Newbie with a desire for a ST1300

[1TallTXn]

Howdy ya'll! (yes I am from Texas)

I currently have a 2002 VFR800 and I have been thinking about getting a more dedicated ST bike. Most of my recent non-comuting riding has been 2-up and her knees are not all that great so the VFR is kinda hard on them.

This may be a bad thing to say on this site, but I am kinda looking at the FJR [runs away and hides] and the ST1300.

The biggest hesitation that I have about jumping too a ST is that I really like riding the twisties. I know that the ST handles well but am I going to miss the acceleration and handling of the VFR?

Oh, so is there a time limit for how long I can stay if I DON'T have a ST? :p

[Killtimer]

No time limit for lurkers that I know of..........yet. If you're serious about the difference between the FJR and the ST in the twisties try and get the back issue of TWO and Bike (both British mags). They both gave the ST the edge in the twisty stuff as a result of a smoother power delivery and better suspension. The only areas the FJR has an edge is straight line top gear roll on and top speed, but not by much. My avitar is from the TWO article. Welcome.

[sherob]

More dedicated ST... hmmmm. :rolleyes: That would be the ST1300... you already know about the awesome Honda V4. Stay and lurk ;) You might also want to check out the FJR forum too... have no idea what it is though... he he he.

We need more Texan's on ST1300's! :D

[1TallTXn]

Well, I am a fan of Honda, but I want to keep my options open.

I really wish that I could get a test ride on both the FJR and the ST, that way I could decide from a little experience.

I am going to call the local Yammie dealer to see if they have a FJR in stock for me to sit on. (kinda doubt it as I have heard that they are pretty much order to get)

I know the local Honda dealer doesn't have a ST, might call some of the DFW dealers to see what they have in stock

[Kempo-STer]

Hi Tall..
Like I told you on ST.Net..You're gonna like it here..
Use the search feature for any questions as most likely there will be plenty of information.

Welcome to this little corner of the internet..
It is a great place.


A lot of new ST owners are Texans lately..Keep your head down during Rita and be safe!!

Kempo

[sherob]

Well, I am a fan of Honda, but I want to keep my options open.

I really wish that I could get a test ride on both the FJR and the ST, that way I could decide from a little experience.

I am going to call the local Yammie dealer to see if they have a FJR in stock for me to sit on. (kinda doubt it as I have heard that they are pretty much order to get)

I know the local Honda dealer doesn't have a ST, might call some of the DFW dealers to see what they have in stock

Check for used ones to ride as well... :D You'll be back... I know you'll prefer the far superior ST over the FJR... ;) :D

[Tor]

Check for used ones to ride as well... :D You'll be back... I know you'll prefer the far superior ST over the FJR... ;) :D

Rob,

Avatar,,,,niiice. I like it.:D

[sherob]

Rob,

Avatar,,,,niiice. I like it.:D

I thought I'd give my cat's a laid back look for a while... :D

[texxter]

Welcome the the forum - I moved from a VFR800 to an ST - I really loved the engineering refinement on the VFR and the engine, oh, that engine. I moved to the ST for a more powerful and convenient machine, with a great V4 also and a sport attitude. I did look at the FJR, but I am really sold on the Honda quality, reliability and refinement. I love my ST, it's just as much fun as the VFR on the road, and at the same time I get a better vehicle for commuting and long distance travel... I love it. THE FJR will be more on the sport side of the equation than the ST, but the Honda is indestructible, more comfortable and more refined.

[Horst]

Yes you will miss the VFR sometimes .... :(
Yes, *she* will absolutely love the ST ... :D

It's all on where your priorities lie ... but the ST is a better bike than the FJR from a touring and reliability factor ... FJR owners have had some problems.

[Pred8tor]

I'd like to say I could give you an objective answer, but since I'm the proud owner of a ST I can't really be objective - since I love it sooooo much!!!

[1TallTXn]

Yes you will miss the VFR sometimes .... :(
Yes, *she* will absolutely love the ST ... :D

It's all on where your priorities lie ... but the ST is a better bike than the FJR from a touring and reliability factor ... FJR owners have had some problems.

Haven't the ST's had a few issues too? High speed wobble for example?

I am not trying to pick a fight here, just trying to get a good perspective

Has anyone had any problems with their ST's? I am not talking about "oh well mine developed a leak when I didn't put the plug in correctly" but real, Honda-goofed problems

The only used ST in Texas that I can find sold yesterday. and it was a great deal :(

[STArnie13]

Yes, the early ST1300's had a couple of problems. Mostly engine heat and a bit of high speed wobble. The wobble was supposed to be fixed with retorqueing but some still mention it from time to time. They had a couple of recalls for fairly minor things but were slow with getting parts to at least some dealers.

