1997 ST1100: model identification for front brake lines

Hi


I have a P reg (1997 registered) ST1100T (according to frame sticker)


I've found a complete set of reasonably priced stainless brake lines from a UK dealer on ebay. The only thing is he advertises a set for an ST1100 1992 and a set for an ST1100 L-2 1990 -02. Both sets have different part numbers and the dealer states he doesn't know enough about the bike to advise.

Bit confused here as I though the only difference in the brake lines for ST1100 models was between ABS and non ABS.

Can anyone un-muddy the waters.

Thanks

I searched for 'ST1100 L-2 1990 -02 brake' and found that string.
The set that looks right to me for your (and would be the same for mine) is at LINK.

I looks like the L-2 has 3 bake lines in the kit and the "Honda ST1100 Non ABS (1992-)" has 2 lines. I only used 2 on my '01 non-abs.
I don't know where the third line would go unless they are including it for the clutch(?)...

Good luck.
Mark

Fentible said:

Bit confused here as I though the only difference in the brake lines for ST1100 models was between ABS and non ABS.

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Actually are there 3 models around:
- non ABS, '90 to '00 ('02 in the US)
- ABS-I/TCS, '92 to '94
- ABS-II/CBS, '96 to '00 ('02 in the US)

You might find some clues by entering the VIN at this site: http://www.cmsnl.com/
Just select [Honda] in the left window, the VIN code field will appear automatically.

If it really is an ST1100PT, it would be a '96, non-ABS police spec as shown here: http://www.bike-parts-honda.com/moto-honda-identification-ST1100PT-8419.html

It could however have happened that the fleet workshop had modified a "civil" bike to a P-spec, so i.e. an ST1100AT with strobe holders and rear gantry...
So I'd check on the fiche of the bike-parts link I gave and compare your brake system with that (or post some photos here, so we can eyeball and ID them ;-) )

The 2-line kits usually have 2 long lines that go from the master cylinder to the brake caliper. 3-line kits have a single line that goes from mc to a "splitter", then 2 lines from splitter to calipers. Not sure what ABS bike has.

I replaced my original 3-line oem setup with a 2-line bss kit. Many say that there is better feel with the 2 line. Difficult to tell when I went from 3-line rubber to 2-line bss, but we'll worth the investment! Braking is much improved!

sirepair said:

worth the investment! Braking is much improved!

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I changed to SS in '01 on my '01 and can not agree more!

Thank you for the replies. The kits I am looking at are full brake hose kits and both kits comprise 3 front lines and 2 rear lines. Links here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wezmoto-Standard-Braided-Brake-Lines-Honda-ST1100-L-2-Pan-European-Non-ABS-90-02-/141063143658?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20d804c0ea


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wezmoto-Standard-Braided-Brake-Lines-Honda-ST1100-Non-ABS-1992-/130993082377?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e7fcbd009


If you check them out the kits both have different part numbers, hence my confusion. I'll check my VIN on the CSMNL link though.

(Tells me it's a 1996 ST1100)

Fentible said:

Thank you for the replies. The kits I am looking at are full brake hose kits and both kits comprise 3 front lines and 2 rear lines. Links here

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wezmoto-Standard-Braided-Brake-Lines-Honda-ST1100-L-2-Pan-European-Non-ABS-90-02-/141063143658?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item20d804c0ea

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wezmoto-Standard-Braided-Brake-Lines-Honda-ST1100-Non-ABS-1992-/130993082377?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item1e7fcbd009

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I'd contact the seller on this...
Weird as he offers one set for [non-ABS '90 to '02] and the other for [non-ABS '92 up]... doesn't make sense... non-ABS are identically build across all years...
I could only assume that the ['92 up] *could* in real be for the ABS-I/TCS... (which was launched '92)

I tried that, unfortunately he came back stating he wasn't familiar with the model and therefore couldn't advise. I think I'll take a shot on the 90-02 kit on the basis that he is prepared to swap although I really can't see why they won't fit.

Would the ABS-I/TCS kit not contain additional hoses and therefore cost more??

Fentible said:

Would the ABS-I/TCS kit not contain additional hoses and therefore cost more??

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Possible due to the more complicated plumbing, but I'm not too familiar with that model (should get me one though...)

Fentible said:

... I have a P reg (1997 registered) ST1100T (according to frame sticker) ... Can anyone un-muddy the waters? Thanks

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Fentible, whenever dealing with Honda or describing your bike to a parts dealer, I suggest you take the words "P reg (1997 registered)" and pitch them into the nearest muddy waters. Focus instead on the word "ST1100T" which is from Honda. If a "year" is asked for, decode that letter T into model year 1996. (The letter P is used by Honda as both a year code for 1993 and an abbreviation for Police, neither of which applies to your Pan.)

ST1100Y said:

... If it really is an ST1100PT, it would be a '96, non-ABS Police spec ...

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You see, you have unintentionally sent even member ST1100Y glancing down the wrong path, which is something I have rarely seen him do.

ST1100Y said:

... You might find some clues by entering the VIN at this site: http://www.cmsnl.com/ ....

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Fentible said:

... I'll check my VIN on the CSMNL link though. (Tells me it's a 1996 ST1100.)

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There you go; well done; you've put us all back onto the correct non police path!
Your VIN should agree with those found at the head of this ST1100T parts list:
http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-st1100-pan-european-1996-england_model4791/partslist/
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Further, optional reading on year codes and such:
http://www.my-mc-phoenix.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13428&start=70
which is the last page of the thread, but it is where T models like Fentible's are discussed (starting with the post dated 09 Feb 2015, 00:59).