I've had the Draggin Jeans for a few years and a lot of miles. Not too bad for hot weather. Good abrasion protection in knees and seat. I wanted some impact protection, too, so got their knee armor (made by Knox) but couldn't get it to stay in place. Velcro is supposed to attach the pads to the kevlar patches in the jeans. Bad idea. When I retired my old Roadcrafter suit recently I noted that those knee pads would be a perfect fit in the jeans. With the Velcro idea trashed, I carefully picked open the seam across the top of the kevlar patch, starting at the inseam and going only halfway across the knee. That gives just enough room to get the Roadcrafter knee pads into the pockets now formed between the denim and kevlar. Since I am no seamstress, I am unable to use sewing to keep the remaining stitches from unraveling. So I rubbed a little household cement into the threads, and...voila! Riding today proved very comfortable for my knees, but a little warm. The jeans look a little odd around the knees when standing now, but the protection offered is worth it.