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Tiny
01-26-2006, 08:17 PM
Well, I'm back in VA with the new :04biker: safely on the ground! I'll give a synopsis of the blessed event and then my first impressions of the bike.

The Buy: Left Richmond VA around 10am on tuesday. Got a late start because I had a buyer for my '94 Vulcan 1500 in Louisville, KY. Trailered that bike there, made a 20 minute smooth-as-silk transaction with a guy I'd never met, and then back on the road. Made it 650 miles before calling it quits for the night about 180 miles short of my destination of St. Louis, MO. Up early and at the dealer by 10:30am. Good thing I got there early or I would never have gotten the deal done that day! There were issues....I'll go into that later on another more detailed thread I plan to call "What Do You Consider an Out-The-Door price to include?"! Bottom line (no pun intended), I paid $12825 OTD (MY definition, not the dealers!), plus a nice new helmet and a Canyon Dancer thrown in to calm me down and coax me out of my moving truck and back into the dealership! Actually, very nice folks there at Donelson's Cycle...we just had a misunderstanding that got a tad heated before they pacified me with farkles! (Did I mention that I almost bought a Triumph Tiger in the mean time? 'Nother story for another day!)

In the mean time....Dan Fitzgerald had arrived and helped mightily in getting me to relax while the paperwork was being re-typed for the 3RD TIME! Great guy....funny, obviously very intelligent, serene, well-spoken and helpful. THANKS, DAN!
The deal got done around 1pm, and Dan and I headed off to lunch....he in a cage and me on my new ride! Only later did we realize the bike had no plates of any kind on it, and there was a cop writing tickets in the front parking lot of the dealership when we pulled out! Great lunch with a new friend, great conversation about much more than bikes, then back to the dealer and onto the trailer with Bluecephalus! He was mildly insulted but I "blindfolded" him with the Canyon Dancer and that made it easier. 20 miles to the Mississipi River where I parked, unloaded, and took a ride around Busch stadium and the Gateway Arch, then across the river and into Illinois (2 more states checked off my ride map!) before loading back up and hitting the road in earnest.
Rode almost to the Indiana/Kentucky border where I once again de-trailered (hey, the straps needed to be readjusted anyway, and Blue was restless!). Forward into Kentucky (2 MORE states on my ride map....I know it's cheating, but there is a special dispensation that applies when you drive 1700 miles round-trip just to buy a certain color motorcycle!), scouting out motels...has anyone but me noticed that fewer and fewer "motels" offer rooms opening directly to the parking lot? Found one, rode BACK to the truck/trailer in Indiana, (all this still with no tags on the bike) and loaded back up. Got back to the Kentuckey motel and made my first (2nd actually, but I'll get back to that) negative discovery about my new STeed: He won't fit through a motel room door! So he stabled on the sidewalk right outside the window with a tow-strap tied around the rear peg, run through the door and tied around the bed frame in the room. I slept with the curtains open, lights on, and a Ruger .357 lying on the bed-side table. No problema.
Yada yada yada....12 inches of snow in West Va, salt covering Bluecephalas ....yada yada....I'm home.

Impressions: Well, I've been riding an 800lb cruiser with 54 horse-power for the last 4 years, so the positive is obvious: WOW!!! This is good! My other Sport-Tourer experiences were an '85 BMW K100RT and a '90 Connie. This bike fits my 6'5", 270 lb frame way better than those did (which I already knew.....hence my 3 year lust for this bike), but obviously I need a new custom seat and risers. I'll rave more at a later date but for now I'll get the negatives out of the way.

1. Mien Gott.....that engine whine is annoying! It's fine while riding but sitting at idle I expect people to come up and ask me if I need assistance! Guess it just takes getting used to.

2. Dan thought I was honking at him in the Applebee's parking lot, but I was trying to work/cancel the turn signal! Ridiculously small switch that is not winter-glove friendly. When Dan got out of his car and walked over, my first question was "Don't these things auto-cancel?" This many bells and whistles and no auto-cancel? Which is important to me and brings us to......

3. I CAN'T SEE THE TURN SIGNALS!! Now granted, bikes just aren't made for the ergonomics of big guys. Nothing is, and I learned long ago to adapt to a "nothing fits" life. But even at night the dash so effectively blocks my view of the turn signals (and the tiny switch is so hard to find) that I have to duck my head and look under the dash to see if I'm riding with a blinker on! Not good. I'm thinking I might try mounting a mirror to the under side of the dash in the hopes that the reflection will enable me to see the blinker on....if not I'll cut and re-trim the dash....but then I know what the next problem will be: Can't read the display in even moderate sunlight. Oh, well.

