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    Re: INNOVV K1 2-channel video

    Quote Originally Posted by SupraSabre View Post
    Keith, Have you had anymore issues from yours?
    Yep I sure have. For a while I think it was because somehow the 64GB card had a glitch; reformatting it seemed to help. But it is inconsistent.

    I've had questions about temperature range (and have found from time to time that the DVR was more than warm, though I do not check it routinely). Have had to pull the battery in order to get the thing to shut off, at least once, when it was stuck in an error loop.

    For the moment at least, I'm back to the 128GB card since the 64 was not notably more reliable.

    Bottom line: the whole thing takes more attention, and is less reliable, than I had hoped. Kind of a hit-or-miss deal, but (maybe) better than nothing.

    On my Gettysburg weekend in April it seemed to operate exactly as it was supposed to; on the other hand, two weeks ago it had problems (recording one second segments then shutting down) until I pulled the DVR and reformatted the 128 GB card. It appears (based on file sizes) that it worked okay for the remainder of that day, but the next morning it went back to the one-second-then-shutoff mode for some period of time. After a while it settled down- about the time I left the parking lot and actually started riding- and ran about right the rest of the four hour ride home. There were a couple places where segments ended sooner than expected, but the next segment picked up right away. No idea what caused the early terminations.

    I may look into relocating the DVR location, but to where? I don't want it out in plain sight or in the weather. I don't want the cables flopping around or exposed. Since I keep the DVR in the supplied pouch, and use the pouch flap to secure the cables, cables popping loose doesn't seem like it should be the problem. Maybe I need to rethink how I have that set up; rather than having the DVR oriented so that the plugs are at the flap end of the pouch perhaps flipping it so that they are at the bottom end? Got any thoughts, Bob?
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    Re: INNOVV K1 2-channel video

    Quote Originally Posted by ibike2havefun View Post
    Yep I sure have. For a while I think it was because somehow the 64GB card had a glitch; reformatting it seemed to help. But it is inconsistent.

    I've had questions about temperature range (and have found from time to time that the DVR was more than warm, though I do not check it routinely). Have had to pull the battery in order to get the thing to shut off, at least once, when it was stuck in an error loop.

    For the moment at least, I'm back to the 128GB card since the 64 was not notably more reliable.

    Bottom line: the whole thing takes more attention, and is less reliable, than I had hoped. Kind of a hit-or-miss deal, but (maybe) better than nothing.

    On my Gettysburg weekend in April it seemed to operate exactly as it was supposed to; on the other hand, two weeks ago it had problems (recording one second segments then shutting down) until I pulled the DVR and reformatted the 128 GB card. It appears (based on file sizes) that it worked okay for the remainder of that day, but the next morning it went back to the one-second-then-shutoff mode for some period of time. After a while it settled down- about the time I left the parking lot and actually started riding- and ran about right the rest of the four hour ride home. There were a couple places where segments ended sooner than expected, but the next segment picked up right away. No idea what caused the early terminations.

    I may look into relocating the DVR location, but to where? I don't want it out in plain sight or in the weather. I don't want the cables flopping around or exposed. Since I keep the DVR in the supplied pouch, and use the pouch flap to secure the cables, cables popping loose doesn't seem like it should be the problem. Maybe I need to rethink how I have that set up; rather than having the DVR oriented so that the plugs are at the flap end of the pouch perhaps flipping it so that they are at the bottom end? Got any thoughts, Bob?
    Actually... I've been doing more reading and from what I'm hearing (seeing?) if the unit gets bounced around it will cause it to act weird. Like the short recording times and such. Also, if the cables are moving around (yeah, i had mine in the pouch too, but I don't think that is fool proof to keeping them stable) will cause the same issues. SO I relocated mine for this trip. I'll let you know what I come up with. I have a piece of foam under the rear of my tankbag to keep it horizontal, so I cut a bunch of it out and have it stuffed under that.

    I'll let you know what happens!
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    Re: INNOVV K1 2-channel video

    Looking at the segment lengths from my most recent trip, about 3/4 of them (30 out of 41) ended sooner than programmed, and with a frame or two of video "noise" at the end. But I do also see from the review that I was not entirely on road surfaces suitable for super-speedway F1 or MotoGP use... So yes, maybe some manner of additional cushioning is in order.

