A little history

You know I have had a bunch of motorcycles in my life but none ever came close
to the fun and enjoyment I had on my ST1100... even my ole Norton 850 Commando
although fun was not up to par. I liked my ST1300 but nowhere as much as my ST1100.
If they made it today I would be at the dealer with my money in hand....
Ride Safe
Dave

Here's an history article (written in German and translated into English) which states the ST1100 was designed by Honda of Germany.

HISTORY OF THE HONDA ST1100
Development and model history
The motorcycle was developed as a rival to BMW K100 LT ( Luxury Tourer ) in Germany at the Honda Research and Development Center in Offenbach under the project name Trans Europe and first built only in Japan , and later in Honda plants in Europe . [ 4 ] [ 5 ] by default, Honda demanded by the developers long range , perfect weather protection and comfort and an integrated fitted as standard baggage system that combines two full-face helmets , plus safe driving with a full load and maximum speed on motorways , connected with handy driving behavior and absolute reliability . The development department in Offenbach designed , inspired by the great V2 - travel machine of Moto Guzzi , a motorcycle with shaft drive and a newly developed , longitudinally mounted V4 engine , high and wide windscreen and fully closed side panels with integrated 35 -liter cases . [ 2 ]
Launch
In 1990, Honda ST 1100 ( Sport Touring 1100) , provided in Europe surnamed Pan European , on the market . From 1992, an antilock braking system with traction control ( TCS ) was an additional cost of 2,500 DM available . [ 6 ] From 1993, Honda reduced the capacity from 100 to 98 hp to achieve a more favorable insurance ratings .
Revision
As of 1996, there was a spoiler with slots to reduce the suction behind the wheel , new side panels and on the request of many authorities that operate the motorcycle with radio and signaling devices , a stronger 480 -watt alternator to 43 mm stanchions for the front fork , a wider front tires ( 120/70 ZR 18 instead of 110/80 V 18 ) with a constant steering head angle ( 63 degrees ) and trailing ( 100 mm ) . The rear tires remained in the same dimension ( 160/70 ZR 17 ) , but was refitted as the front tire on the radial type . The ABS version was introduced in the CBR 1000 F 1993 DUAL CBS composite brake system. [ 7 ]

Succession Of The ST1300
The motorcycle was from 1990 to 2002 built and replaced in 2003 by the Honda ST1300 Pan European , the Honda presented at the fair Intermot in Munich in September 2002 , although in view of some chassis weaknesses could not build on the success of ST in 1100 . [ 8 ]

