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tdeboeser
02-01-2006, 01:07 PM
Hi,
I was looking to get Oxtar's Matrix Boot, but then I noticed the Explorer boots. The only thing I can see different is that maybe the Explorer may have some mesh.
Is the Matrix the boot to get? What differences are there besides full coverage vs. mesh?

thanks,

Tom de

BC Rider
02-01-2006, 01:45 PM
upper on explorer seems to be "suede and dupont cordura" vs the matrix which is "full grain leather".

My sense is that explorer might be better in warm weather. My matrix can get a bit warm in the summer.

sherob
02-01-2006, 01:54 PM
Matrix is water proof too, trust me on that one :rolleyes:

crazykz
02-01-2006, 02:23 PM
Sorry I can't speak for the Explorer but I love my Matrix boots. Comfortable even to walk in and waterproof.

Curt

texxter
02-01-2006, 03:15 PM
Oxtar Matrix are excellent boots - some of us have the Infinity, which is a somewhat of a cross-over between street and off-road, taller and a bit sturdier than the Matrix. They cost about the same, discounted.

http://www.st-owners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7482&highlight=oxtar+infinity

BrianB
02-01-2006, 05:47 PM
The Matrix boot, does it fit true to size? I would like to order a pair from new enough but can't find any where to try a pair on. They are all special order up here in Canada, and of course full retail:eek: I am a little gun shy of internet orders as I got a bit burned last year. I ordered what I thought was the right size, and when it was not it became cost prohibitive to exchange, so I was stuck. I wear a 9 1/2 street shoe, how does that compare to others who have these boots?
Brian
STOC#4151

crazykz
02-01-2006, 06:23 PM
They fit a little big which was fine by me because it gives a little extra room for thicker socks.

Curt

Carl_T
02-01-2006, 07:01 PM
Matrix, great boot.

U-Turn
02-01-2006, 07:01 PM
I've had mine for about a month, and I like them a lot. I wear size 11...the Matrix boot size 45(11 equivalent) fits me perfectly. Ordered from New Enough. I would certainly buy them again. :)

BC Rider
02-01-2006, 07:10 PM
Brian:

Just some FYI from a fellow Canuck.

I got my Oxtar Matrix boots from NewEnough.com who are once again shipping to Canada. At that time they were selling for U$139.00 a good deal less than what I could pick up boots for here.



Got my FirstGear overpants at the same place. No problems.

I have found NewEnough.com's comments about sizing to be accurate.

I wear 10.5 to 11 shoes. Got the 45 to be safe - plenty of room and my feet are wide and high instep. I would have been fine with the 44s as well.

So far I have had good luck with Internet suppliers. Early on I got burned by UPS, but learned that if a supplier ships USPS then you are OK. I don't use suppliers who only ship UPS as UPS burns you for "brokerage" fees.

number9
02-01-2006, 08:52 PM
I bought a pair of the Oxtar Matrix last year and sent them back because they just didn't feel sturdy (protective) enough for me. I am used to wearing Sidi Vert2 race boots on the R6 and the Matrix didn't feel right to me. NOT knocking the Matrix at all as lots of guys love them, they just weren't for me. I ordered a pair of Oxtar Infinity and absolutely love them, very comfy and beefy/sturdy feeling boot and the soles grip concrete and pavement like a pair of tennies compared to my Sidi Vert2's. Both pair of boots were ordered from Newenough.com with great service - hard to beat those guys in my book.

LDMike
02-01-2006, 10:40 PM
I have the Explorers and the Infinity boots and love them both. The Explorer is more a "summer boot" although I've been comfortable down to low 30s with them. They are indeed waterproof and I've never had wet feet even in heavy downpour.

I wear an 8-1/2 American shoe and the 41 European fits me perfectly.

The Infinity boot is much taller (3" ??) and appears to be warmer, but at this time of the year, that's a plus. I think it will be pretty warm in the summer, so the Explorers are still an option for me.

Both offer good protection for ankles and shins, are well made and will withstand some abuse. Both are comfortable off the bike as well.

YMMV and the usual disclaimers.

LDMike
Milwaukee

tdeboeser
02-02-2006, 07:43 AM
Thanks guys. Some good info here.... ummm my boot will be my only set so maybe the Matrix is my best choice.

