flexes ?????
Broken Rear Frame
- Thread starter TomASmith
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Givi makes a reinforced mounting bracket for their top boxes and the FJR. FJRs suffer from the same structural deficiencies when it comes to supporting top-boxes. It's called the SR357. Wonder if they make something similar for the ST??
RobbieAG
Robert
If I grab the Givi rack and move it forward and back, it flexes maybe a sixteenth of an inch. There is no play left to right. Does this sound normal? It's not just the rack that flexes, but the whole rear section, plastic and all.
Mine is solid.
Uncle Phil
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Just a note - The Hondaline trunk for the ST1100 moves 'around' on the rack. The first time I installed one I thought I'd made an installation mistake. Sort of like the saddlebag 'flop' - built into the design.
STraymond
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This non-Givi rack promises the extra support and eliminates the need for the heavy Givi plate for the Monokey cases:Givi makes a reinforced mounting bracket for their top boxes and the FJR. FJRs suffer from the same structural deficiencies when it comes to supporting top-boxes. It's called the SR357. Wonder if they make something similar for the ST??
http://www.mmotoracks.com/product/rear-rack-for-honda-st1100-pan-european
RobbieAG
Robert
I just took it apart and here's what I found (frame extension mount):
- 1 missing short bolt
- 1 loose short bolt
- 1 long bolt with missing nut (found it in toolket compartment)
- 1 loose long bolt
Good thing I checked! It's off to the hardware store tomorrow to get a bolt.
- 1 missing short bolt
- 1 loose short bolt
- 1 long bolt with missing nut (found it in toolket compartment)
- 1 loose long bolt
Good thing I checked! It's off to the hardware store tomorrow to get a bolt.
I tried to find these but wasn't sure exactly sure where to look. I didn't see it in the manual either. Any hints?
Martin :
I doubt if I'm carrying more than 22 lbs. But when I have time, I will re-enforce the bracket on both sides. Why take a chance ??
I doubt if I'm carrying more than 22 lbs. But when I have time, I will re-enforce the bracket on both sides. Why take a chance ??
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Is this linky what you're looking for?
First ride after I installed mine, I noticed a rattle and found it coming from the top box that was bouncing around a bit on the bracket. So I used a 1" wide strip of sticky backed insulation foam stuck around the perimeter of the bracket. The box still has a little give relative to the bracket but no longer rattles.
ST1100Y
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Jim,
you're a role model there ;-)
I've seen STs loaded so hefty, that their rested on the rear tire once the owner finally managed to hulk the rig onto the main-stand...
You believe correct...
The two forward ones (bold inserted from the outside, nut attached inboard) can be accessed from the "tool-compartement" once the seat is removed.
To get to the rear ones (only bolts, each attaching into a threaded sleeve, welded into the frame tube) one must remove the tailcone (thus carrier plate and passenger handles must come off too)
RobbieAG
Robert
I got the missing bolt, torqued everything and used some Loctite. It's much more solid now.
Just what bolts are you guys referring to? As far as I know, the tailpiece that the rear assembly/racks bolts to, is a welded part of the frame;
The "subframe" is up front beneath the engine.
The "subframe" is up front beneath the engine.
ST1100Y
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No...
loc 25, plate center
http://www.bike-parts-honda.com/pieces-honda-detail-3828-13MT3L41-ST1100N-1992-F__1800-PAN+EUROPEAN+ST+1100.html
is bolted onto the two end-tubes of the frame (right upper corner, where loc 6 & 32 are indicated):
http://www.bike-parts-honda.com/pieces-honda-detail-3828-13MT3L41-ST1100N-1992-F__3500-PAN+EUROPEAN+ST+1100.html
Got ya !...Seems to be a problem with the wording. You guys are simply referring to how the PLATE, CENTER GRAB RAIL mounts to the tail of the frame via 4 bolts? No subframe involved.
ST1100Y
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And now enter this as thread title and see how it goes... ;-)
(I once tried an -MT3- part number reference as title... uh-oh... :lol: )
RobbieAG
Robert
I was a bit confused. There is a subframe (FRAME, SUB part number 50150-MT3-000) which is on the bottom of the main frame. The part in question is "PLATE, CENTER GRAB RAIL" (part number 77313-MT3-000) which is the one that cracks and the bolts tend to get loose on.
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