The modeled by Moto Guzzi along and very deep set built 90 ° -V4 engine enables a shaft drive without reversing gear and makes the bike easier to handle than with transverse engine since the gyroscopic moment of high-speed rotating crankshaft is not counter to the angle changes. In addition, the clutch rotates in opposite directions relative to the crankshaft to reduce the typical stall torque Guzzi when accelerating. [5] The engine is liquid-cooled, four valves per cylinder and four carburetors. The radiator is assisted by an electric fan, which switches on at high temperatures via a thermostat. The consumption is about 6.5 liters of regular gasoline per 100 km at highway recommended speed of 130 km / h irrespective of the load. [9] The V-engine pulls already smoothly from 1,000 rpm with little torque, the bike on journeys on wet roads makes it easy to control. [10] Where the tank is mounted on any motorcycle sitting in the ST 1100 is a great air filter from the car sector, the large 28-liter fuel tank is low center of gravity in the frame triangle beneath the seat and allows on highways ranges of over 500 km. [11] The dual headlights is adjustable in height by hand wheel from the cockpit, in Germany allowed the factory but only light up one of two dipped-beam headlamps. Even the ABS of the first generation contained with TCS (Traction Control System), a traction control, 15 years before BMW that in the K complaining 1200 GT as a novelty for in 2007. [12] [2] built from 1996 Honda that at Moto Guzzi proven composite brake that delayed when stepping on the brake pedal both wheels, in which always two wheels are braked in its DUAL-ABS-CBS (Combined Brake System), even if the driver only the hand or foot brake operated. [13] The rocker is based on only one strut right .
Design And Comfort
The sweeping fairing with integrated as a windbreak for the hands mirroring provides the driver and front passenger protection against wind and rain. [14] risk of falling undersides of disguise and suitcases are not painted, but were light gray colored and dark gray from 1996 in the first series. As standard, the motorcycle has two tipover bars that lie under two gray wings left and right on the fairing and to keep damage to the multi-part panel in a fall low. [15] In addition, they make it easier for the driver, one lying on its side machine again raise. The two mirror flaps at collapse, the painted mirror housings are fastened with snaps and depend upon contact with obstacles captive on backup tapes. Some motorcyclists designate the Pan European as a car on two wheels and complain about the heavy weight. [16] The longitudinally mounted V-engine of the ST 1100 is said to have an easy ride. [17] The fourth speed ranges up to 205 km / h, the fifth gear is an overdrive for speed reduction. At 200 km / h, engine speed only 6500 / min. [18] The long and wide bench seat provides the driver and front passenger even on very long daily stages 1000 km a comfortable sitting position. [19] [16] The payload is with 200 kg of unlike many other tourers enough for two adults with protective clothing and luggage. Factory were heated grips, offered a top case in two sizes and widenings of the fairing and mirrors for tall drivers. The Tour handlebars from Magura and a higher windscreen to improve the ergonomics of the ST for particularly small or large driver yet. [20] [16] In most years, the ST model was offered in 1100 in two new colors . [ 21 ]
Practicality And Durability
The heavy weight of the ST 1100 of 317 kg without and another 9 kg more with ABS makes when maneuvering in the state clearly noticeable. With a fold-out handle under the left seat edge the bike can also be jacked up by small people on the main stand. [22] As soon as the motorcycle is driven, the driver no longer feels the weight, [23] the brakes slow down very well [24] and the acceleration is given as 4.3 seconds to 100 km / h. The inspection intervals are 12,000 km or and the toothed belt from the Honda Accord has only every 100,000 km can be changed. The duration of testers of the magazine MOTORCYCLE that in two years 100,000 km traveled by their test machine and the bike disassembled afterwards, thereby found not a single part that had to be replaced, and criticized during the two years only a defective steering head and a broken front wheel bearings. [16] [25] This is consistent with the experiences of authorities and tour drivers in ST Owners Club ( STOC ) and is one reason for the high prices that are paid for motorcycles with six figure mileages on the used market . [ 26 ] [ 16 ]
Prices And Marketing
The ST 1100 1990 cost 21,000 marks. [ 5 ] Thus, Honda placed it next to the Gold Wing and the K - models of BMW in the top segment of the most expensive motorcycles on the market . With the ABS - TCS Honda sold the ST from 1992 for nearly 25,000 marks. [ 27 ] The second version from 1996 cost with CBS ABS nearly 27,000 marks. [ 28 ]
Competition and Comparable Tourers
As a sports tourer with comparable characteristics in 1990 were only very rare in Germany Kawasaki GTR1000 and the BMW K 100 LT in the market , which had only 90 hp and was therefore replaced in 1991 by the BMW K 1100 LT with 102 hp . In the 1994 comparison test of the magazine Motorrad ST occupied in 1100 the first place ahead of BMW K 1100 RS , Yamaha GTS 1000 and Triumph Trophy 1200. [ 29 ] The second version of the ST from 1996 competed with the BMW R 1100 RT and the trade press attested the Honda ST 1100 in this segment again the leading position [ 30 ] or they looked on a par with the BMW .
Applications
Sidecars
• Through the powerful even at low speeds motor , put to the test 118 Nm at 4900 / min were determined , [ 32 ] and the high mechanical stability was used the Pan European for towing trailers. [ 33 ] A special feature of the ST 1100 approved EZS Flexit sidecar laying the tractor into curves by analogy , a centrally arranged under the boat sidecar has and to the driver unlike conventional teams provides cornering performance of a normal motorcycle . [ 34 ] normal Swivel sidecar of Kalich or Armec can be mounted on the ST because of lying in front of the rear collector of the exhaust system does not . EZS offers sidecar on a trailer hitch for the ST 1100 .

Used Market
The introduction of the ST 1300 in 2003 for the second hand prices fell significantly , as many owners of ST 1100 is immediately unseen ordered the successor . Was previously not used ST to get under 8,000 euros , STs were suddenly under 100,000 km starting at 4,000 euros on the used market . [ 37 ] The prices rose after something , since many ST 1300 owners again changed back to ST 1100 . [ 38 ] even 12 years of production the expiry Honda itself remained with high mileages a sought Supertourer . [ 39 ]
Group Meetings
The annual European Meeting Pan Gathering of riders and friends of ST 1100/1300 is held every year in a different country , to suit the target group that is not a camp meeting , but usually takes place in large hotels . [ 40 ]
Curiosities
• 1967 and 1969, initiated brainer Ernst Leverkus of the magazine Motorrad two 24-hour long-distance journeys Hamburg - Wien - Hamburg with several Moto Guzzi V7 to demonstrate the performance of the large Kardantourers V- engine . [ 41 ] In 1996, the editorial staff repeated the long-distance test ST with a 1100 as the legitimate successor to the legendary Moto Guzzi V7 Bahnburners . [ 42 ] [ 43 ]

• Andreas from München ran his ST 1100-2009 564,000 kilometers with the first engine . [ 44 ]
• • In the American ST Owners Club , there are awards for anyone who exceeds his ST 1100, the 100 , 150 , 200 , 250 , 300 and 350 thousand miles, this only counts the distance traveled on a motorbike . In the annual reports of recent years , the leaders are with their ST 1100 there 60000-100000 ( in 2009) miles per year ! As of the end of March 2015, there is a 1998 ST 1100 owned by Alex Schmidt from Bethel , NY with more than 350,000 miles ( 563,270 kilometers ) , two with more than 300,000 miles, four with more than 200,000 miles, ten with more than 150,000 miles and 30 ST 1100 with more than 100,000 miles ( 160,934 km).
• The long-distance qualities of the machine are often used by members of the Iron Butt Association , whose ambition is within 24 hours 1000 miles ( 1600 km ) or more to cover on a motorcycle . [ 45 ]
Literatur[Bearbeiten]
• R. M. Clarke: Honda ST 1100/ST 1300 Pan European 1989–2002 Road Test Portfolio. Brooklands Books, 2009. (englisch) ISBN 978-158850-087-8.
• Matthew Coombs: Honda ST 1100 (Pan European) Service and Repair Manual: 1990 to 2002. 3., überarb. Auflage. J H Haynes & Co. (englisch) ISBN 978-184425-362-3.
• Ulrich Hoffmann: Das Motorrad – Geschichte – Technik – Design. GeraMond, 2012, ISBN 978-3-86245-656-7.
• Joachim Kuch, Jürgen Gaßebner: Honda. Motorräder seit 1984. Motorbuch Verlag Stuttgart. 1. Auflage 1998, ISBN 3-613-01887-X.
• Gerhard Siem: Motorräder: Die besten Bikes aller Zeiten. Heel, 2013, ISBN 978-3-86852-704-9.
Weblinks[Bearbeiten]
Commons: Honda ST1100 – Sammlung von Bildern, Videos und Audiodateien
• Reifenfreigaben Honda PDF. Abgerufen am 16. April 2015.
• Pan European Forum Forum für ST 1100 und ST 1300. Abgerufen am 16. April 2015.
• ST Owners Club (STOC) Germany Deutsche Vereinigung der ST Besitzer (kein Verein und beitragsfrei). Abgerufen am 16. April 2015.
• Wissenswertes und Fundgrube für Neulinge Übersichtsseite des ST 1100 Forums. Links, Tipps und Wissenswertes über die Pan & Community. Abgerufen am 16. April 2015.
Einzelnachweise[Bearbeiten]
1. Hochspringen ↑ MOTORRAD Katalog 1996, S. 59.
2. ↑ Hochspringen nach: a b c Gerhard Siem: Motorräder: Die besten Bikes aller Zeiten"". Heel. 30. Juni 2013, ISBN 978-3-86852-704-9, S. 132. Zitat: „ABS und eine erste Traktionskontrolle … gepaart mit Ausdauer und Zuverlässigkeit, machten die ausgereifte Pan European frühzeitig zu einem der sichersten Motorräder der Welt. So war die Honda ST 1100 Pan European auch als Einsatzmotorrad bei Polizei, Notarzt, Straßenwacht und Feuerwehr sehr beliebt.“
3. Hochspringen ↑ Dieter Höner: Service, Gebrauchtkauf Honda ST 1100 Pan European Fernfahrers Liebling In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 6, 2014, S. 90.
4. Hochspringen ↑ Reiner H. Nitschke: Touren-Test Honda Pan-European: Souveräne Zähmung. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 3, 1990, S. 24.
5. ↑ Hochspringen nach: a b c Touring News: Neuer Supertourer: Honda Pan-European. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 6, 1989, S. 9.
6. Hochspringen ↑ Martin Schempp: Touren-Test Honda ST 1100 ABS-TCS: Jetzt ist sie fast perfekt. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 1/2, 1993, S. 22.
7. Hochspringen ↑ Intern/News: Starke Bremse In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 10, 1995, S. 4.
8. Hochspringen ↑ Honda ST 1100 Pan European: Der Name ist Programm. Webseite Bikerszene. Volker Hellmann. Vergleich Honda ST 1100 und ST 1300. Abgerufen am 16. April 2015.
9. Hochspringen ↑ Martin Schempp: Touren-Test Honda ST 1100 ABS-TCS: Jetzt ist sie fast perfekt. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 1/2, 1993, S. 26.
10. Hochspringen ↑ Martin Schempp: Touren-Test Honda ST 1100 ABS-TCS: Jetzt ist sie fast perfekt. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 1/2, 1993, S. 25.
11. Hochspringen ↑ Reiner H. Nitschke: Touren-Test Honda Pan-European: Souveräne Zähmung. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 3, 1990, S. 33.
12. Hochspringen ↑ Till Kohlmey: Anti-Schlupf. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 3, 2007, S. 14/15.
13. Hochspringen ↑ Richard Rompa: Bremsen ohne Wenn und Aber. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 1/2, 1996, S. 10/11.
14. Hochspringen ↑ Norbert Kappes: Vergleichstest Supertourer Upper Class In: Zeitschrift MOTORRAD Ausgabe 16/1994, S.20.
15. Hochspringen ↑ Reiner H. Nitschke: Touren-Test Honda Pan-European: Souveräne Zähmung. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 3, 1990, S. 24.
16. ↑ Hochspringen nach: a b c d e Alles Roger – Gebrauchtkauf Honda ST 1100. Webseite der Zeitschrift Motorrad. Abgerufen am 15. April 2015. Auch in Druckausgabe: Peter Limmert: Alles roger In: Zeitschrift MOTORRAD Ausgabe 9/1996, S.186-193.
17. Hochspringen ↑ Reiner H. Nitschke: Touren-Test Honda Pan-European: Souveräne Zähmung. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 3, 1990, S. 28 und 31/32.
18. Hochspringen ↑ Reiner H. Nitschke: Touren-Test Honda Pan-European: Souveräne Zähmung. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 3, 1990, S. 28.
19. Hochspringen ↑ Martin Schempp: Touren-Test Honda ST 1100 ABS-TCS: Jetzt ist sie fast perfekt. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 1/2, 1993, S. 28.
20. Hochspringen ↑ Martin Fütterer: Aufrechte Sache: ST 1100-Hochlenker In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 9, 1994, S. 79.
21. Hochspringen ↑ ST History. Webseite des STOC Germany. Abgerufen am 21. April 2015.
22. Hochspringen ↑ Martin Schempp: Touren-Test Honda ST 1100 ABS-TCS: Jetzt ist sie fast perfekt. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 1/2, 1993, S. 28.
23. Hochspringen ↑ Reiner H. Nitschke: Touren-Test Honda Pan-European: Souveräne Zähmung. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 3, 1990, S. 27. Zitat: Zunächst besteigt ein jeder dieses Motorrad mit Respekt, um sich allerdings nach den ersten Metern, den ersten Kurven zu fragen: Wo haben die Japaner eigentlich die satten sechs Zentner versteckt? Rasch wird auch klar, wie fahrlässig oft mit der Aussage „ja, wenn sie einmal rollt, dann ist sie aber handlich“ umgegangen wird. Alle anderen Boliden dieser Klasse und sogar weitaus leichtere Maschinen sind im Vergleich zur ST tatsächlich „Eisenhaufen“.
