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crp5
08-01-2005, 06:30 PM
Purchased a set of MCL driver peg extenders last week and installed Saturday before taking off on a 500 mile jaunt. I didn't test them before I left other that sitting on the center stand and noting the improved leg ergos. That was a mistake.... 30 miles into the trip I discovered that low speed turns frequently "touch down" Freaked me out for the balance of the trip and was over conscious of low speed turns. Just got home 45 minutes ago and the first thing I did was take them off.

Any one else have a similar experience?

Kempo-STer
08-01-2005, 08:16 PM
Thats been pretty much the experience of others on the board about peg extenders..too low and freaked people out...

Do a search on peg extenders and you should be able to get others views..
Sorry you didn't see it before you actually experienced it yourself..
The MCL risers on the other hand are on my short list of soon purchases..

Doobage
08-01-2005, 08:25 PM
I bought an '03 ST1300 with peg extenders (brand?) already installed. The guy said there was no way to scrape them. In looking at it, I thought he must be right. But I have touched them on the ground twice in about 1500 miles. I'm a little self conscious about it, but since they fold up, I simply lift my foot and follow the turn through. I've made a few shallow turns because of it, but I think I'm adapting and figuring out where my point of scrapage exists.

I've been wanting to try it without them just to see if I notice a difference in comfort. Or at least sit on another non-modified ST just to see what it feels like. I suspect it's mildly more comfortable with the extenders. One other benefit (maybe?) is that it puts your feet a little further out from the engine block. So far that has been the only way I have been able to feel heat from the engine...put my leg right up against the engine. With the peg extenders, about the only way to do that is to put your toe on the peg and lean your heel in.

crazykz
08-01-2005, 09:06 PM
This is the second time I've heard of this happening. I just think they are too dangerous.

Curt

crp5
08-01-2005, 09:26 PM
I use them any time I am on the interstate or out here in West Texas we have some long, flat sections that they were made for. I use hitch pins in place of the cottor pins and carry a 6mm hex and a 12mm wrench. I can swap the pegs out in minutes in the gas station parking lot.

Paul

Paul - what is a hitch pin? Can you send a picture and where do you find them? I thoroughly enjoyed the riding position on the straight road, but the twisties made me a bot nervous. I only scrapped in low speed turns, but rubbed my outer boot sole on one of them and all I could think about was my foot catching and trying to bend under the peg. :eek: OUCH!!! Needless to say I was very skidish after that one. Thanks, Chris

crp5
08-01-2005, 09:28 PM
I bought an '03 ST1300 with peg extenders (brand?) already installed. The guy said there was no way to scrape them. In looking at it, I thought he must be right. But I have touched them on the ground twice in about 1500 miles. I'm a little self conscious about it, but since they fold up, I simply lift my foot and follow the turn through. I've made a few shallow turns because of it, but I think I'm adapting and figuring out where my point of scrapage exists.

I've been wanting to try it without them just to see if I notice a difference in comfort. Or at least sit on another non-modified ST just to see what it feels like. I suspect it's mildly more comfortable with the extenders. One other benefit (maybe?) is that it puts your feet a little further out from the engine block. So far that has been the only way I have been able to feel heat from the engine...put my leg right up against the engine. With the peg extenders, about the only way to do that is to put your toe on the peg and lean your heel in.

Changing them out is fairly quick process. You can do it in 10 minutes or less. Give it a try and see what you think.

Xhippee
08-01-2005, 10:00 PM
I installed the MCL lowering pegs, along with the Kurykin Wing Footboards. I also put on MCL's handlebar risers, and I now own the most perfect ride out there. No scraping, and a totally comfortable ride. I am 6'1" and yesterday at the Ocala rally, I bought a gel seat. This gives me about 1/2" height. All three work flawlessly, and I rode 600 miles in a day and was right as rain (which I hit for 6 1/2 hours.
But MCL's stuff is real good, with excellent installation instructions. I would also like to know what those pins are all about.

-Jeff

crp5
08-02-2005, 07:28 AM
Available at Ace, Lowe's, Home Depot, etc.
http://www.acehardware.com/product/...rentPage=family

Ahhh...very smart. Thanks for the great tip.

gothicbeast
08-02-2005, 09:16 PM
I guess I am on the opposite side of the spectrum.

Since I am 6'6" tall (35" inseam), I don't have a ground reach issue with my beaST. As such what I wanted was more leg room, beyond sitting at the top seating position.

I had Corbin (I know everyone hates Corbin) make me a seat that was 1" taller than their stock height. It took a while to get the brackets right (Corbin admitted I was the first person to try the seat in the top position) and a quick trip back to Corbin to reshape the front of the seat and the back of the seat to let me sit farther back. In the end, the seat works great and I got my extra legroom and I don't have any peg dragging issues.

