Fogging helmet faceshield [Archive]

Tor

12-29-2005, 09:34 PM

Cold early morning commute riding weather, even down here in the swamps of SC. So the first few miles before the inside of the faceshield heats up to reasonable temp, fogging is a problem, especially during red light stops. Has anyone tried any antifog systems, whatever it might be, to avoid this, or at least reduce the fogging? I use a Shoei RF-1000, and even with the breath guard I have a fogging problem during the first 10 or so minutes of the ride. The RF has a feature where you can crack the shield open just a tiny bit, which helps, but when it's cold, I really don't care for the cold air coming in beneath the shield edge. Would appreciate any suggestions.

Mike

12-29-2005, 09:38 PM

Fog City shield or equivalent, works nice.

IntruderCruiser

12-29-2005, 09:40 PM

Zooke appears to do a good job

BC Rider

12-29-2005, 09:59 PM

2nd vote for fog city

http://www.ridemyown.com/articles/reviews/fogcity_fogshield.shtml

nurseBob

12-29-2005, 10:22 PM

I've had good luck with Rain-X antifog. I also keep a ziplock bag in one of the panniers that has a T-shirt remnant saturated with liquid dish soap, which works amazingly well in a pinch. Sure beats spitting on the inside of the face plate.:eek:

Rob Hephner

12-30-2005, 12:51 AM

I use a Foggy!

http://www.southwestrides.com/artman/publish/article_4.shtml

Redeye

12-30-2005, 01:37 AM

Airjohn

12-30-2005, 05:29 AM

Zooke works very well and is inexpensive, about $6 for a small jar. Just put a little on and rub it into the shield and your are good to go.

John
:04biker:

Ken

12-30-2005, 05:31 AM

I use a Foggy!

http://www.southwestrides.com/artman/publish/article_4.shtml
+2 on the Foggy Breather. Works amazingly well, comfortable, and inexpensive. I have mine in a Shoei RF-1000 and it fits perfectly. Use it on early morning commutes when temps are between 40 and 55 farenheit.

Tor

12-30-2005, 06:37 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. It looks like I at least can try the "foggy" first before I continue and try liquid solutions. The stock breath guard I've got installed on the RF-1000 just don't seal around the face (well it really don't seal at all) good enough to be effective. My only concern would be how to get my autocomm mike to fit into the picture. But I'll order the foggy first anyway, and then see if I can route the mike in front of it somehow.

sherob

12-30-2005, 06:40 AM

Cat Crap! :bow1:

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/motorcycle-helmet-visor-anti-fog/

Daryl

12-30-2005, 09:52 AM

Shaving cream - wash visor with it - then rinse off.

Works great.

kingprawnokay

12-30-2005, 10:20 AM

Third vote for Fog City shield!

RxCritical

12-30-2005, 10:54 AM

I've tried progrip antifog visors and fog off liquid. The fog off has to be reapplied often and the visor worked well except for night riding with the light reflection. The best solution I have found is the anti fog visor that came standard with my Soumy helmet. I think the Scorpion helmets also have it and I believe that the new HJC AC-12 is supposed to have one.

Paul

sherob

12-30-2005, 10:58 AM

I think the Scorpion helmets also have it and I believe that the new HJC AC-12 is supposed to have one.

Paul

I'll say my Scorpion never fogs... all I ever do is clean it with warm water or poly lens cleaner. :)

timmybob4

12-30-2005, 11:47 AM

Bought myself a Scorpion for Christmas. The shields are treated to not fog up. This, in combination with the breath guard (and the ample vents when moving), should make for a fog free ride. I have only tested it while sitting on my back porch, so I don't have a real world test yet.

Caveats:
1) The anti-fog treatment lasts for about 2 years. After that you are supposed to replace the shield.
2) From what I hear the anti-fog treatment is only on the clear, light smoke and dark smoke shields. It is not on any of their mirror finish shields.

sherob

12-30-2005, 11:50 AM

2) From what I hear the anti-fog treatment is only on the clear, light smoke and dark smoke shields. It is not on any of their mirror finish shields.

This is true ;)

nisbeam

12-30-2005, 11:56 AM

I have had a number of Shoei lids including a 1000 and I found the Fog-City visor inserts the best. In effect they double-glaze the visor so it wont mist up. Be careful to rinse it gently clean as they can scratch easily. :03biker:

Forgot to add I didnt like the HyperOptix version. It does change with the light but not quickly enough for me as I found they go dark quickly, but do not clear quickly enough. I would not recommend - just my opinion - I know people who think they are great.

Tree

12-30-2005, 01:27 PM

Fog City insert.

You might try 500 Psi from a local dive shop. Never used it on the visor, just in my mask.

Later,

Steve

Pred8tor

12-30-2005, 03:29 PM

You might try 500 Psi from a local dive shop. Never used it on the visor, just in my mask.

I've had guy tell me at a local dive shop that 500 PSI would leave stains on the rubber parts of his mask - even showed me one. I forget what he recommended in it's place, though. I 500 PSI once when I had no choice with no problems - I tried to keep it off the rubber parts, though.