Tom de

Northern Rob
02-02-2006, 08:57 AM
Brian:

Just some FYI from a fellow Canuck.

I got my Oxtar Matrix boots from NewEnough.com who are once again shipping to Canada. At that time they were selling for U$139.00 a good deal less than what I could pick up boots for here.



Got my FirstGear overpants at the same place. No problems.

I have found NewEnough.com's comments about sizing to be accurate.

I wear 10.5 to 11 shoes. Got the 45 to be safe - plenty of room and my feet are wide and high instep. I would have been fine with the 44s as well.

So far I have had good luck with Internet suppliers. Early on I got burned by UPS, but learned that if a supplier ships USPS then you are OK. I don't use suppliers who only ship UPS as UPS burns you for "brokerage" fees.

Ditto. Canuck, Matrix, NewEnough...it's good

tdeboeser
02-15-2006, 07:45 AM
Thanks for the info guys. I my Oxtars from http://www.motorcyclecloseouts.com/, for 168.00 delivered.
This is my second purchase from them and it was a good experiance. I didn't get an email after purchase but I did get timly response when I emailed them about not getting an email. They say I should have.

Anyway the boots showed up and they are very nice.

I do have a question tho, will they break in? Or do I need to move my **** leaver?

Thanks again,

Tom de
PS - I like newenough also, good people there.

Kempo-STer
02-15-2006, 07:48 AM
Anyone with wide feet??

My new balance sneakers are 11 1/2 EEEE. I am way overdue for some new boots..

tdeboeser
02-15-2006, 08:08 AM
Anyone with wide feet??

My new balance sneakers are 11 1/2 EEEE. I am way overdue for some new boots..

Wow, I wouldn't want to be kicked by those :D.

Tom de

Kempo-STer
02-15-2006, 08:17 AM
Wow, I wouldn't want to be kicked by those :D.

Tom de


Hee hee...
You know what they say about big hands and big feet..

...big gloves and big shoes...;)

I could follow this with something really funny like and I am hung like a hockey puck but that would too flattering as well LOL..

Someone better get a laugh out of this...

Blrfl
02-15-2006, 08:49 AM
I do have a question tho, will they break in? Or do I need to move my **** leaver?

Wear 'em to work for a week or two and use the stairs instead of the elevator. They're real nice when broken in.

--Mark

Killtimer
02-15-2006, 08:51 AM
I do have a question tho, will they break in? Or do I need to move my **** leaver?

Thanks again,

Tom de
PS - I like newenough also, good people there.

I know what you meant....... but I've gotta ask. Is the **** leaver on the left or right side of the bike. :) Ditto on the Newenough comments.

rwl1955
02-15-2006, 08:55 AM
Anyone with wide feet??

My new balance sneakers are 11 1/2 EEEE. I am way overdue for some new boots..
****
My New Balance are 11EE. That`s my question also. How are the boots for wide feet?

Bones
02-15-2006, 09:31 AM
On the other end of the width scale you find my skinny feet. I like the Oxtar Matrix boots based on good write ups and positive reports from riders, but the standard width is too wide for me and there's no narrow width.

That they seem wider than typical may bode well for you, Kempo San.

tdeboeser
02-15-2006, 09:48 AM
I know what you meant....... but I've gotta ask. Is the **** leaver on the left or right side of the bike. :) Ditto on the Newenough comments.

Opps, mine is on the left...

:eek:
:a13:
:crackup

Tom de

CrashTestDanny
02-15-2006, 09:58 AM
****
My New Balance are 11EE. That`s my question also. How are the boots for wide feet?

My NB tennies (976) are 10EE and I'm wearing Oxtar Matrix 43s as I type this. Been wearing them all week to break them in (not when I go to bed though). The people at newenough.com were extremely helpful in selecting the right size.

Killtimer
02-15-2006, 10:14 AM
I've noticed a bit of difference between Euro -> NA sizing during this discussion so I did some checking. It appears that there's a 1/2 to 1 (depending on the chart you use) size difference between UK and US sizing. Is the Canadian standard US or UK? My experience of size 9 to a Euro 43 in 3 pair of boots would lead me to believe that ours are UK sizes.