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- Thread starter Bowtie
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lol...Aw, C'mon Bush, if he doesn't, you already know I wouldNew guy looking to start something here?
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- 12/04 ST 1300s
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Don't listen to them, I've used K&N Air Filters for years. And unlike most here, I was able to put them in without having dirt get passed them!
how did you manage that when you can't even tighten your caliper bolts? Probably left the air filter cover off and haven't noticed it yet.
I wana break in my pot stirrin' stick here...
I've been riding & fixing Hondas since 1974.
Honda designs do NOT need to be changed or improved in any way.
Also, it's against my religion to use aftermarket parts on Honda motor vehicles.
I use 100% OEM parts. I want my Honda's to be 100% pure!
I've been riding & fixing Hondas since 1974.
Honda designs do NOT need to be changed or improved in any way.
Also, it's against my religion to use aftermarket parts on Honda motor vehicles.
I use 100% OEM parts. I want my Honda's to be 100% pure!
Similar here. All OEM parts EXCEPT filters and fluids...although I never cared for the oily air filters. Just personal preference/opinion, nothing more. I DID install an aftermarket top box right after I bought my 1991...couldn't locate a suitable Honda box at the time. It's just not convenient to secure a helmet anywhere on this bike. Top box makes that easy.I wana break in my pot stirrin' stick here...
I've been riding & fixing Hondas since 1974.
Honda designs do NOT need to be changed or improved in any way.
Also, it's against my religion to use aftermarket parts on Honda motor vehicles.
I use 100% OEM parts. I want my Honda's to be 100% pure!
I use Volar Kevlar replacement brake pads. Just as good or better than OEM and only $16 for a complete set - front & rear ( with shipping ). And I have a set of Raider clutch friction plates that I got off EBay ( cheap ) that I plan to install next spring. Does that make me a heathan ?? But I confess that I will be installing OEM Honda clutch springs.I wana break in my pot stirrin' stick here...
I've been riding & fixing Hondas since 1974.
Honda designs do NOT need to be changed or improved in any way.
Also, it's against my religion to use aftermarket parts on Honda motor vehicles.
I use 100% OEM parts. I want my Honda's to be 100% pure!
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Oh, so mean! In 270,000 miles I leave two bolts loose, due to a MAJOR distraction and I have to live with that for the rest of my life? Sheesh, no slack at all!
On the brighter side, I'm off for a ride for the weekend! See you on the otherside of 1,200 miles at least! Hahahahaha!
If that was true, there would be no need for ANY FARKLEs! Sorry, Honda might make a great product, but there is always room for improvement!Also, it's against my religion to use aftermarket parts on Honda motor vehicles.
I use 100% OEM parts. I want my Honda's to be 100% pure!
And if you are not using the stock Honda Saddles, then you just blew a hole in your own theory!
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Its a K&N thread, thought I'd try to stir up some trouble.Oh, so mean! In 270,000 miles I leave two bolts loose, due to a MAJOR distraction and I have to live with that for the rest of my life? Sheesh, no slack at all!
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Yeah, of course you were,....lol
FWIW, I've never used anything but a K&N in any bike I've ever owned for over 35 years. We're on the same page there, so I had to pick on you for something else.
John OoSTerhuis
Life Is Good!
Probably no real performance increase. Many of us have run the K&N filter on our ST1100s for many years, instead of the Honda stock filter ($$$), but only to save money. In any case, unless you have certified dyno readings, "it didn't happen."
Care to share at leaST a firST name with us? And where in Iowa do you live?
Regards, John
I replaced the stock oiled foam cleaners on my 82 VF750S years ago with K&N units. Had no choice. The stock filters disintegrated after only 22 years of service. Local dealership had the K&Ns sitting in a bargain box so I picked them up cheap. They were odd little trapezoidal shaped things. One for the left side, one for the right. They worked great for remaining time we had together. Didn't think there was any great increase in performance though. Sometime if you look hard enough, you do find the improvement. I repaired the side cover on the Sabre and thought is was riding better.
I think that "FARKLES" are an unnecessary distraction that dilutes Honda quality (which is OUTSTANDING).Oh, so mean! In 270,000 miles I leave two bolts loose, due to a MAJOR distraction and I have to live with that for the rest of my life? Sheesh, no slack at all!
On the brighter side, I'm off for a ride for the weekend! See you on the otherside of 1,200 miles at least! Hahahahaha!
If that was true, there would be no need for ANY FARKLEs! Sorry, Honda might make a great product, but there is always room for improvement!
And if you are not using the stock Honda Saddles, then you just blew a hole in your own theory!
I've been called a "purist." I think it's just a matter of personal preference.
The only two bikes I've owned in 36 years of riding that had headshake were both Hondas. The total number of Hondas I've owned that didn't have headshake is zero. After I diluted the Honda quality with different steering stem bearings on my ST1100, the headshake went away.I think that "FARKLES" are an unnecessary distraction that dilutes Honda quality (which is OUTSTANDING).
I've been called a "purist." I think it's just a matter of personal preference.
We could also talk about the legendary Comstar stamped tinfoil wheels that would bend out of true just by the gravitational force of the moon, but we'll leave that for another thread.
P.O. installed the K&N on my '93. Last year, I put a Honda Civic style paper filter in (cross-over info from ST-Riders.net), with a foam ring to make up the slight height difference, and ended up with her falling on her face in the mid-range. Didn't take long to clean the K&N and get it back in there!
I have no problems with using aftermarket parts. EBC pads and rotors (yep, after 168,000 miles, the original ones were worn out), BSS brake lines, Hella head light bulbs, several different brands of oil filters, fork seals, O-rings, and "Dark Side" on the rear. Honda is not the only company that makes quality parts!
I used to work for a Honda tier 1 auto supplier, and know how maticulous they are. But when I priced a wheel lug which we paid about $0.28 for and Ma Honda retailed for $6.50, well I know they are making BIG MONEY on their parts.
I have no problems with using aftermarket parts. EBC pads and rotors (yep, after 168,000 miles, the original ones were worn out), BSS brake lines, Hella head light bulbs, several different brands of oil filters, fork seals, O-rings, and "Dark Side" on the rear. Honda is not the only company that makes quality parts!
I used to work for a Honda tier 1 auto supplier, and know how maticulous they are. But when I priced a wheel lug which we paid about $0.28 for and Ma Honda retailed for $6.50, well I know they are making BIG MONEY on their parts.
Check out the OEM Yamaha part prices if you think the Honda OEM parts are expensive. I did for the FJR1300 when I was comparing a ST1300 to the FJR. I probably shouldn't point this out, Mother Honda may raise her prices.
I've been doing motorcycle repairs since 1974. Many years ago, I worked as a motorcycle mechanic at a Yamaha / BMW dealer. I've used both OEM and aftermarket parts on Hondas over the past several decades. Today I use only OEM parts on Honda motorcycles. I've had much better results with OEM parts vs. aftermarket parts. I no longer question Mother Honda. To use anything but OEM parts on a Honda vehicle you are saying that you know better than Honda. Or, a stupid company like K&N knows better than Honda.