That's all, folks........I'm tired but happy and can't wait to get out tomorrow and really start to learn this bike. Get ready, I'm sure I'll have a ton of questions! -Kevin

sherob
01-26-2006, 08:26 PM
Make sure you have your display on high... may help. ;) Congrats on your ride... the horny sewing machine whine well grow on you :D

nurseBob
01-26-2006, 08:30 PM
Kevin,


1. Mien Gott.....that engine whine is annoying! It's fine while riding but sitting at idle I expect people to come up and ask me if I need assistance! Guess it just takes getting used to.

It does seem to fade with time. I no longer hear it, except when I ride with other STs.


2. Dan thought I was honking at him in the Applebee's parking lot, but I was trying to work/cancel the turn signal! Ridiculously small switch that is not winter-glove friendly.

Ah!!! I'm not alone in my feeling "winter glove challenged." When the weather turns foul, I really debate regarding going to my weather-proof glove because I find they really don't go well with the turn signal switch. I seem to have a tendency to want both push the switch in and to the right or left, which accomplishes nothing. Very frustrating.

I believe you will find solutions to the irritants. And, for me, that's really all they are, irritants, not deal-breakers. So, regardless of color, enjoy the ride and don't go too fast!:eek:

Tiny
01-26-2006, 09:08 PM
sherob (what's with the Katy in your sig....just say Houston) I'm talking about cutting the whole top of the dash (which they obviously put there to block the sun and make the disply more readable in daylight) out so I can see the top 3rd of the display, which includes the turn-signal indicators.

norton
01-26-2006, 09:14 PM
Tiny, for about one hundred bucks, buy from Kissan a self canceling turn signal solid state five minute plug in piece, you can set it to automatically turn off the blink after various numbers of seconds, this is way cool

sherob
01-26-2006, 09:15 PM
Because I live in the city of Katy, not Houston ;)

Medicine Bear
01-26-2006, 09:19 PM
Because I live in the city of Katy, not Houston ;)

And because that's where Renée Zellweger is from. Don't it make you proud, Rob?

BTW, isn't Houston a suburb of Katy? :D

Fred :03biker:

sherob
01-26-2006, 09:23 PM
And because that's where Renée Zellweger is from. Don't it make you proud, Rob?

BTW, isn't Houston a suburb of Katy? :D

Fred :03biker:

Yep! Isn't part of north Houston a burb of Magnolia? :D

STeve1300
01-26-2006, 09:28 PM
Lots of us have mounted additional signal indicaters (example (http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Lights.html#TurnSignals)). I have a $40 solution ordered and will post if satisfactory.

General consensus seems to be NOT to add a signal self-canceller. Search posts for specific reasons & evaluations.

wishey1
01-26-2006, 09:36 PM
I had my ST for 1500 miles before I realize (by accident) one day
that to cancel the signal, just push the button. I had been trying
to turn off the signal by sliding it back to the middle position and
mostly only succeeded in turning the other side on. LOL

Louie Louie
01-26-2006, 09:39 PM
welcome to you!;)

Tiny
01-26-2006, 09:41 PM
I had my ST for 1500 miles before I realize (by accident) one day
that to cancel the signal, just push the button. I had been trying
to turn off the signal by sliding it back to the middle position and
mostly only succeeded in turning the other side on. LOL

Or honking the horn!:)

Tiny
01-26-2006, 09:43 PM
Lots of us have mounted additional signal indicaters (example (http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Lights.html#TurnSignals)). I have a $40 solution ordered and will post if satisfactory.

General consensus seems to be NOT to add a signal self-canceller. Search posts for specific reasons & evaluations.

THANKS!! I'm not alone!

2005c6
01-26-2006, 09:45 PM
Great report - and congrats on a successful deal.

I thought the engine whine would drive me crazy. Then I realized it's no worse than my wife.....oooops, just kidding! I can honestly say that I don't notice it anymore.

BTW, I live in Taylor Lake Village, TX. Also a suburb of Houston, more commonly know as the "Clear Lake Area".

racer1735
01-26-2006, 09:47 PM
has anyone but me noticed that fewer and fewer "motels" offer rooms opening directly to the parking lot?

Yep. And I go out of my way to find them...generally not along the interstates. But once you find one, I've found that if you are genuinely sincere to the manager, they'll be glad for you to park the bike on the sidewalk, rather than in the parking lot. And, they usually offer up some 'older' towels to clean the bike off with.

sherob
01-26-2006, 09:49 PM
Or honking the horn!:)

For the first day or so, I'd honk the horn when trying to hit the switch... they are closer and smaller than the ones on my old cruiser :o: The worst is doing it under a freeway overpass... scared me more than anything else :rolleyes:

racer1735
01-26-2006, 09:56 PM
You also found what many of us have discovered...that a dealer's 'Out The Door Price' is really nothing more than a 'Get You In the Store Price'. I'm waiting to heare the story of your purchase....how close did you come to pulling the 180-degree turn? Would have been very tough after travelling that far.

