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Bluecrab
09-12-2005, 07:14 AM
I am adding a shelf on top of the gages to put a radar detector and a GPS, how to I get power to it. Is their away to get into the back of the gage panel. Is their a wire harness to tap into? Also, different area of my electrical ignorance, when you remove your passenger seat, their is an unused wire harness plug, I think is has 4 wires. What is it for?

Thanks for help
Bob

Blrfl
09-12-2005, 07:34 AM
I am adding a shelf on top of the gages to put a radar detector and a GPS, how to I get power to it. Is their away to get into the back of the gage panel. Is their a wire harness to tap into?

There are a couple of slots near the upper corners of the dash panel (facing the rider) that you could get a wire through. From there, it's easy to get to pretty much anywhere else on the bike. The nearest source is the connector for the quad harness on the left side.
(Corrected from "right." Dunno what I was thinking. --MF)

Also, different area of my electrical ignorance, when you remove your passenger seat, their is an unused wire harness plug, I think is has 4 wires. What is it for?

That's a diagnostic connector for the computer that runs the engine. There is 12V available on one of the pins, but it comes through the computer and not directly from the electrical system. I don't advise using it.

--Mark

crazykz
09-12-2005, 10:36 AM
My suggestion for power is from the quartet wire harness if you have it. The harness is required for some of the Honda accessories like heated grips, or the 12V accessory plug in the fairing pocket. If you have one of those then you have the harness. It's located on the left side of the bike under fairing.

Quartet Harness Install Tutorial (http://koczarski.com/ST1300/QuartetHarness/QuartetHarness.htm)

Pinout for Quartet Harness Connectors (http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7682)



The 3-Pin connector set here will mate up with the 3-Pin on the quartet harness which has 12V, switched 12V, and ground. I recommend getting the crimper.
Electrical Connection, Hitachi Connectors (http://www.electricalconnection.com/electrical-components/hitachi.htm)

It's pretty easy once you understand what's need and what you already have.

Curt

Bahbay
11-24-2005, 11:38 PM
RC and Curt,

>I used to route the cables up from behind the dash and out the slots on top >of the dash, but after seeing how Curt routed his, I've started switching >over to that idea instead ... less hassle in the overall maintenance scheme.

Where can I see how Curt mounted his? I've added the aux harness to my wife's ST and also added an aux 6 position fuse panel and ground block under the seat. for future farkling, and I'm getting set to do the same to my ST.

It would be great to see another take on this.

TIA and best wishes,

Bob Amberger
SF, CA
Bahbay

crazykz
11-25-2005, 08:32 AM
I can try and post another when I get home but it's basically how Charlie is describing it. All the wires are in a wire loom to protect them but the wire loom comes out through that horizontal dash vent towards the top of the dash.

I can then tie wrap (loosely) the wire loom to the dash shelf support. It goes around the back side of the dash shelf and breaks out to all the components. The one on the right of the bike is for the Mix-It and the radar detector. The one on the left is for the GPS and eventually a dash light that I'm currently working on.

I saw someone else that had this setup and it looked pretty good so I tried it myself. I'm pretty happy with the results. I also made sure to bring all of my audio connectors out in the open so I can clean them or readjust them. THey eventually start to cut out or become loose so I didn't want to bust the dash apart to get to them. The only one that isn't accessible is under the tank and I have it taped up to seal it from dirt/dust/moisture and it holds the ends together. Haven't had an issue with that one yet. (KOW)

Curt

sherob
11-25-2005, 09:45 AM
I don't have the GPS yet, but I do have my XM power supply under my seat so I can get to it... as well as my Autocom ;)

crazykz
11-25-2005, 12:17 PM
I put a Centech fuseblock up in the left fairing mounted to the outside of the fairing pocket. It's protected and there's just enough room for it. I used dual-lock to fasten it there and made sure I had plenty of wire to extend the cable harness. That way I can just remove the lower rivots and the one phillips screw on the inner cowling to get to it, pull it off, and pull it outside of the fairing. I do have inline fuses where they were built into the cable harness for certain devices but I try to make sure the inline is higher rated than the fuseblock so the one in the fuseblock is more likely to blow first.

There's some pictures of this setup somewhere on the site. Search for Centech and you'll probably find it.

Curt

crazykz
11-25-2005, 04:56 PM
Ok, Paul calm down. ;) You are right though but I have had a fuse blow to the accessory plug and hand to blindly reach up in there and one hand it to replace the fuse. That one isn't on my fuse panel because it's built into the cable.

I've tried making an attempt to cleanly wire all that stuff in there but everytime I try it ends up being a nightmare. I end up just wire looming (the spiral wrap, not the split tube crap) the whole thing and just be done with it.

I've seen a few circuit breaker solutions but I thought they were a little too expensive and too big but you're right about them being easier than fuses. If you find a generic setup that you can piece together let us know.

I thought about doing the fuses that have a half twist cap and are panel mounted but finding a decent spot for all the ones I need might be tough unless I found a way to mount them under the dash but that really didn't appeal to me either.

Here's a post with some links in it:
http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6776

Here's the post on my fuse panel in the front fairing:
http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3205

Curt

crazykz
11-25-2005, 07:55 PM
I bought an extra motorcycle cable for the 2610 and put a cigarette lighter adaptor on it. I leave it on the bike so if my GPS cable/fuse goes out I can power it off the 12V accessory plug in the fairing pocket.

I have to replace my GPS cable this winter because the one I have is splitting at the point where the power and the audio "Y" is in the cable. So I'm not impressed with the durability of their "motorcycle" cable.

Curt