    I wonder whether orientation (lying flat vs. on its side vs. on end) affects its shock tolerance?

    FWIW, I have the "G sensor" (the feature that is supposed to interrupt / preserve the latest recording in the event of a sudden impact, such as a crash) either shut off or set at the lowest sensitivity. But that might still produce the results we are seeing, at least in some cases. I also have the lane impingement warning shut off; it cried wolf at parked cars in my neighborhood.

    No explanation has occurred to me for the series of 0 to 10 second segments it captured while I was just maneuvering or sitting in the hotel parking lot. Certainly not jostling or impact; I can't imagine what would have caused the cables to jiggle, either.

    Keep us posted on what you find; I'll do the same.

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    Re: INNOVV K1 2-channel video

    This just in: rearranging the camera inside the pouch, so that the cables enter from the bottom and are therefore "protected" from jiggling by the pouch body... hasn't the slightest effect. The camera is still prone to the start... immediate stop behavior, and it's definitely not because of a shock since it happened while the bike was sitting still. Grrrrrrr....

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    Re: INNOVV K1 2-channel video

    This just in: I am decidedly less than entirely pleased with this product, now that I've had it in use for 15 months. It is much more finicky and less reliable than I expected.

    Yesterday, for example, I did a ride that covered about 8 hours of clock time, of which probably seven were actual riding. As currently configured I have a 64GB card installed (Samsung Pro, which I believe to be in the range of specs specified for the media).

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    It's been reformatted a couple of times, using the DVR's "FORMAT" function, because of earlier card errors that caused the unit to fail to operate as expected.

    I have about 20 seconds of video recorded at the start, then the recorder evidently decided to take the rest of the morning off and did nothing for the next three-plus hours. It came back to life in the afternoon, when I re-started the bike after my lunch stop. Had something unfortunate occurred in the time between those two events there'd be no record of it. Having continuously-recorded footage as forensic evidence if needed was precisely why I selected and installed this particular camera, so when it is not operating as advertised it completely defeats the purpose.

    A second glitch occurred later in the day, when between one frame and the next the rear channel went from normal recorded view to this:

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    It stayed that way for quite a while, before auto-magically reverting to the correct presentation. Once again, the correction occurred only after I had shut the bike (and therefore the DVR) off for a gas stop; when the bike restarted so did the DVR. And, there were moments earlier in the day where the rear channel displayed all manner of extraordinarily bad behaviors, but quickly reverted to proper function.

    Reviewing results from previous rides, I see that the same thing happened a couple weeks ago: front channel running normally, then a blast of video junk, followed by a brief return to normal operation, then... nothing. And the rear channel had stopped recording after the previous segment. So, both channels shut off and stopped recording, losing over 2.5 hours of ride. That segment of the ride also included a gas stop, so there was a period when the engine was not running at all. But unlike yesterday, the DVR did NOT come back to life when the bike was restarted.

    On other days earlier this year, perhaps not unrelated to very warm summer conditions, the DVR has gotten quite warm and then stuck in a loop of some sort where the only way out was to pull it, pull the battery (the unit would not respond to the power off/on button), let it cool down, and reinstall it.

    So, my conclusion is that there is something flaky with the DVR itself or perhaps with my installation, and that it isn't quiiiiiiite ready for prime time. Perhaps under the seat isn't really a good place for it- it DOES get warm under there, and the containing pouch probably acts as an additional heat-trapping insulator, although that better not have been the issue yesterday when the air temperature was below 70 degrees for the entire ride.

    Still, WHEN it works as advertised it works well. But it takes a lot more fiddling and minding than I expected, and you have to be able to live with chances that it will crap out from time to time.

    I may submit my findings to the vendor, to see what they say. It's only fair to them to see if there's a fix, or if they will do anything to make it right, before I give up altogether.

    @SupraSabre (Bob): have you had any more experiences to share?
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    Re: INNOVV K1 2-channel video

    Just bad ones...

    Just before my trip to Oregon last June, I noticed that the little rubber piece at the wire connection to the front camera came out, so I proceeded to "fix" it. somehow I managed to pinch a wire putting it back together. I thought I fixed that, but the front camera didn't work the whole trip. The rear camera worked to some extent, but it still flaked out more that I care for. I moved the DVD where it sits behind/below my tankbag, that did seem to help a little.

    I'm not thrilled with it either!

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