I have been using oem oil and filter. 10W30
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It is hard to find a non motorcycle branded 10w30 that is not labeled Resource Conserving. That label would indicate no compatibility with a wet clutch so pay attention to the container markings. I think you would have better luck with a 10w40 or 15w40 not labeled Resource Conserving, both of which are listed as OK for the ST1300 in the service manual.I've always use Amsoil Full synthetic, but at $15.00 a quart, good by! Chevron 10-30 here I come.
I ended up biting the bullet and using the Amsoil.It is hard to find a non motorcycle branded 10w30 that is not labeled Resource Conserving. That label would indicate no compatibility with a wet clutch so pay attention to the container markings. I think you would have better luck with a 10w40 or 15w40 not labeled Resource Conserving, both of which are listed as OK for the ST1300 in the service manual.
I just did some extensive research on the FJR and other forums and ended up choosing Rotella T 15w-40. Non-energy conserving and a couple of other bonuses. It's closer to the viscosity recommended for most bikes. It also has JASO MA on the bottle which means it's OK for motorcycle clutches. It's hasn't been formally test for JASO MA, but Shell guarantees it to exceed the testing standards. Another good oil is the Mobil Delvac 1300. Same characteristics as the Rotella T, but doesn't have any JASO rating. It's been used all across a lot of various motorcycle forums.
You know you could also make that in miles and the oil is still in good shape. The big diesels don't go near that interval (via hours), some ST's are running 16000 km, I personally go for the 13k interval.6000 km
I found that and switched to Delo last year. Don't have enough miles on it yet to give it a thumbs-up or thumbs-down.Some find the t6 causes notchy shifting after it wears a little.
I will give that a confirmation, IMO.Some find the t6 causes notchy shifting after it wears a little.
I found that and switched to Delo last year. Don't have enough miles on it yet to give it a thumbs-up or thumbs-down.
--Mark
After what wears a little? The bike or the oil? I have about 4000 on my first T6 oil change. Bike has about 11,000. I got it the bike used with about 7,000 miles. Seems OK. Transmission or something in there is a bit noisy at stop lights in neutral. Clutch in quiet.Some find the t6 causes notchy shifting after it wears a little.
I'm pretty sure he means the oil.After what wears a little? The bike or the oil?
Jim, a low pitched rumble from the engine when in neutral and idling is normal and nothing to worry about. It's not related to the oil in use. On the thread topic..... I'm like some others here. In my use conditions, Rotella or Mobil 5w-40 synthetic results in shifting getting a little notchy by 3 or 4,000 miles and I'd feel like changing it long before it actually needed it. And I used it a lot, not just an oil change or three. At some point I added all the oils and miles in use and I think I recall using Rotella 5w-40 for about 70,000 miles. So anyway I'd be paying 50% more for it compared to RotellaT 15w40 which seems to give the same feel until I change it at 5 or 6,000 miles. I just never have been able to go 8,000 miles. I know Honda says I can and plenty of us do it but I prefer not to. The 15w40 oils by Shell and Chevron (Rotella and Delo 400) just feel better to me in my bike and at 160,000 miles I'm settled in to what works well for me. When I took the cross country trip I went back to Mobile 1 MC oil because I thought I might go to 10,000 miles w/o a change and a full synthetic would worry me less. Otherwise it's a 15w40 for me, generally RotellaT, with a change at 5,000 miles or so.After what wears a little? The bike or the oil? I have about 4000 on my first T6 oil change. Bike has about 11,000. I got it the bike used with about 7,000 miles. Seems OK. Transmission or something in there is a bit noisy at stop lights in neutral. Clutch in quiet.
BTW not arguing the point, just trying to learn some.
Yeah the oil. Presumably after it shears a little. The clutch rattle is normal never noticed if oil brand effects it much. I have the dyno rotella in there since it was cheap and I was planning a quick oil change after fixing the crank bolt and installing new clutch springs. Probably ought to do that this week. T6 will go back in only because I have a jug. After that might try something else.After what wears a little? The bike or the oil? I have about 4000 on my first T6 oil change. Bike has about 11,000. I got it the bike used with about 7,000 miles. Seems OK. Transmission or something in there is a bit noisy at stop lights in neutral. Clutch in quiet.
BTW not arguing the point, just trying to learn some.
Thanks Dave. My bike is doing everything very well for now but I will wait and see. I don't do many miles so oil changes are a seasonal thing for me.Jim, a low pitched rumble from the engine when in neutral and idling is normal and nothing to worry about. It's not related to the oil in use. On the thread topic..... I'm like some others here. In my use conditions, Rotella or Mobil 5w-40 synthetic results in shifting getting a little notchy by 3 or 4,000 miles and I'd feel like changing it long before it actually needed it. And I used it a lot, not just an oil change or three. At some point I added all the oils and miles in use and I think I recall using Rotella 5w-40 for about 70,000 miles. So anyway I'd be paying 50% more for it compared to RotellaT 15w40 which seems to give the same feel until I change it at 5 or 6,000 miles. I just never have been able to go 8,000 miles. I know Honda says I can and plenty of us do it but I prefer not to. The 15w40 oils by Shell and Chevron (Rotella and Delo 400) just feel better to me in my bike and at 160,000 miles I'm settled in to what works well for me. When I took the cross country trip I went back to Mobile 1 MC oil because I thought I might go to 10,000 miles w/o a change and a full synthetic would worry me less. Otherwise it's a 15w40 for me, generally RotellaT, with a change at 5,000 miles or so.