Accessory Plug fuse location

[RockSTer]

Hi guys;

I have a simple (and probably dumb) question. The dealer installed my Honda accessory plug so I am not really sure of the details like fuse location etc. I just tried to use it for a small air compressor and looks like I blew the fuse. I looked at the fuses in the left side fuse block and they all look ok. I assume there might be an inline fuse. Can anyone tell me if there is and how to locate it?

Thanks


Rock

By the way, here are a couple of recent pictures taken on my trip from Calgary to Tucson. As you can see I have the smuggler trunk and Corbin seat. The heated seat was great on the first day of the trip when it was 45 degrees and rained for 8 hours.

[RockSTer]

Obviously, I havn't properly posted the pics I mentioned in the first post. Maybe someone can help me out with that too! :confused:

Thanks

Update:

I guess even though I risized the pics to a max pf 3000 pixels in one dimension this was still too large so I shrunk them down some more and now they will load. Thanks all for the help on this.

[Kennedy]

Your right, its an inline fuse. The honda 12 volt outlet plugs into the quartet harness and I think its only rated for 2 amps?? Now to get at that fuse I think you have a problem on your hands, correct me if I am wrong here fellows but think it will require you to remove the left side tupperware. This is what you have I guess.
http://www.hondadirectlineusa.com/stores/product.asp?pid=2416&str=10&ID=362790548
Most of the members have added other power out lets for higher power items such as these
http://www.powerletproducts.com/products/honda_st1300_dualrear.php
or this
http://www.powerletproducts.com/products/honda_st1300_rfpanel.php

[RockSTer]

That doesn't sound too scary. Why the left side tupperware? Based on that pic (the first one) It looks like the fuse should be under the pocket.

[Kennedy]

Never did it yet but will get at mine over the winter, many others have on the board and sure will be able to help you out better then I. If you do a search I am sure you will get a lot of info of the process. In that pick you will see there is only the matter of a few inches of wire from the plug to the fuse holder. The plud pluges into the quartet harness which is under the left side of the bike.

[Jeff F]

Thanks Dave.

Any help on posting pics?

"Manage Attachments" is what you're looking for. Scroll down in the Reply to Thread screen to find it. The process is all fairly self explanatory after this but if you have specific questions once you get this far - ask.

About the Honda accessory plug .... what Dave says. The fuse is at the far end of the outlet harness which, assuming the dealer installed it using the Honda quad harness, ends up on the left side of the bike. Its likely this harness was used although it is a seperate optional item that you would have been charged for so you'd likely remember paying for it. If not - I'd head for the battery looking for a direct to batt connection.

[RockSTer]

Thanks guys. I'll open up the left side later today and have a look there.

[rsadler221]

I was thinking of getting the Honda Accessory Plug for using an Air Compressor and battery charger. Will it not handle these and should I get the Powerlet plugs instead?

Robert

[Mellow]

When I had my ST... I added a powerlet on both sides of the fairing, just below the pockets, and connected them straight to the battery w/inline fuse.

That way, on either side, I could run and air compressor or battery tender or heated clothes as long as the plugs were the bmw style plugs.

I never added the harness, some do, some don't.. .I just didn't want to take all that plastic off to get to it back then and adding the powlets was much easier...

[Kennedy]

I was thinking of getting the Honda Accessory Plug for using an Air Compressor and battery charger. Will it not handle these and should I get the Powerlet plugs instead?

Robert
It will not handle these things. Its 2 (amp?) and made for things like a cell phone and other light duty stuff. I use mine all the time for the cell phone and its good for that.

[Jeff F]

I was thinking of getting the Honda Accessory Plug for using an Air Compressor and battery charger. Will it not handle these and should I get the Powerlet plugs instead?

Robert

I have both.

The Honda cig style is OK for my low power requirements as it only has a 2 amp fuse & lighter gage wiring. A compressor would blow the fuse, but its nice in that its hidden in the left pocket where the Powerlet is installed on the outside of the pocket.