The FJR has just as much of a heat problem as the ST although for 06 Yamaha supposedly has worked on it. Some owners of each model have sold them because of heat. It just depends on the individual. The FJR has had a ticking problem that many owners had problems getting Yamaha to pay for. That is why I passed on the FJR. Yamaha has supposedly worked on the problem. Hopefully they have it fixed by now.

Myself, I have not had a problem with heat, wobble or anything else with my ST1300. I had no problem with the stock Dunlops on my 1300 but switched to the Z6/880 combination and it feels even more secure.

I am in Wichita, Kansas. The dealer here has at least one new ST1300 and 2 used 03 FJR's. They have had both the FJRs for some time now and one of the salesmen told me Saturday that the ST isn't selling too well. They might be in a mood to make a good deal for either one. :03biker:

[Ken]

Haven't the ST's had a few issues too? High speed wobble for example?

I am not trying to pick a fight here, just trying to get a good perspective

Has anyone had any problems with their ST's? I am not talking about "oh well mine developed a leak when I didn't put the plug in correctly" but real, Honda-goofed problems

The only used ST in Texas that I can find sold yesterday. and it was a great deal :(
There were reports of high speed wobbles on the 02's that were only sold in Europe. There were a couple of recalls as well, so make sure these have been done on anything you buy.

I have an '03 and have put nearly 6K on her with no problems. I'm so enamored with this bike that I will likely purchase the extended warranty before my 3 year one is up.

Here's a link on cycletrader on a decent ST13 deal in your neck of the woods:
http://adcache.cycletrader.com/5/7/4/80938174.htm

[wjbertrand]

I too was tempted by the FJR but several comparitive advantages to the ST1300 swayed me:

1. 3-Year unlimited mileage warrantee
2. Well thought out tip over protection (already benefitted from this twice!)
3. Previous positive experience w/Honda quality & reliablility
4. Narrower, better tucked in panniers (lots of lane splitting in SoCal)
5. Smoother

There were some disadvantages to the FJR that gave me cold feet as well:
1. Current, seemingly unresolved, issue with excessive valve guide wear.
2. Previous, not so positive, experience with Yamaha quality & reliability

To be fair The FJR has some advantages over the ST too:
1. Cheaper price
2. More powerful
3. Lighter

[1TallTXn]

Just got off the phone with the local Yammie dealer and he doesn't have a FJR in stock (not surprised) and the nearest Honda dealer has a '05 ABS model that he is asking $14,299 for. I know these are expensive bikes but that seems a little high for me. Might go sit on it just to see.
Really don't like the '05 Red though, the 03 silver and 04 blue i like much better. and of course nobody has the '06 in black yet :(
Actually honda doesn't even list the 06 under their normal listings on their website.

My VFR can get pretty warm on the legs sitting in traffic and the hot sun, so the heat issue shouldn't be too big of a problem. I regularly ride ~90mph on weekends chasing my friend on his SV (it isn't much of a race ;) ) so a wobble would not be accepted.

The 3yr/unlimited milage warranty sounds really nice, I didn't know anybody put that on for that long. :eek:

Thanks for all the responses and input!

[Mellow]

Did ya see this one on Cycletrader?

http://adcache.cycletrader.com/5/7/4/80938174.htm

[1TallTXn]

Did ya see this one on Cycletrader?

http://adcache.cycletrader.com/5/7/4/80938174.htm
yeah, thats the one that got me started looking, but he sold it yesterday :sad:

Thanks for the link though

[Mellow]

No problem. I've dealt with Chickasha in OK on a previous Wing and they gave me a great deal so that's another option, I see they have an '04 model too. Also, I've heard Altus in OK would also deal.

[1TallTXn]

thanks for the link, their site says they have a '05 non-abs for $11,999 and the abs model for $12,999. But, darn it, I don't like that '05 red

found another "local" dealer that has a non-abs for $13,699 (Al Lambs Dallas Honda)

[1TallTXn]

hmm, my place to Corinth is ~600 miles, does an Iron butt have to be done on one bike? or can one switch in the middle? :D

[sherob]

hmm, my place to Corinth is ~600 miles, does an Iron butt have to be done on one bike? or can one switch in the middle? :D


ROFL! You wouldn't make it... you would get lost in time... start heading for the twisties in TN and AR... it would take you a week to get home :D

[1TallTXn]

ROFL! You wouldn't make it... you would get lost in time... start heading for the twisties in TN and AR... it would take you a week to get home :D
probably true, but it was the thought that counted right?

