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I also have a 55 mile commute and was very pleased when I got 49 mpg recently (I also recorded 52 another time but not on commute). That's about 5 mpg better than I usually get with my 750!
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Octane requirement is a function of engine compression ratio, why would it matter if it were carbureted or fuel injected?I ran a few months on 93 octane (blue dots) to see if I saw a difference in MPG. No significant difference observed, and none was really expected on a carbureted engine.
It's also a function of spark timing. On FI engines (with computers), timing can be automatically advanced without knocking using a higher octane, which generally gets you more efficiency at higher RPM's. Carb'd engines generally have a fixed timing range that is independent of octane and knocking.Octane requirement is a function of engine compression ratio, why would it matter if it were carbureted or fuel injected?
The last two places I went to that offered 'pure' gas had those pumps closed off, i.e. they were out. Not sure if this is a trend or just my bad luck.IMHO, there are a lot of good suggestions above.
Does the rear and front wheel spin easily on the center stand and with the front wheel raised ?
Also, you could run some carb cleaner with the next few tanks of gas.
Try some non-ethanol gas and see if that improves your mileage.
All engines advance/retard timing, but computerized FI systems are more flexible and precise, and have knock sensors, I'll grant you that. Higher compression ratios are more efficient inherently (if you read a theoretical analysis of engine design, compression is the main variable that improves efficiency, in theory). I think what's improved over the years with electronic FI systems, is they can avoid knocking on lower octane fuels than would normally be usable at a given compression ratio. So I think the benefit of modern electronic FI systems goes the opposite way to what you described.It's also a function of spark timing. On FI engines (with computers), timing can be automatically advanced without knocking using a higher octane, which generally gets you more efficiency at higher RPM's. Carb'd engines generally have a fixed timing range that is independent of octane and knocking.
At least that's how I understand it.
I guess I've always assumed that the engine advance curves were already setup to optimize performance for general street use, and that the fuel grade was used as your 'knock sensor' to operate at maximum advance without knocking, but I don't know for sure either. I have no idea if any power gain was available simply due to additional timing advance by being able to operate right at the threshold of knocking, so I wouldn't try to argue that point either way.I've always assumed that the higher efficiency of advancing the timing to the edge of knock outweighed other variables but that certainly may be wrong.
Could very well be true... my experience with all this stuff goes back quite a few years, i.e. I may be living a bit in the past.I guess I've always assumed that the engine advance curves were already setup to optimize performance for general street use, and that the fuel grade was used as your 'knock sensor' to operate at maximum advance without knocking, but I don't know for sure either. I have no idea if any power gain was available simply due to additional timing advance by being able to operate right at the threshold of knocking, so I wouldn't try to argue that point either way.
Agreed 100%. To add to that, I would say airflow improvement overall (in and out) has been a major factor in power gains over the years. Add in FI and computer control of spark and fuel delivery and now we can easily get 100hp out of a 1 liter motor that runs on 87 octane for 200k miles. Pretty impressive when you think back to the 70's & 80's cars compared to what we get today.I suspect the main power gains have been the result of better airflow through the cylinders, ...