Side stand indicator LED

DavidR8 · Sep 10, 2017

If the side stand is wired to prevent an in-gear start, could it also be a switch for a circuit that could power an LED to indicate the stand is down?

Green neutral light, green stand-down light maybe?

I ask because I am paranoid about a partially deployed stand leading to a drop. I've done it twice on my Tiger (though in truth one was a on a forward incline).

I'm electrically challenged so I would need some directions

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Ltimb · Sep 10, 2017

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Hmmm, it won't partially deploy and if it fully dropped you'll know as the engine will stop running... That's how I stop my bike by putting the stand down that way I know it's in gear and the stand is fully deployed so as to not tip it over by forgetting to put the stand down....

DavidR8 · Sep 10, 2017

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Ltimb said:
Hmmm, it won't partially deploy and if it fully dropped you'll know as the engine will stop running... That's how I stop my bike by putting the stand down that way I know it's in gear and the stand is fully deployed so as to not tip it over by forgetting to put the stand down....

Thanks, that's a sound approach.

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Kevin_56 · Sep 10, 2017

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DavidR8 said:
If the center stand is wired to prevent an in-gear start

The center stand is not wired to prevent an in gear start, but the side stand is.

Yes, putting the side stand down will kill the engine if in gear, it is very easy to forget to turn the key off using this method though.

DavidR8 · Sep 10, 2017

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Kevin_56 said:
The center stand is not wired to prevent an in gear start, but the side stand is.

Sorry, I've been focused on getting my ST1300 on the centre stand today. Clearly that carried on to my post.
I do mean side stand.

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Kevin_56 · Sep 10, 2017

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DavidR8 said:
Sorry, I've been focused on getting mt ST1300 on the centre stand today.

Understand being focused.

Bush · Sep 10, 2017

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What? Another "deficiency" in the 1300 that had been addressed with a dash light on the 1100?

ST Gui · Sep 11, 2017

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DavidR8 said:
I do mean side stand.

We got that.

Congratulations on your Lazy STusan. Very nice. If it doesn't put you too much on tippy (no pun intended) toes you might put a 1" or more board under the rear tire. Then position the STusan under the center stand and pop it up. Move the board out of the way and Bob's your uncle.

DavidR8 · Sep 11, 2017

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ST Gui said:
We got that. Congratulations on your Lazy STusan. Very nice. If it doesn't put you too much on tippy (no pun intended) toes you might put a 1" or more board under the rear tire. Then position the STusan under the center stand and pop it up. Move the board out of the way and Bob's your uncle.

Thanks, it was super easy to build.
A board seems to be the only way I can get it in the centre stand. I just don't have the strength other wise.

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Chunk · Sep 11, 2017

I find to deploy the center stand, in general, on a motorbike, is to step down and reward, as opposed to lifting straight up. Usually, it's a technique issue, more than strength. Maybe that will help. Chunk.

DavidR8 · Sep 11, 2017

Thanks Chunk, I'll modify my technique and see if I have more success.

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Don B · Sep 11, 2017

+1 what Chunk said. You definitely do not have to be able to lift 300+ lbs with one hand to get the ST onto its CS, maybe 40-50 lbs if you're doing it right. You need to put as much of your body weight as possible on the CS lever while lifting with the right hand.

paulcb · Sep 11, 2017

Don B said:
+1 what Chunk said. You definitely do not have to be able to lift 300+ lbs with one hand to get the ST onto its CS, maybe 40-50 lbs if you're doing it right. You need to put as much of your body weight as possible on the CS lever while lifting with the right hand.

You also need to rock it back and forth a a few times and take advantage of the momentum going backward. Usually takes me 2-3 rocks to get my ST1100 up, same for my bother's ST1300. It's really not that hard once you get the motion down.

Bush · Sep 11, 2017

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DavidR8 said:
A board seems to be the only way I can get it in the centre stand. I just don't have the strength other wise.

You must not be doing it right. I'm no muscle man at 67 years old and I can centre stand my 1100 no problem. First, you stand facing the bike. Then you put your lefthand on the left grip, your right hand on the assist lever, your right foot on the centre stand. Then make sure both feet of the CS are contacting the ground and stand, with all your weight, on the CS as you pull rearwards with both hands. Should not need a lot of lifting with the arms, as Chunk says.

Don B · Sep 11, 2017

I get my 1300 on its CS exactly as Bush described, although it may be a little easier for me since it's a little lighter than his 1100. I can't quite visualize how Paulcb rocks his ST back and forth with both CS feet touching the ground in order to get it up in the air, but I definitely have to rock my body mass back and forth a few times to get it over-center when getting it off the CS!

ST Gui · Sep 12, 2017

The problem with trying to lift the ST is that energy is wasted when you inadvertently try to lift the ST above it's highest point on the arc of the stand. Once it's at or very near that point the energy needs to be directing the bike back instead of up.

But all the 'technique' doesn't help if you can't get the bike high enough to start with. Variables determine what that height will be. For me it's 195lbs and 42/42lbs and lifting in an arc. At some point I'll add some plywood under the front or rear wheel.

With enough weight on the stand's arm no technique or finesse whatsoever would be needed.

Uncle Phil · Sep 12, 2017

One snatch and my ST1100s are on the center stand. All about using your weight as a counter balance - and practice.

ddemair · Sep 12, 2017

ST Gui said:
With enough weight on the stand's arm no technique or finesse whatsoever would be needed.

At over 200 pounds (which I shouldn't be), I have no problem putting enough weight on the arm to lever the bike onto the centerstand, but I can see how more appropriately-weighted people may have to work a little harder at it.

I wonder if anyone has devised a lever-arm that could be placed temporarily on the centerstand's arm to increase the leverage.

DavidR8 · Sep 12, 2017

ST Gui said:
The problem with trying to lift the ST is that energy is wasted when you inadvertently try to lift the ST above it's highest point on the arc of the stand. Once it's at or very near that point the energy needs to be directing the bike back instead of up.

But all the 'technique' doesn't help if you can't get the bike high enough to start with. Variables determine what that height will be. For me it's 195lbs and 42/42lbs and lifting in an arc. At some point I'll add some plywood under the front or rear wheel.

With enough weight on the stand's arm no technique or finesse whatsoever would be needed.

Well I'm a lean 170 lbs so that's pretty light by your numbers. [emoji846]

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dwalby · Sep 12, 2017

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Bush said:
What? Another "deficiency" in the 1300 that had been addressed with a dash light on the 1100?

I was wondering about that when I read the OP, so the 1300 doesn't have the sidestand indicator light?

also, I'm 175 lbs and put the 1100 on the centerstand occasionally barefooted, which does take a little technique, but with shoes on its very simple.

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