:D :D

[Kempo-STer]

thanks for the link, their site says they have a '05 non-abs for $11,999 and the abs model for $12,999. But, darn it, I don't like that '05 red

found another "local" dealer that has a non-abs for $13,699 (Al Lambs Dallas Honda)


First of all..what the heck is your name..I hate calling you 'Tall'!
Second I'll ignore your comments about the red... :p:

Which one sticks out in this pic???? :bow1: :biker:

If you still want a slower Blue or Grey one..My dealer in CT has an 04 (Blue) sitting in the show room with 1500 miles on it. Last time I heard he was asking 10,500...I'll be gald to talk to him and find out more info (email you pics) or help your if you fly here and ride home with it..etc..

Let me know unnamed one

[Ken]

Which one sticks out in this pic???? :bow1: :biker:

The Taurus :p:

[1TallTXn]

perhaps "flag pole" would be more fitting :lol:

no, the name here is Nathan.

Its not that I dislike the red one, I just like the blue/sliver ones better

[1TallTXn]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kempo-STer
Which one sticks out in this pic????

The Taurus

umm, isn't that a Camry? mid 90's model i think

sorry, ex auto mechanic here

[Kempo-STer]

perhaps "flag pole" would be more fitting :lol:

no, the name here is Nathan.

Its not that I dislike the red one, I just like the blue/sliver ones better


SOOo Nathan..
Question still stands..You want me to ask about the 04...
You may be able to work shipping or at least part of it into the deal??

If yes, my suggestion is to check on shipping and try to nogotiate down on that price to cover the cost..(My guess is shipping would be between 5 and 800)..

[SToler]

No problem. I've dealt with Chickasha in OK on a previous Wing and they gave me a great deal so that's another option, I see they have an '04 model too. Also, I've heard Altus in OK would also deal.
Beat me to it, I was going to mention that I thought someone here said that Altus Motorsports would make a good deal on the ST.

www.altusmotorsports.com

BUT, silver is faster. I would keep looking for an 03. :D :bow1: :03biker:

[1TallTXn]

Beat me to it, I was going to mention that I thought someone here said that Altus Motorsports would make a good deal on the ST.

www.altusmotorsports.com

BUT, silver is faster. I would keep looking for an 03. :D :bow1: :03biker:
I just got off the phone with Altus MS and they are all out of ST1300's they can still order a '05 non-ABS but have no idea when the '06's will be in. and the used ones are all gone. Oh they are asking $12,399 for the '05 non-abs

Chickasha Honda is also completely out of stock

[1TallTXn]

SOOo Nathan..
Question still stands..You want me to ask about the 04...
You may be able to work shipping or at least part of it into the deal??

If yes, my suggestion is to check on shipping and try to nogotiate down on that price to cover the cost..(My guess is shipping would be between 5 and 800)..

Just checked with Federal MC Transport. their quick quote said ~$783 for one > 950cc bike. that is excluding any discounts and I understand that HRCA members get a discount, though I don't know how much.

I would be fun to fly up and ride back, but it may be cheaper to just have it shipped with the way ticket prices are these days. (shrug)

[Big Al]

Haven't the ST's had a few issues too? High speed wobble for example?

I am not trying to pick a fight here, just trying to get a good perspective

Has anyone had any problems with their ST's? I am not talking about "oh well mine developed a leak when I didn't put the plug in correctly" but real, Honda-goofed problems

The only used ST in Texas that I can find sold yesterday. and it was a great deal :(I've taken my 05' ST up to 150 mph on the open hwy and experienced no high speed wobble. - You will find that if you ride with short sleeve pants, or in temps higher than 100 degrees f, then the engine heat will burn your shins. The fairing wind deflectors accessory was designed to remedy that and, according to some people, really works.

[1TallTXn]

Good to here Big Al.

Kempo, air-fare isn't too bad ~$275-$325 (one-way) but its a 13hr flight :eek: which seems really long and that would be a heck of a drive back.

Over all I think it would be cheaper for me to just get a bike in OK or TX as even if it is a little more it will be cheaper in the long run.

I don't dislike the Red enough to not get one if I can find it cheap enough.

Thanks for the info ya'll

[Kempo-STer]

Good to here Big Al.