Only downside is I can't see the turn signal indicators anymore as they are completely blocked by the dash.

gene
08-02-2005, 10:23 PM
XHIPPEE what are the wing floor boards you mentioned??? Do you have a picture to post? THANKS

Actionfigurejoe
08-03-2005, 08:43 AM
I really like the lower pegs. I've scrapped a couple of times but nothing that was overly alaming. I wouldn't ride the bike without them. Combination lower pegs and handlebar risers transformed the bike. The ergos were extremely painful without the change.

wjbertrand
08-03-2005, 11:35 AM
Purchased a set of MCL driver peg extenders last week and installed Saturday before taking off on a 500 mile jaunt. I didn't test them before I left other that sitting on the center stand and noting the improved leg ergos. That was a mistake.... 30 miles into the trip I discovered that low speed turns frequently "touch down" Freaked me out for the balance of the trip and was over conscious of low speed turns. Just got home 45 minutes ago and the first thing I did was take them off.

Any one else have a similar experience?

Not surprising. It's already ridiculously easy to scrape the OEM pegs. I keep jacking up the rear preload looking for more clearance. The ST13 seems to scratch earlier than the ST11.

NormanPCN
08-03-2005, 02:11 PM
It's already ridiculously easy to scrape the OEM pegs. I keep jacking up the rear preload looking for more clearance.

I am at the second hash mark from full preload for just me (215lbs). About 14 clicks off max. Each has mark seems to be about 7 clicks. For touring I add about 7 more clicks or up to the last hash mark. A stiffer spring is a better solution than preload.

wjbertrand
08-03-2005, 06:06 PM
I am at the second hash mark from full preload for just me (215lbs). About 14 clicks off max. Each has mark seems to be about 7 clicks. For touring I add about 7 more clicks or up to the last hash mark. A stiffer spring is a better solution than preload.

I'll have to look and see where I'm at pre-load wise. I'm about 20lb lighter than you at 195 though. Thanks for the reference Norman.

motorcyclelarry
08-04-2005, 10:54 AM
Hi Guys, OK here is the real deal on the peg extenders. Can you extend your pegs on a ST1300 and not scrape the ground at the same time. Remember the best of both worlds rarely exists. Do I scrape my pegs on my ST-1300? Yes but only when I want to. I know how low I can go before they scrape. I just returned on a trip to Alaska and put in just under 5000 miles. We drove on every conceivable road surface and on the last day I drove 1050 miles in 16 hours with 13 ˝ of them moving. I am 54 years, 6’4” tall (225#) and have a 34” inseam. I will tell you without those peg lowers and my new Sergeant seat, no way I could have done that run. I did not use hwy bars and dead honest truth my legs NEVER got sore, my butt was pretty fidgety but my knees were fine.

I tell you this just for general information. You want to be able to go great distances and not have a tired sore body. Get the body in shape before you go. If you ski you know what I mean. I do a form of deep stretching exercises 3 times a week and prior to that trip I worked on my shoulder and upper back to stretch the muscles and strengthen them for 2 months. I used to fish for 300 pound tuna and I would work my arms 3 months before a long range trip. I knew a guy that used to reel a 100 pound block of concrete up his ramped driveway to get in shape for the tuna. It works!!

As far as the pegs being dangerous. I would not sell them if I thought they were. Wonder why MCL does not sell hwy bars? Our pegs will fold up just as they will without the brackets if you touch down on a turn. The lowers do nothing to prohibit this.
If you ride and touch the pegs without the lowers maybe the lowers are not for you but if leg and knee cramps are an issue and you are like me a old fart that does not corner in excess of 60 degrees then maybe they can help your ride. One other thing I NEVER tell anyone that they will not touch in a turn. You can look at my peg nuts to prove me wrong if I did.

Larry
www.motorcyclelarry.com

crp5
08-04-2005, 01:18 PM
Larry,
The peg extenders greatly improve the comfort of the bike. Now that I know about the hitch pins I plan to keep the extenders in my saddle bag with a second set of stock pegs already attached. This way I can change them in a flash and have the best of both world.
The product itself does exactly as your site lists. They provide greater comfort to those of us with longer inseams (34" also) and are VERY well made. I didn't mean to infer anything negative about your product other than the scrapping surprised me. I apologize if my earlier comments didn't come out right.

motorcyclelarry
08-05-2005, 09:38 AM
Thanks for the reply, very nice reply. I actually did find a solution to the sore legs, stiff neck, wheelie prone throttle and *****ie passengers (I’m uncomfortable) I bought a brand new one 3 months ago in the Cherry Red color, a brand new GL-1800. It doesn’t get ridden much except when she says lets go riding.

Larry

Marshal_Mercer
08-05-2005, 03:21 PM
I use my MCL lowers as foolishness inhibitors as well as comfort enhancers. Whe I hear/feel the peg nuts grinding away, I know its time to back off the corners speed. Lord knows what I would be doing now if I had continued to grind the stock-position peg nuts. Enjoying the wonders of slings and traction, perhaps.

With regard to safety: as Larry stated, the pegs fold as they did before lowering. Just lift your boot a bit to take the weight off the peg.

Marshal