24. Hochspringen ↑ Martin Schempp: Touren-Test Honda ST 1100 ABS-TCS: Jetzt ist sie fast perfekt. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 1/2, 1993, S. 24.
25. Hochspringen ↑ Werner Koch: 100.000km Honda ST 1100 Hinterm Horizont geht's weiter In: Zeitschrift MOTORRAD Ausgabe 19/1992, S.18-30.
26. Hochspringen ↑ Honda ST 1100 Pan European (1989–2004) Review. Webseite Motorcycle News (englisch). Abgerufen am 16. April 2015.
27. Hochspringen ↑ Martin Schempp: Touren-Test Honda ST 1100 ABS-TCS: Jetzt ist sie fast perfekt. In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 1/2, 1993, S. 29.
28. Hochspringen ↑ Reiner H.Nitschke: Touren-Test Honda ST 1100: Der Kombinationssieger In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 7, 1996, S. 26.
29. Hochspringen ↑ Norbert Kappes: Vergleichstest Supertourer Upper Class In: Zeitschrift MOTORRAD Ausgabe 16/1994, S.24.
30. Hochspringen ↑ Reiner H.Nitschke: Touren-Test Honda ST 1100: Der Kombinationssieger In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 7, 1996, S. 27.
31. Hochspringen ↑ Kein Tourenmotorrad verdient alleine den Lorbeerkranz Webseite der Süddeutschen Zeitung. 17. Mai 2010. Ulf Böhringer. BMW und Honda liegen Kopf an Kopf im Rennen um Platz eins …. aus Druckausgabe der SZ vom 21. August 1996. Abgerufen am 16. April 2015.
32. Hochspringen ↑ Norbert Kappes: Vergleichstest Supertourer Upper Class In: Zeitschrift MOTORRAD Ausgabe 16/1994, S.18.
33. Hochspringen ↑ Axel Koenigsbeck: Gediegener Familientourer In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 5, 1997, S. 110–114.
34. Hochspringen ↑ Axel Koenigsbeck: Honda ST 1100: Zwei Variationen In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 3, 1996, S. 104–108.
35. Hochspringen ↑ Ulrich Hoffmann: Das Motorrad - Geschichte - Technik - Design. GeraMond. 22. März 2012, ISBN 978-3-86245-656-7, S. 168. Zitat: "Wer in den Neunzigerjahren einen zuverlässigen Reisebegleiter suchte, kam an der ST 1100 Pan European von Honda nicht vorbei. Der flüssigkeitsgekühlte V4-Motor gilt noch heute als unzerstörbar und verschlingt hohe Distanzen mit Leichtigkeit."
36. Hochspringen ↑ Thomas Schmieder: Report: Polizei Motorräder Bitte folgen In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 3, 2003, S. 78–80.
37. Hochspringen ↑ Honda ST 1100 Pan European Webseite der Zeitschrift 2Räder. Holger Hertneck: Honda ST 1100 Pan European. Auch in: Zeitschrift 2Räder. Ausgabe 09/2010 Seite 36 ff.
38. Hochspringen ↑ Till Kohlmey: Gebrauchtkauf: Service Die besten Tourer für 5.000 Euro In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 1, 2005, S. 32.
39. Hochspringen ↑ Dieter Höner: Service, Gebrauchtkauf Honda ST 1100 Pan European Fernfahrers Liebling In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 6, 2014, S. 90/91.
40. Hochspringen ↑ Pan-Gathering 2015. Webseite des Pan European Club Niederlande. Abgerufen am 16. April 2015.
41. Hochspringen ↑ Bahnburner Webseite Alexz, Artikel aus MOTORRAD, Nr. 21 vom 18. Oktober 1969. Abgerufen am 20. März 2015.
42. Hochspringen ↑ Fernfahrt Hamburg-Wien-Hamburg (Archivversion) Webseite der Zeitschrift Motorrad. Abgerufen am 20. März 2015.
43. Hochspringen ↑ Michael Schäfer: Honda ST 1100 Pan European 24-Stunden-Fernfahrt Hamburg-Wien-Hamburg. 27.08.1996 In: Zeitschrift MOTORRAD. Ausgabe 18/1996, S. 34–41.
44. Hochspringen ↑ Laufleistung Pan European Forum, Beitrag Nummer 12. Abgerufen am 20. März 2015.
45. Hochspringen ↑ Hall of Fame Webseite IBA Germany, Ãœbersicht aller Fahrten. Abgerufen am 17. April 2015.