Kempo, air-fare isn't too bad ~$275-$325 (one-way) but its a 13hr flight :eek: which seems really long and that would be a heck of a drive back.

Over all I think it would be cheaper for me to just get a bike in OK or TX as even if it is a little more it will be cheaper in the long run.

I don't dislike the Red enough to not get one if I can find it cheap enough.

Thanks for the info ya'll


Agree with you..A lot less aggravation to buy local..PM me if you need me though..

[SToler]

Good to here Big Al.

Kempo, air-fare isn't too bad ~$275-$325 (one-way) but its a 13hr flight :eek: which seems really long and that would be a heck of a drive back.

Over all I think it would be cheaper for me to just get a bike in OK or TX as even if it is a little more it will be cheaper in the long run.

I don't dislike the Red enough to not get one if I can find it cheap enough.

Thanks for the info ya'll
Good luck, and keep on looking. It took me 2 months or so to find mine. Ended up with one from Tulsa, I think the only :03biker: for sale in the state.

Scott

[1TallTXn]

Agree with you..A lot less aggravation to buy local..PM me if you need me though..
Thanks for the offer, I will let you know if I need your help.

While OK isn't exactly "local" its a lot closer then CT

I will keep looking, maybe I will find one that is already farkled for cheap! :D

[Pred8tor]

I can't say I've hit 150mph like Al, but I've been over 110mph, and I'm surprised about this "wobble" talk. I've had no hint of wobble on mine. I was following (not too closely) a tractor trailer earlier this summer that was hitting near 100mph, and the bike was solid as a rock.

Good luck on your hunt. When I bought mine, I really wanted ABS, and at the time there were only two in the state of North Carolina. There was one up in Virginia, and one down in S. Carolina. I had a local dealer help out with a search. I did some phone dealing between the two dealers in NC before I made my purchase.

[wjbertrand]

umm, isn't that a Camry? mid 90's model i think

sorry, ex auto mechanic here

Looks like some kind of Nissan or Infinity to me, A Maxima or an I-35 perhaps?

[Vanburi]

Here ya go...

http://adcache.cycletrader.com/5/7/4/80938174.htm

Regards,

[Tor]

All my wife says is: "Tor, you've got friggin ST1300 on your brain"

Yes I do, yes I do. Will continue to, until she friggin falls apart, and you can't get parts for her anymore. Then my friend, I just hope I can manage the mourning that follows.:-(

[pronomian]

The FJR has had a ticking problem that many owners had problems getting Yamaha to pay for. That is why I passed on the FJR. Yamaha has supposedly worked on the problem. Hopefully they have it fixed by now.

Some have had tickers which the dealers, from what I have read, readily fixed. Even read where one fix the ticker free,even though it was out of warranty. Yamaha, has far as I know, has not addressed the problem, but will fix one when it comes up.

http://www.fjrowners.com/fjro4/usa.html

http://p083.ezboard.com/ffjr1300ownersassociationfrm1

Mike

[1TallTXn]

Here ya go...

http://adcache.cycletrader.com/5/7/4/80938174.htm

Regards,
yep, that one is already sold. :sad: thats the one that I looked at first

[1TallTXn]

Looks like some kind of Nissan or Infinity to me, A Maxima or an I-35 perhaps?
I think you are right. been away from the cars for too long to guess correctly

And this is a "I want a ST thread" :lol:

[SToler]

1TallTXn:

Got some good info for ya. To a different way home from work today and happened to drive by the Honda shop and remembered this post. Thought what the hell, they might have one. Took a peek as I went by and saw an 04 and an 05!!!
Just called and they said this:

05 Non ABS ST1300 :biker:
Miles-1900
Price-$12,800

04 ABS :04biker:
Miles-2300
Price-$12,495

I know, it is high, but you should be able to work them down. Heck you can get a brand new one for cheaper than either one of those prices.

This is their contact info: www.maxeys.com phone:405-946-0558
They don't have pics on their website. :mad: I talked to Spencer.

I am not affiliated with this shop; actually I don't like most of the people that I have dealt with there, but I thought I would pass this on.

I can stop by there on Monday for you or anyone else for that matter and take some pics and look the bikes over really good for you.

Let me know what I can do to help.

PS: This goes for anyone also.
If you decide to buy one and want to fly up here and ride it home I can pick you up at the airport and take you there.

Scott

[JIMinMA]

I just bought an ST1300 after riding an Aprilia Futura (similar to the VFR) for several years. I too was nervous about the change and kinda felt I was getting an "old man's" bike (I am 33). However, after riding the ST for a week and a half I am very happy with my decision.