NormanPCN

12-30-2005, 09:08 PM

I'll say my Scorpion never fogs... all I ever do is clean it with warm water or poly lens cleaner. :)

Hmmm, a couple of posts earlier you mentioned using Cat Crap.

NormanPCN

12-31-2005, 12:25 AM

If you have a Shoei helmet then the best is to fit a Shoei Pinlock anti-fog.

I've used them exclusively for about 2 years and they beat all the "stick-on" types like Fog City etc. Over here (UK) we get more than our fair share of wet 'n wild and it's never let me down whatever the temperature or conditions.

It has been announced for US availability. Not sure if you can actually buy one at this instant. Shoei pre-drilled and supposedly do it yourself kits. Pinlock is not a Shoei only thing.

Redeye

12-31-2005, 12:44 AM

It has been announced for US availability. Not sure if you can actually buy one at this instant. Shoei pre-drilled and supposedly do it yourself kits. Pinlock is not a Shoei only thing.

That's correct Norman, quite a few dealers sell kits (including the drill piece) so that you can modify a non Shoei visor to accept a Pinlock.

I'm suprised that they have only just been announced in the US, they've been available in EU for some years now. Seems strange.

http://www.webbikeworld.com/anti-fog-visor/

Ozzy

12-31-2005, 08:01 AM

Fog City is the only solution I have found that works and works and works, the Energizer bunnie of anti-fog.
rainX worked fair, if you dont mind the nice rainbow effect it leaves on sunny days, or the haze or the continual having to retreat.
Smith No-fog cloth, works bettern than Rain-X, easier to carry and use, but same drawbacks as Rain X.

I agree with the Fog City scratching easy. Be very gentle when cleansing, I use a microfiber cloth and warm water with liquid detergent. But isnt that the way you wash your faceshield anyway?

NormanPCN

12-31-2005, 09:30 AM

I'm suprised that they have only just been announced in the US, they've been available in EU for some years now. Seems strange.

Government regs most likely. The US and Euro helmet spec are pretty similar but the face shield would have to be approved and the company would have to go through the process. Maybe the company wanted to build the Euro market before the expense of doing the US market.

stuey

12-31-2005, 10:29 AM

The Fog City and Pinlock system work in exactly the same way both with excellent results, but the Pinlock gets my vote for one reason.
If you ever get water or moisture trapped between the outer visor and your inner shield, which will happen at some point, you can remove the pinlock to clean or dry it of, whereas the Fog City is stuck in.

I've been using the Pinlock for about 3 years now, and it never ever steams up. You can sit at a red light with your visor down in the pissing rain, and it will not steam up. Fantastic.

Stu

Tor

12-31-2005, 12:06 PM

sherob

12-31-2005, 02:16 PM

Hmmm, a couple of posts earlier you mentioned using Cat Crap.

For my Caberg and HJC helmets I own... no need for my Scorpion ;)

Tor

12-31-2005, 03:33 PM

Found it at helmethouse.com. Interesting. Might have to try one. http://www.helmethouse.com/PDF/NEWPRODUCT/pinlock.pdf

DubT

12-31-2005, 04:50 PM

I bought the Fogcity Hyper Optics Light Raective Anti-fog Visor Insert and am very pleasantly surprised at how well it works, no fogging.

www.modernworld.com

DubT

NormanPCN

12-31-2005, 07:24 PM

www.pinlockusa.com
As you can see. They are only just getting going in the USA.

HankSTer

01-01-2006, 03:26 AM

All,

I found out about pinlock in 04. You can pay over seas shipping and get them today for pretty much any helmet. Pinlockusa.com site has been there for well over a year, yes some legal holdups for sure.
Everything I've read makes these sound like a great solution. The 'inserts' come in a variety of colors (Hi def yellow and orange, dark, etc), which means it's possible you'll only own one clear shield, then use insert for appropriate lighting.
Once they get going I think they're gonna be very popular. Hank

ps I think this may be my first post here, I dont have an ST yet, but from all I've read think it's gonna happen pretty soon :) I'll do an intro then.

Burger

01-01-2006, 04:39 AM

If you have a Shoei helmet then the best is to fit a Shoei Pinlock anti-fog.

I've used them exclusively for about 2 years and they beat all the "stick-on" types like Fog City etc. Over here (UK) we get more than our fair share of wet 'n wild and it's never let me down whatever the temperature or conditions.

Another vote for this system... I have this and can't believe how well it works. On a cold damp morning I've seen moisture on the visor all around the anti-fog peice but the peice itself stays as clear as always. Very good system.

Regards,

Tor

01-01-2006, 10:37 AM

Dave, Does this system have to be used on a shield that already has pins on it, or do the pins come with the pinlock system when you buy it?

stuey

01-01-2006, 10:43 AM

If you buy the DIY kit rather than just an insert kit for your helmet, you get a drill bit, templates and 3 pins with the insert. They are quite easy to fit as long as you take you time. The pins actually have eccentric centres so you can alter the position slightly to get the fit and pressure just right.

Stu

Blue STreak

01-01-2006, 08:15 PM

If you're REALLY serious about eliminating fogging, get a Bell Sprint helmet and the heated face shield. Go here, click on Sprint in the left side menu, and then on Heated Shield Kit under accessories:

http://www.bellpowersports.com/index_frame.html?section=open