A thong???jonz said:
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I have been in quite a few downpours: the bags didn't leak.
Only one way to find out!
LOL I don't! BTDT and I'm camped out. It was fun then not now. I camp at a Best Western. Unpacking and packing up take long enough without setting up camp.
I have rode through massive amounts of water and downpours and have never had a drop of water on my saddle bags or top box. I also have the full inserts and I carry garbage bags for the just in case time, but have never needed to wrap anything yet.
I have two tents I ride with. One for minimalist trips on my dirt bike weighs 3 lbs. The other for dual sport trips where bulk and weight is not so critical is 6 lbs and sleeps two people if they're friendly but I use it by myself. 3 lb sleeping bag good to below freezing and a 1 lb air mattress that goes with it. Even the entire bigger setup packs easily into a medium dry bag. Before I got old and soft, I used to get by with a 3/4 Thermarest (< 1 lb), a 1 lb bivy sac, and a 2 lb down bag sometimes supplemented with a small tarp/groundsheet and some mosquito mesh. I even tried just sleeping out in my riding gear and helmet in the bivy sac in the mountains but that was a little too hard core for me.
I have two tents I ride with. One for minimalist trips on my dirt bike weighs 3 lbs. The other for dual sport trips where bulk and weight is not so critical is 6 lbs and sleeps two people if they're friendly but I use it by myself. 3 lb sleeping bag good to below freezing and a 1 lb air mattress that goes with it. Even the entire bigger setup packs easily into a medium dry bag. Before I got old and soft, I used to get by with a 3/4 Thermarest (< 1 lb), a 1 lb bivy sac, and a 2 lb down bag sometimes supplemented with a small tarp/groundsheet and some mosquito mesh. I even tried just sleeping out in my riding gear and helmet in the bivy sac in the mountains but that was a little too hard core for me.
I agree with your priority here!
usually on a road trip my cloths are in one of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wolfman-Luggage-Expedition-Dry-Duffel-Bag-Pack-Small-Yellow-Waterproof-/332075788563?hash=item4d51426913:g:bWUAAOSw5cNYZT~3&vxp=mtr
Well, now... that's cool!that's why you add this to the pack... in the bag it's the size of a large orange.
just because it didn't get wet this time doesn't mean it will be dry next time . Always pack clothes and sleeping bags inside a plastic bag. Zip lock bags work great for sox and under wear. Cheap insurance.Only one way to find out!
Myh first ST did let a minor amount of water in one bag. I think it was coming up from below. Probably somebody opverloaded the bag and stretched out the hinges. The vurrent ST both bags are holding tight.
The Seals could be good or bad, the joints may or may not align. Only you and the shadow know!!
The nylon bags you put on the inside are not going to be waterproof for long if water does get in.
So get out there and get wet! Better to find out while close to home then 500 miles or more away.
I'll take my chances now. A one night trip to a laundry mat drying out my undies is better then a hunndred times of putting things in and out of plastic bags. Now if I was rafting or kayaking.. different story.