There is plenty of power for me and, although I haven't done any real twisty stuff yet, I think it will handle them just fine. I may need to slow it down a touch but not much. The seat on my Futura was a million times more comfotable but the riding position and wind protection is spot on for me...not too upright and I still get some wind with the shield down.

The most difficult aspect for me so far has been adjusting to the weight of the bike. It isn't an issue once moving but I have had difficulty parking and moving it around in my garage.

I too did not like the red but it has grown on me.

Good luck with your decision!

Jim

[Kempo-STer]

HI Jim..
What part of MA are you from?..
There a few STers from MA (Bones in MA, Steve3b3, Big Al, No Quarter, RWL, another from Boston I believe KingPrawn??..sorry guys those are the only ones come to mind)

Myself and another CT Ster guy are headed to MA on Tuesday to farkle around with our bikes...


Welcome..Make sure you post and introduce yourself to the gang..The MA guys will be happy to know about you.

Kempo

[NCSam]

I've been looking for the "perfect" bike longer than you have lived and I have finally come to the conclusion - there isn't one! The happiest I've ever been is now - I have an -04 ST1300 set up for touring and a '04 VFr .... best of both worlds.

I checked out the FJR before I purchased the ST. FJR definetely leans more to the "sporting" side but not as comfortable as the ST. In the twisties, I didn't notice any difference in the two bikes.

I'm still seeking the perfect single bike, however. Yesterday I checked out a yellow 'n black BMW K1200S. An awesome bike. Expensive. It still won't do what the ST and the VFR do together! The back seat doesn't look that comfortable and the pegs are high (although not as high as the VFR). You might like it, however. If I was in a position to afford it, I would go for the K1200S over the FJR. I think the bike only weighs about 520 pounds!

Just my two cents worth!

[BentAero]

Schroaders Honda in Hendersonville, NC has:

04 w/o $11,999
04A $12,999

05 w/o $12,999
05A $13,999

Orbitz lists several $274. fares (all fees incl) from DFW to Greenville, SC (just south of H'ville, NC)

I could pick you up at the airport, stop and pick up the bike, ( I have a guest room) then blast around the NC mountains for a couple days before you rode home...

[BentAero]

Sorry, forgot the hyperlink.
http://www.schroaders.com/

[NCSam]

Check these prices.
http://www.vtxriders.com/Ohio-webpage/bikesonsale.htm

[stealthstrom]

A friend of mine has a FJR. I rode it for about 3 miles and my legs were on fire...I had to get off! And that was on a 80 degree day! All the engine heat goes right to your legs. It will cook you. Good bike for Alaska, not for Texas!
Go with the ST.

SS

[1TallTXn]

1TallTXn:

Got some good info for ya. To a different way home from work today and happened to drive by the Honda shop and remembered this post. Thought what the hell, they might have one. Took a peek as I went by and saw an 04 and an 05!!!
Just called and they said this:

05 Non ABS ST1300 :biker:
Miles-1900
Price-$12,800

04 ABS :04biker:
Miles-2300
Price-$12,495

I know, it is high, but you should be able to work them down. Heck you can get a brand new one for cheaper than either one of those prices.

This is their contact info: www.maxeys.com phone:405-946-0558
They don't have pics on their website. :mad: I talked to Spencer.

I am not affiliated with this shop; actually I don't like most of the people that I have dealt with there, but I thought I would pass this on.

I can stop by there on Monday for you or anyone else for that matter and take some pics and look the bikes over really good for you.

Let me know what I can do to help.

PS: This goes for anyone also.
If you decide to buy one and want to fly up here and ride it home I can pick you up at the airport and take you there.

Scott
SToler: Thanks for looking, those guys are a fair bit closer the Altus. Though Altus can get me a '05 non-abs for $11,999 but it will take 10 days to come in.

I am going to go to the "local" dealer in Ft Worth and have a test sit and see if I can talk them down to a more reasonable price. If I can pay just a little more and not drive to OK then I would be better off anyway, but if they won't budge then I just might run up to OK.

The more I think about it the more I think that I really want to ride a ST, but just a sit may do the trick.

On a side note, what are you guys paying for Insurance? and who from?
I am currently paying $190/yr for liability on the VFR (I'm too young and its a "sportbike" :( )
I need to call and see if I can get a quote on switching bikes.
BTW I have Progressive.

Thanks again guys!

[SToler]

SToler: Thanks for looking, those guys are a fair bit closer the Altus. Though Altus can get me a '05 non-abs for $11,999 but it will take 10 days to come in.

I am going to go to the "local" dealer in Ft Worth and have a test sit and see if I can talk them down to a more reasonable price. If I can pay just a little more and not drive to OK then I would be better off anyway, but if they won't budge then I just might run up to OK.

The more I think about it the more I think that I really want to ride a ST, but just a sit may do the trick.

On a side note, what are you guys paying for Insurance? and who from?
I am currently paying $190/yr for liability on the VFR (I'm too young and its a "sportbike" :( )
I need to call and see if I can get a quote on switching bikes.
BTW I have Progressive.

Thanks again guys!
Okay, I hope you can get a better deal down there, if I can help let me know.

EDIT:When I first saw the ST I didn't like it, then I rode it! It was all over after that, had to get one. If you already like it, then when you ride one you won't be able to turn back. :D

I am paying $309/year for full coverage and uninsured motorists coverage, but I think that is cheaper than most are paying. It has something to do with living in OK. Company is Farmers Ins.

Scott

[STeve1300]

I am going to go to the "local" dealer in Ft Worth and have a test sit and see if I can talk them down to a more reasonable price. If I can pay just a little more and not drive to OK then I would be better off anyway, but if they won't budge then I just might run up to OK.

The more I think about it the more I think that I really want to ride a ST, but just a sit may do the trick.


Try printing the ads / webpages with the low prices, and bring them with you to the dealer. My local dealer has an "unadvertised policy" of matching the low price on not just motorcycles, but parts & accessories too. It doesn't hurt to ask. (Unadvertised so they aren't compelled to honor every claim, I suppose)

[1TallTXn]

Try printing the ads / webpages with the low prices, and bring them with you to the dealer. My local dealer has an "unadvertised policy" of matching the low price on not just motorcycles, but parts & accessories too. It doesn't hurt to ask. (Unadvertised so they aren't compelled to honor every claim, I suppose)
that pretty much what I was planning on doing. Hope fully they will match the $12,000 price and I can take it home :D

thanks for the help SToler, I need to call Progressive and get them to give me a quote, I don't see how it will be MORE for the ST then the VFR, unless they go strictly off of the number of CC's :confused:

[Kempo-STer]

that pretty much what I was planning on doing. Hope fully they will match the $12,000 price and I can take it home :D

thanks for the help SToler, I need to call Progressive and get them to give me a quote, I don't see how it will be MORE for the ST then the VFR, unless they go strictly off of the number of CC's :confused:

Also Nathan don't forget it is newer and of higher cash value..
Thats really why you should expect it to be more than your VFR..
If you had both and totalled both, the insurance company would have to write how much of a check to replace each one??

This is why you should expect to pay more for the ST

[1TallTXn]

tis true, tis true, kinda forgot about that DOH!!!

thanks for pointing that out.

I will call insurance when I get a free minute

[Kempo-STer]

tis true, tis true, kinda forgot about that DOH!!!

thanks for pointing that out.

I will call insurance when I get a free minute


Should not be too bad though...
I went from a 1990 Yamah Virago last year (My first bike) to the ST this year and my policy (with Progressive) went up about 230 bucks..Less than I expected..Of course I am old at 36 :p:

Now them Canadians though..their insurance..ooof!

[1TallTXn]

Should not be too bad though...
I went from a 1990 Yamah Virago last year (My first bike) to the ST this year and my policy (with Progressive) went up about 230 bucks..Less than I expected..Of course I am old at 36 :p:

Now them Canadians though..their insurance..ooof!
wow, i bet that bike change was rather dramatic

nothing major though, just added 1150 cc's :eek:

and "Old" is a state of mind

[Big Al]

You're lucky you don't live in Taxachusetts. :money1:
Not sure what the rules are in other states but, in Mass, if you're financing the bike, you must have collision ins.
This is costing me $2,100 a year. :( That's twice wat I pay for my auto ins. :confused:

[Kempo-STer]

You're lucky you don't live in Taxachusetts. :money1:
Not sure what the rules are in other states but, in Mass, if you're financing the bike, you must have collision ins.
This is costing me $2,100 a year. :( That's twice wat I pay for my auto ins. :confused:


Hi Big Al!! Good to have you back...Hows the bike coming?
Any news on when you are going to have it back?

Did you catch the pictures of the Constoc gallery?? You missed a great time!
Still have an open invite!

[Kempo-STer]

wow, i bet that bike change was rather dramatic

nothing major though, just added 1150 cc's :eek:

and "Old" is a state of mind


Actually yes it was dramatic..However the Virago I had was a 750 not a 250..
Still going fomr a 750 V twin to a 1300 V4 was quite a switch..

And Yes I absolutely agree with you..but from an insurance company perspective I'd rather be called old..

If you catch the Constoc gallery (now featured on the home page..My bike is the Beautiful Red one in the front that sticks out more the the duller blue or grey ones :D :p: )which I co-hosted you'd know I am not a day older mentally than 15..I refuse to grow up.

Here's proof!

[1TallTXn]

doh, my bad I didn't realize they made a 750 virago.

Please tell me that wasn't you in the out fit :D :D :lol:

[1TallTXn]

You're lucky you don't live in Taxachusetts. :money1:
Not sure what the rules are in other states but, in Mass, if you're financing the bike, you must have collision ins.
This is costing me $2,100 a year. :( That's twice wat I pay for my auto ins. :confused:
yeah, I think that is the case here in tx too, but am not sure :(

[Big Al]

Hi Big Al!! Good to have you back...Hows the bike coming?
Any news on when you are going to have it back?

Did you catch the pictures of the Constoc gallery?? You missed a great time!
Still have an open invite!
Thanks Kemp,
Its been 3 weeks so far and I just got through pulling teeth with the ins company. As of this yesterday, I finally had the repair order opened up with the Dealer. The total for the repair is just over $3,000. Its probably going to be another 2-3 weeks. - I sure did miss a good time with you guys at ConSTOC. - I've been checking out all the good pics from the trip.

As for paying $2,100 a year... I guess it's paid off.
Insurance is only good when you need it.

[Kempo-STer]

Thanks Kemp,
Its been 3 weeks so far and I just got through pulling teeth with the ins company. As of this yesterday, I finally had the repair order opened up with the Dealer. The total for the repair is just over $3,000. Its probably going to be another 2-3 weeks. - I sure did miss a good time with you guys at ConSTOC. - I've been checking out all the good pics from the trip.

As for paying $2,100 a year... I guess it's paid off.
Insurance is only good when you need it.


We are gonna do another one next year definitely.

[Kempo-STer]

Nathan here is one that just got posted..

Don't know where he is from (I asked)
But man he's got a laundry list of goodies that may make even the red one look good to you!

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6223

[1TallTXn]

Nathan here is one that just got posted..

Don't know where he is from (I asked)
But man he's got a laundry list of goodies that may make even the red one look good to you!

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6223
hmm, that does look rather farkled.

I called and Woods Fun Center in austin has an '05 that they will give me $14,190 out the door. Said he might be able to match something if I told him.

I will try to get the guy in FTW to do that or else I might run down to Austin. its much closer then N OK.

[SToler]

Nathan here is one that just got posted..

Don't know where he is from (I asked)
But man he's got a laundry list of goodies that may make even the red one look good to you!

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6223
His plate says Georgia, the Peach State.
Nice looking bike, I too wonder why he is selling with so many Farkles and so little miles.

Scott

[sherob]

Thanks Kemp,
Its been 3 weeks so far and I just got through pulling teeth with the ins company. As of this yesterday, I finally had the repair order opened up with the Dealer. The total for the repair is just over $3,000. Its probably going to be another 2-3 weeks. - I sure did miss a good time with you guys at ConSTOC. - I've been checking out all the good pics from the trip.

As for paying $2,100 a year... I guess it's paid off.
Insurance is only good when you need it.

It's probably going to be more like a 4 to 6 weeks... just on what it took for mine to be fixed. Nothing but tupperware, $2k damage :( Hope it's quicker for you ;)

[1TallTXn]

not sure, but if I could get it for that price I might go get it, depending on where in Georgia I would have to go, might make for an ironbutt hehe

[sherob]

You and your IB cert... sounds like you have a bad case of RCitis :D

[1TallTXn]

ah, would be fun, but am not really worried about it. but if I have to get back for work and its close to the required distance, why not?

[sherob]

Damn right! ;)

[Kempo-STer]

doh, my bad I didn't realize they made a 750 virago.

Please tell me that wasn't you in the out fit :D :D :lol:


Yes it was me..sort of..I am the victim of a professional artist with photo shop..We where around the firehaving some fun and trojanman came up..
Don;t ask me how but man did I pay for thoses comments..