Tor
01-26-2006, 09:57 PM
sherob (what's with the Katy in your sig....just say Houston) I'm talking about cutting the whole top of the dash (which they obviously put there to block the sun and make the disply more readable in daylight) out so I can see the top 3rd of the display, which includes the turn-signal indicators. Uhh, can't see the turnsignals? I am 6'2", and got my seat in middle position. Ya must have....... a fairly .........long torso, and stubby legs.....just pickin' man, Congrates, glad you made the trip home ok. Let tha farklin' begin.

Tiny
01-26-2006, 10:11 PM
You also found what many of us have discovered...that a dealer's 'Out The Door Price' is really nothing more than a 'Get You In the Store Price'. I'm waiting to heare the story of your purchase....how close did you come to pulling the 180-degree turn? Would have been very tough after travelling that far.

I was in my truck waiting for traffic to clear in order to pull out when he ran up and tapped on my window. In this case, there was indeed a very honest mis-communication....but I got insulted by the fact that he thought I would drive 800 miles to pay the amount they had down on paper for a 2 year out of date bike. I had back-up options on the route home ( I knew I was returning home with an ST in tow) and he didn't know that I would have been willing to pay '06 price for a new :04biker: !

Tiny
01-26-2006, 10:14 PM
Uhh, can't see the turnsignals? I am 6'2", and got my seat in middle position. Ya must have....... a fairly .........long torso, and stubby legs.....just pickin' man, Congrates, glad you made the trip home ok. Let tha farklin' begin.

36" inseam, so I'm pretty much equally devided between legs and the rest. Maybe I have a long neck!

tccox
01-27-2006, 06:48 AM
Congrats, a great motorcycle.. I actually grown to love the "Whine" Sorta mkaes the bike a bit more unique. And besides, I just tell folks its the twin turbochargers making the racket.

nm6r
01-27-2006, 10:53 AM
Good job Tiny. You will be very happy with your new ST.

BTW, I hear blue is the fastest.

Ray
http://www.frontiernet.net/~st1300rider/smile04Bikerwheelie.gif

racer1735
01-27-2006, 11:02 AM
I would tend to agree that Blue is fastest, as that's whats in my garage. But, looking at nm6r's avatar, I'd say Red is pretty fast, too!

Medicine Bear
01-27-2006, 11:21 AM
Yep! Isn't part of north Houston a burb of Magnolia? :D

Not yet but it's getting close!!! :mad:

Fred :03biker:

CrashTestDanny
01-27-2006, 01:40 PM
Congratzz on a safe trip home, Tiny - great to meet you!

Glad you managed to get the color you wanted.

I love that LEDs in the mirrors trick that someone posted a link to - even at my relatively short stature I sometimes can't see my signals if I'm in an aggressive stance. I think I'm going to do something like that!

As for the sewing machine whine, when someone first told me I should look at the ST, I asked 'do those V-4s still whine like the early 80's silver wings? Yeah - they do... but I got used to it after a few weeks and you won't find a better Sport-Touring bike than the ST. I haven't found anyone on the roads that my ST can't keep up with all day long.

A few bikes will outrun us on straight runs, but only until they get into the twisties or have to stop for gas.

Hope to see you in Moonshine!

STeveGray
01-27-2006, 01:59 PM
Great report - and congrats on a successful deal.

I thought the engine whine would drive me crazy. Then I realized it's no worse than my wife.....oooops, just kidding! I can honestly say that I don't notice it anymore.

OK Jim. You need to be a bit more specific. You don't notice "it" anymore. Would that be the whine from your wife or the whine from the ST? Or both? :D

Pred8tor
01-27-2006, 03:52 PM
The whine reminds me of the turbine whine of a fighter jet... music to my ears!

CrashTestDanny
01-27-2006, 04:05 PM
OK Jim. You need to be a bit more specific. You don't notice "it" anymore. Would that be the whine from your wife or the whine from the ST? Or both? :D

Man, I was thinking the same thing! How's the smuggling career going?

Tiny
01-27-2006, 08:07 PM
Sorry state for a brand new bike....snow sucks!

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b138/94bubf/100_0388.jpg

Towjam
02-20-2006, 09:31 AM
BTW, I hear blue is the fastest. I had forgotten how classy the ST looks in blue - until I passed one the other day.

:p: