Far more limited than that I believe - some of Europe, Canada seems to be it.All they're selling in the U.S. this year is the police model. Everywhere else (including Canada, I think) has a 2014 model.
--Mark
The 2014 ST I looked at a few months ago was manufactured in late 2103 - so a legitimate 2014 model bike ... assuming they didn't fudge with the VIN sticker.Honda has done this before, they don't bring a new model into the market when there are un-sold bikes sitting in dealerships. Especially if there are no changes.................
It is unfortunate for the buyers too. I purchased a 2012 model brand new in Feb 2014. I called to get a trade in quote as my wife cant ride on the ST any more due to a recent medical issue. I was looking to get a Wing as it has more support for her. I was told that my bike is a 2012 and is only valued at approximately 8500. So I will not be able to get the wing until I pay off this bike.Honda has done this before, they don't bring a new model into the market when there are un-sold bikes sitting in dealerships. Especially if there are no changes.................
Does that suggest that ST1300 sales are slowing down in the American market?...they don't bring a new model into the market when there are un-sold bikes sitting in dealerships.
There's no suggesting that; it's pretty much confirmed that ST sales have been declining since the model was introduced. I've kept track of the production of U.S. models based on information that Honda has to supply when they notify NHTSA of a recall. In 2011, there were no STs produced for the U.S. because there were lots of leftover 2010s, so the best you can do for that number is split it across two years.Does that suggest that ST1300 sales are slowing down in the American market?
Thanks for that. I've always wondered what sales are like in Europe, which really always was the target market.
This is just speculation, but it seems that they would build them in runs of several thousand, then re-model the line for another bike model. They wouldn't need to do another run until the ones on hand were shipped.Does that suggest that ST1300 sales are slowing down in the American market?
Does anyone know if annual sales figures for different types of motorcycles (e.g. the ST 1300) are published? I know that such figures are published for Honda automobiles.
Michael
I'm not certain that that rationale would necessarily apply to the resale value of the ST down the road. The resale market for STs is rather narrow, and I think that most prospective purchasers would be aware of the 'on and off' import history of the bike. That being the case, the month and date of first registration (when the bike was first put on the road) would, I think, be a better measure of the value of the bike than the model year of the bike. In this context, I am assuming that the resale buyer is paying cash and therefore is not affected by lenders who will issue opinions based on industry-standard depreciation percentages per model year....Why would anyone pay 15k for a bike that would instantly lose 5k in value as soon as you sign the papers?
I wonderr what insurance companies would think of payout for a three year old "new" bike or what trade in value would be on that Hondapotamous you might want in a year or two........I think you'd lose a lot of money......:tc1:..........ffnot affected by lenders who will issue opinions based on industry-standard depreciation percentages per model year.
It may be different in Toronto and Zurich but in the US a 2012 will be viewed as a 3 year old bike as soon as you drive it off the lot.I'm not certain that that rationale would necessarily apply to the resale value of the ST down the road. The resale market for STs is rather narrow, and I think that most prospective purchasers would be aware of the 'on and off' import history of the bike. That being the case, the month and date of first registration (when the bike was first put on the road) would, I think, be a better measure of the value of the bike than the model year of the bike. In this context, I am assuming that the resale buyer is paying cash and therefore is not affected by lenders who will issue opinions based on industry-standard depreciation percentages per model year.
Michael
Also in the rest of the world date/year of first registration and of course the mileage establish the prices for used/2nd hand vehicles...It may be different in Toronto and Zurich...
Also in the rest of the world date/year of first registration and of course the mileage establish the prices for used/2nd hand vehicles...
It is different in Europe, as Martin B. has pointed out in his post. Vehicle age is determined by date of first registration, not by date of manufacture. Canada, on the other hand, works the same as the USA.It may be different in Toronto and Zurich...