BTW..
Did I not tell you what a helpfull great group of people are on this website!!
It really enhances ownership something fierce..You got guys looking for you, willing to pick you up at airports..etc..

This is really a great extended family we have here!

[1TallTXn]

Yes it was me..sort of..I am the victim of a professional artist with photo shop..We where around the firehaving some fun and trojanman came up..
Don;t ask me how but man did I pay for thoses comments..

BTW..
Did I not tell you what a helpfull great group of people are on this website!!
It really enhances ownership something fierce..You got guys looking for you, willing to pick you up at airports..etc..

This is really a great extended family we have here!
No kidding. I had better at least tell you guys that I got a ST just so I can hang around :lol:

No, I really would like to get a ST I just don't know when it will be. I am going to go up to FtW tomorrow and talk to the dealer and see what they can come down too. Otherwise Austin has one for $14,200 OTD which isn't all that bad really.

Thanks everyone for the help in this wonderful little quest of mine :bow1: :yr1:

[Carl_T]

I am the victim of a professional artist with photo shop.. :crackup :crackup :crackup VICTIM?????...Watch out Pinocchio, your nose is gonna grow so long you'll need a wheelbarrow to carry it around. My poncho started out blue, and turned red from the roasting I got at the campfire. :crackup

[Kempo-STer]

:biker: :crackup :crackup :crackup VICTIM?????...Watch out Pinocchio, your nose is gonna grow so long you'll need a wheelbarrow to carry it around. My poncho started out blue, and turned red from the roasting I got at the campfire. :crackup


I 'pray' for your your forgiveness :bow1: :biker:

As to your poncho, don't sit so close to the fire next time :D

[Carl_T]

Happily forgiven, but I think I need to pray for yours too :bow1: :D

[1TallTXn]

Went up and sat on the 05ABS that Honda West has and like it

Kempo, you will be glad to know that I actually liked the Dark Candy Red color. :p

They were going to let me take it home if I gave them $15,900 :eek:
so I kindly told them that I would pass.

Austin has one for $14,200 OTD ($12,150+TTL) and they (Chad) was real helpful and willing to work with me.

I have found a used one (err, he found me) for $10,500 so I am going to see if I can look at that one.

Anybody want a nice VFR? (I wish I could keep both, but I can't and I suspect the viffer would wind up sitting a lot more)

[1TallTXn]

After a fair bit of thought, and ~100 miles of riding the VFR. I think that I am going to wait on the ST for a while. I will have the VFR paid for in a few months and will continue the search for the ST at that point.

Thanks to everyone for their information and research.

I think I will continue to hang around here and keep my eyes open for a great deal. That is if you guys don't run me off for not having a ST :)

But I put bags on the VFR so its kinda like a baby ST. See

[sherob]

Amen on that! ;)

Hang around and pic up on the mistakes we make farkling up :D

[Kempo-STer]

After a fair bit of thought, and ~100 miles of riding the VFR. I think that I am going to wait on the ST for a while. I will have the VFR paid for in a few months and will continue the search for the ST at that point.

Thanks to everyone for their information and research.

I think I will continue to hang around here and keep my eyes open for a great deal. That is if you guys don't run me off for not having a ST :)

But I put bags on the VFR so its kinda like a baby ST. See


Don't be afraid to stick around..There are plenty of people who do not own an ST here..You can keep us 'blind to anything but an ST guys' honest..

PS.. Picture of your VFR taken at a campground??

[1TallTXn]

PS.. Picture of your VFR taken at a campground??

no, actually that's my drive way with my parents trailer in the background.

Rocket_Cowboy: I will try and make one of the TWT meet-n-greet's some time in the near future. won't be the next couple times as other stuff is going on, but will try to catch one.

Thanks again. I will try to not be too obnoxious about the superiority of my VFR :D :p:

[sherob]

Thanks again. I will try to not be too obnoxious about the superiority of my VFR :D :p:

Buwaaahaaahaaa... you funny... you fit right in! :D

[OLDCB'R]

Hello group,

Like Nathan I don't own an ST either but I am growing my bank account in the hopes of getting one.

I haven't ridden or even sat one so I'm not really sure it would fit me. I like the idea of comfort and performance so the idea to look at an ST1300 sorted out as logical.

I have seen that some people think they are top heavy and difficult to horse around. I'm not getting stronger at my age and I like to feel that the bike is naturaly balanced at a stop and not something I have to be too aware of.

Can anyone give me a comparison say to a CB900 as far as the effort required to park and back up ETC.

Thanks