loop 820
Fort Worth, TX 76137
(817) 847-0044‎

Microtel Inn and Suites
3740 Tanacross Drive
Fort Worth, TX 76137
(800) 771-7171

We have one guest queen size bed, one queen size air mattress, and one full size air mattress available.

Once the bikes are parked for the evening/afternoon, adult beverages may be consumed to your hearts desire. Heck, bust out the blender and vitamin-T for all I care. Just no operation of any m/c's after adult beverages. Not at my house.

[UNTMatt]

I have oodles and oodles amounts of water and oodles of soda ready to go. A gigantasouraus 5 quart bucket of vanilla ice cream and a few pies (budget box mart specials so don't blame me if they aren't the best) are waiting as well.

I'm not sure how many are coming so I'll call Shady Oaks when I have a better idea on Saturday.

[ChucksKLRST]

Sorry, I almost forgot to respond.


Just no operation of any m/c's after adult beverages. Not at my house.



Agree 100+%

[ChucksKLRST]

I have oodles and oodles amounts of water and oodles of soda ready to go. A gigantasouraus 5 quart bucket of vanilla ice cream and a few pies (budget box mart specials so don't blame me if they aren't the best) are waiting as well.

I'm not sure how many are coming so I'll call Shady Oaks when I have a better idea on Saturday.

I plan on bringing my service manual and my Torque wrenches. Is there anything else I can bring in the way of tools etc.

[UNTMatt]

I plan on bringing my service manual and my Torque wrenches. Is there anything else I can bring in the way of tools etc.

I have a SM, a 1/2" and 3/8" bar type torque wrenches along with the various other tools. SAE feeler guages in the range needed. I'll pick up a micrometer tomorrow and I'm going to try to make the stopper tool but we may just end up using a small screwdriver.

If you want to bring a few tools as another set just in case, that would be fine since extra's never hurt. I have a small 8 gal compressor as well.

If anyone needs to do oil changes, brake/clutch fluid, whatever, we should be good to go. I'll have all the tools laid out on a table ready to go.

What we just need is to get lots of photographs and notes taken down (I'm bad w/notes) so Dee and I can do a how-to write up afterwards.

[Mellow]

I have a SM, a 1/2" and 3/8" bar type torque wrenches along with the various other tools. SAE feeler guages in the range needed. I'll pick up a micrometer tomorrow and I'm going to try to make the stopper tool but we may just end up using a small screwdriver.

If you want to bring a few tools as another set just in case, that would be fine since extra's never hurt. I have a small 8 gal compressor as well.

If anyone needs to do oil changes, brake/clutch fluid, whatever, we should be good to go. I'll have all the tools laid out on a table ready to go.

What we just need is to get lots of photographs and notes taken down (I'm bad w/notes) so Dee and I can do a how-to write up afterwards.

Straight from Byron's Album:
http://www.st-owners.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=56&pictureid=907

[UNTMatt]

Straight from Byron's Album

Yup and it's in the SM but in metric only. I asked the dealer yesterday about it and they told me that it is a fabricate your own part deal. Their guys had to make it, Honda does not offer it as a tool.

[guardian_dfw]

Matt,

I can't make it on Saturday :(. Wifey has other plans. Wanted to sugest a little place for lunch. I know you guys had talked about BBQ but there is an awesome restruant in Justin called the Spur. Right next door to the Justin Boot Factory. Has a great lunch menu with homestyle veggies and great food.

They also have about 20 different pies made there daily. Maybe not saturday but most definelty worth the trip. Only downside is that it's too close. Wife doesn't undertand how it takes over an hour to drive 15 miles.:confused:

[UNTMatt]

Matt,

I can't make it on Saturday :(.


No problem. Sorry you won't be able to make it but there will be more.

[guardian_dfw]

No problem. Sorry you won't be able to make it but there will be more.

I did get a kitchen pass for breakfast.:D
Seems a garage sale is in order....maybe she'll let ge get that new rifle I want. Probably not since I just got the ST less than 3 months ago. Doesn't hurt to try. See ya Saturday.:eat1:

[Tourin']

We'll miss ya Michael, but maybe eat something in your honor? Also, right up the road from the Justin thingy, is a popular place in Ponder. Some local rides end up there too. If I figure out where to post, I'll report on the "Long Way Down".:)

[guardian_dfw]

We'll miss ya Michael, but maybe eat something in your honor? Also, right up the road from the Justin thingy, is a popular place in Ponder. Some local rides end up there too. If I figure out where to post, I'll report on the "Long Way Down".:)

Mark, I will be at breakfast, just not at the techstoc thingy at Matt's house. We are meeting at the Chevron (2499 & 1171) around 7:15ish. Hey stop by the house afterwords and you can buy some of my junk, I mean gently used items.:D

[UNTMatt]

Seems a garage sale is in order.

Dee keeps trying to get us to have one of those. I refuse. BTDT and no way will I do it again. Goodwill is a great place to take stuff you don't want/need that is still in working order.

The trash bin is the place for the rest of it.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled Tech/ValveSTOC.

[Tourin']

I need to have a sale...but I seem to go to all the estate sales and get more STuff for my collecting habits. If I build a place for the Bike....it will be called a place for the....Bikes!

Get off duty that morning, so I'll get over there when I get over there.:07biker:

[Towjam]

Mark, I will be at breakfast, just not at the techstoc thingy at Matt's house. We are meeting at the Chevron (2499 & 1171) around 7:15ish. Hey stop by the house afterwords and you can buy some of my junk, I mean gently used items.:D

Michael,

Looks like I'm not going to be able to make breakfast or the TechSTOC. I just got a work-related steaming pile put on my plate that's going to have me in the office Saturday (and possibly even Sunday). :mad:

[okckeith]

Ok I plan on meeting you guys for breakfast. plan on getting on the road at 5:15. Should be there by 8:30 at the latest. If not I will see you at Matt's.

[Mellow]

A BIG thanks to Matt for hosting this.

Boy was it warm out. I hope the OK guys made it home without evaporating.

It was cool to see a valve check and minor adjustment even though basic metric to inch to metric conversion was giving us a fit.. LOL

Again, thanks to Matt for letting us sit in his garage and watch everything, as well as providing lots of water and soda.

I took a ton of pics so hopefully they will make it into the write up.

[okckeith]

Thank you Matt and the rest of you guys. I was glad to observe. I'm not afraid to tackle my own now.
It was a brutal ride home. We saw 108 on the temp gauge once. Never under 104. We got stuck in stop and go constuction about 40 miles from home. 3miles in 45 minutes. Thought I was going to pass out when I got home. But we made it.
Thanks again.
Keith

[stellarpod]

You guys are great!

As Okckeith stated, it was a brutally hot ride home. But, with the aid of a couple of Camelbacks we made it without too much difficulty.

Sorry that we bugged out early, but we felt like we needed to get moving with the mercury climbing. NightRDR: Thanks for the refreshments too. I owe you. The ice especially came in handy on the trip back! :D

I appreciated meeting all of you and look forward to the fellowship at the Blue Hanger again someday.

stellarpod

[Towjam]

NightRDR et al,

I am major bummed about having to miss out on this. I spend most of Friday evening and all day Saturday sitting in a cubicle and monitoring disaster recovery efforts on a clustered server in Germany. Not even half as exciting as it sounds. (And my "vacation" was supposed to have started Friday.)

/whine

Sounds like a great time - educational and entertaining. I'll be looking forward to seeing pics/vids from the event. I have GOT to get comfortable with exploring beyond the plastic of my ST.

[UNTMatt]

You guys were welcome to crash at the pad until morning if you wanted to avoid the heat. Chuck did and took off early in the morning.

In this heat, invest in Miracool vests. You can get them for about $35/after shipping at Tuff Rhino (http://www.tuffrhino.com/Cooling_Vests_s/47.htm).

I want to thank everyone that came for showing up. Thanks to Joe for taking photo's and to Chuck for overseeing the procedure. It was hot but still went pretty good.

I'm going to try to get together a Fall and Spring tech event so everyone that wants to be involved can be. It will also give us a chance to start putting together some serious tech doc's for the site.

[ChucksKLRST]

I Want to say that is was great see every one again at the Blue Hanger and thanks to Matt for allowing me to get a refresher course on how to change shims. It had been a while since I did that on my bike. Thanks to Matt for giving me a place to stay over as I would not have enjoyed the ride back in 107 degree heat. You OKie guys are either crazy or insane to ride 150 miles in that kind of heat:D. Hope everybody learned something. By the way Matt had to change out two shims and making the conversion from inches to metric was a bit confusing. I really think it was just the heat not allowing us to think quickly. Luckily the shims were from the same cylinder and both exhaust valves on the left side. We only had to remove one cam.:bow1:
One of the items to do during Boring STOC will be to use my bike, on the lift, to teach anybody how to perform a maint function. My bike will need most everything done to it by them. So make sure you come to BoringSTOC
and we will show you what to do. The weather should be cooler by then.

Again thank you Matt for your hospitality, give my thank yous to your wife also. And what type of dogs are yours, again? Hope your garage door did not stay open too long after I left. I was a bit concerned about it. I got home right at 7am in time for Sue to make me breakfast. :)

[UNTMatt]

Again thank you Matt for your hospitality, give my thank yous to your wife also. And what type of dogs are yours, again? Hope your garage door did not stay open too long after I left. I was a bit concerned about it. I got home right at 7am in time for Sue to make me breakfast. :)

Australian Cattle Dogs, common name is heelers. Skyy is the blue heeler and Ginger is the red heeler. They own the house...they just don't cook, clean, or make payments...I want their job.

Garage was fine, hope you slept alright.

[okckeith]

I would enjoy a fall or spring tech event. I'm sure some of the other oklahoma guys will come also. Hey Chuck you were the smart one to not ride in that heat.
Look foward to seeing you guys again.