I had the 2000 out yesterday for 140 miles round trip- I’m not in the market for a new bike now but the new GW (non Tour) and Eluder (Yamaha Venture without the tail bag- great bike, poor name) caught my eye recently and I was mildly considering one- I have no doubt they’re ‘better’ than what I have now, but...after the ride on the ST yesterday, it just reaffirms what a really great bike the ST series is.

ST-1100 w/second gen ABS needed only FI to make it the perfect bike. This new Wing might qualify but not for my money.

Motorcycle Dave said:

If they made it today I would be at the dealer with my money in hand....

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George said:

ST-1100 w/second gen ABS needed only FI to make it the perfect bike.

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If they made it today looking like yesterday's but with FI and 1300cc I'd be interested. The slower steering geometry would be appreciated over the slight twitchiness of the 1300. More S-T than S-T for me.

Interesting develop that Holley (IIRC) is now selling replacement FI units for older vehicles that have carburetors. It is a complete swap with all the electronics built into the unit.
Maybe some feller with time could FI the ST1100s .... ;-)

"Too bad that it’s successor, the ST1300, didn’t live up to the reputation of its predecessor" ...WOW!! that's a matter of opinion !!

Uncle Phil said:

Interesting develop that Holley (IIRC) is now selling replacement FI units for older vehicles that have carburetors. It is a complete swap with all the electronics built into the unit.
Maybe some feller with time could FI the ST1100s .... ;-)

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.....and has been doing so for some 20+yrs. now. It's called Holley Pro-Jection. Had one of those throttle body injection units on my 85 Dodge pickup 4x4 with the 440Magnum installed. Worked great. My curiosity is, since throttle body injection is WAY 'old school' in the automotive world, why hasn't the motorcycle world went to true port injection?

Brant said:

.....and has been doing so for some 20+yrs. now. It's called Holley Pro-Jection. Had one of those throttle body injection units on my 85 Dodge pickup 4x4 with the 440Magnum installed. Worked great. My curiosity is, since throttle body injection is WAY 'old school' in the automotive world, why hasn't the motorcycle world went to true port injection?

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What I saw looked a little different than a throttle body injection unit but then I could be wrong. Supposedly this was something 'brand new' but I don't recall if it was from Holler or Carter. They were quite expensive - that part I did remember!

Great Info

Brant said:

.....and has been doing so for some 20+yrs. now. It's called Holley Pro-Jection. Had one of those throttle body injection units on my 85 Dodge pickup 4x4 with the 440Magnum installed. Worked great. My curiosity is, since throttle body injection is WAY 'old school' in the automotive world, why hasn't the motorcycle world went to true port injection?

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I think the Motus engines use direct injection.


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Uncle Phil said:

Here's an history article (written in German and translated into English) which states the ST1100 was designed by Honda of Germany.

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Hey, thanks for that article @Uncle Phil.
Very interesting and very impressive to see the mileage that some of those ST11 can achieve : 350 000 miles / 563 000 km. And still rolling.
Wow !

Looks like those engineer, in germany, knew what they were doing when they design this bike. Geee.....

Now, I start to understand why you have three of them... or isn't it four ?

DavidR8 said:

I think the Motus engines use direct injection.


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They originally planned to have direct injection on the Motus and some prototypes did. They dropped the direct injection on the production models and went to port injection.

ChriSTian_64 said:

Now, I start to understand why you have three of them... or isn't it four ?

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Four ...

Uncle Phil said:

Here's an history article (written in German and translated into English) which states the ST1100 was designed by Honda of Germany.

Applications
Sidecars
• Through the powerful even at low speeds motor , put to the test 118 Nm at 4900 / min were determined , [ 32 ] and the high mechanical stability was used the Pan European for towing trailers. [ 33 ] A special feature of the ST 1100 approved EZS Flexit sidecar laying the tractor into curves by analogy , a centrally arranged under the boat sidecar has and to the driver unlike conventional teams provides cornering performance of a normal motorcycle .

34. Hochspringen ↑ Axel Koenigsbeck: Honda ST 1100: Zwei Variationen In: Zeitschrift Tourenfahrer Nr. 3, 1996, S. 104–108.

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@Uncle Phil . What a great piece of history to find. And even better for me. I think that's the first article that I have seen that links the ST1100 to the Flexit Sidecar (no pun intended). Even better, the reference at 34 lead me to an Article, in German, in the Tourenfahrer Magazine that was a comparison test of the ST1100 pulling a rigid sidecar v the Flexit Sidecar. For the princely sum of Euro 1.99 I now have an electronic copy of the article which will be of great interest to the Flexit Sidecar community.

Uncle Phil, You are my hero

Oh, and to those trying to puzzle 'laying the tractor into curves by analogy , a centrally arranged under the boat sidecar has and to the driver unlike conventional teams provides cornering performance of a normal motorcycle'. It is a literal translation of German to English. It means, simplified, the oufit (hack) leans into corners like a normal motorcycle because of a wheel mounted centrally under the sidecar body.