Because the Honda is somewhat limited I also have the Powerlet rear dual BMW style outlets - a direct connect to the battery. It is much heavier with a 15 amp fuse - great for prettty much anything like heated clothes, compressor, etc. You may need adapters with longer leads for some stuff (like clothes) when using the rear outlets.

Powerlet stuff is decent IMO.

Cheers,

[RockSTer]

I havn't opened mine up to confirm it yet, but I am certain that the mini compressor blew the fuse immediately. The compressor worked fine from the car plug later and everything else is working fine on the bike. I wish I had known that it was only a 2 amp fuse. Would have saved a lot of hassle.

[rsadler221]

Thanks guys for the info. and thanks Darrell for your post because I was like you I didn't realize the Honda plug would only handle 2 amps.

Robert

[crazykz]

If you nible enough you might be able to get to the fuse but just removing the inner cowling. I did it. It wasn't easy but I was able to do it. It's a blade fuse in a rubber mounting with a cap on it.

If you are going to run a compressor I suggest getting a harness setup right to the battery and you will need a 10 Amp fuse. You can try putting a 10 Amp fuse in your accessory plug harness but I'm not sure that the wiring going back to the fuesblock will take that or not. I'm sure there's others hear that could answer that question.

Curt

[RockSTer]

Here is an update.
I finally had a chance to take off the body panels and replace the fuse. After removing the lower cowls, mirror cover, mirror, engine guard cover, inner cowl and finally the middle cowl, in about that order as per the service manual, I could easily access the fuse holder for the accessory plug. Now in hindsight, the way mine was installed, it would have been easily accessable by removing the upper cowl (which necessitates removal of the windscreen). Since I didn't do that one, I can't comment on hard that would be but I suspect, based on the service manual, that it is pretty staightforward and it can be done without removing any of the others I think.

As with anything like this, it is easy to take it apart, and always a bit tricky to get everything lined back up, with all the little rubber bits in the right places, and hook up the heated grip control wires, while holding the panel etc. etc. But all said, it all went fine and no parts left over!! :D

When I did up the last few trim clips (broke one small one but it was not essential) I had a thought typical of someone who doesn't do this kind of thing very often. "Perhaps I should have made sure the accessory plug was working before I buttoned everything up" :rolleyes: But as it turned out, it was back in business except I used a 5 amp fuse instead of a 2 amp. Basically I just had a heck of a time finding a 2 amp large blade fuse so I figured 5 would be ok since I know that it is really only meant for cell phones, GPS etc. (not my compressor).

Thanks for all the help. For those who have reservations about this kind of thing, I am certainly not mechanically inclined and it turned out to be very straightforward.

[Stash247]

I bought a replacement cover for the left side compartment, from Cycle Gadgets, I think, and dedicated the left side pocket to a wiring well; 2 powerlet sockets, a cigar lighter well, and three switches, all thru a fused barrier strip. One 30 amp circuit brings battery power, the other, 20 amp, brings switched power, thru a Bosch relay, to the strip; fuses in the strip determine max current for individual loads.
Powerlet offers adaptors from anything to anything, but the Hella/BMW sockets are rated at 30 Amps, the cigar lighter at 10, so I chose to use the Hella for all but my cell/lighter.
Fed the Barrier strip with (2) 10ga wires, from the battery, with 30 A/20 A fuses, inline; no problems in 60K miles, all weather.
GPS plug is wired battery direct, V-1 is on an ignition circuit, the 910's run only with the bike!
Hope this is some help, Terry

[CruisingDog]

I was thinking of getting the Honda Accessory Plug for using an Air Compressor and battery charger. Will it not handle these and should I get the Powerlet plugs instead?

Robert

This is exactly what I did [used a powerlet outlet]. The compressor uses a fairly large current (>2A FWIR). I bought the powerlet under-seat adapter (2 sockets) and a few spare plugs for converting equipment over. I put a plug on the compressor since I didn't want to have to take off tupperware to connect the croc. clips to the battery.

It seems to work well. No fuse blown when I tried it.

I have to admit the powerlet plugs are very well designed. Very easy to connect your 'farkle' to.