Cruise control throttle cable alternatives

[Larry Fine]

Looking again at ways to connect a CC cable to the 1100 throttle pulley or cable that don't involve machining.

As I'm lazy, I want something easily installed and removed, no carb loosening, and just a short cable needed.

How about a throttle-cable splitter used in reverse, so two cables can pull on one? Am I onto something useful?


There are several different types, such as linear ones:




As well as a rotary type, and something called a Bowden box:




And then I found a reasonably-priced universal kit. I didn't shop for best price, just showing it:

https://www.amazon.com/Venhill-U01-4-125-BK-Universal-Throttle-Motorcycle/dp/B00O1C2JSO

 

[Uncle Phil]

Some folks drilled a hole through the pulley and just looped a fine wire through it (about like high string piano wire).

 

[Larry Fine]

Some folks drilled a hole through the pulley and just looped a fine wire through it (about like high string piano wire).

How does one get a drill bit to the pulley? I've read that the carbs must be dismounted to do that.


What do you think about my suggestion? Functionality of the MCCruise interface without the cost.

I have considered removing the "push" cable from the hand throttle and routing the CC cable to it.

 

[Uncle Phil]

Yes you would have to pull the carbs to do the drilling IIRC.
The way the CIU from MCCruise works is there is a short cable hooked to the bell crank and the cable it replaces goes into the CIU.
The 'puller' cable from the actuator goes into the CIU and it is all managed by the pulleys in the CIU.
With your dual setup, how would it work when you were not using the cruise control - would it pull the actuator cable even though the cruise was not on?
You also might have an issue with effort it takes to use the throttle because of that (pulling two cables instead of one).
I think the challenge with it would be figuring out the exact settings for the cable slack.
But you won't know until you try it!

 

[Larry Fine]

With your dual setup, how would it work when you were not using the cruise control - would it pull the actuator cable even though the cruise was not on?

If you're asking what I think you are, the worse that happens is the servo cable gets pushed into the servo when accelerating, which the 1223 is designed to accommodate, and does not require the beaded chain like some servos do.

You also might have an issue with effort it takes to use the throttle because of that (pulling two cables instead of one).

I wouldn't think so, because dual-cable closed-loop systems like Hondas have already move the cables and the twist throttle when the CC is accelerating. And again, the servo provides just about zero friction on the cable movement.

I think the challenge with it would be figuring out the exact settings for the cable slack.
But you won't know until you try it!

Every CC I have ever installed (starting back in the days of 8-track stereos) has worked well with almost no slack, because there is less time lag. A well-set-up aftermarket CC should operate as well as a factory-installed CC in a car.

 

[Uncle Phil]

You don't have to convince me - go for it!

 

[kiltman]

Looking again at ways to connect a CC cable to the 1100 throttle pulley or cable that don't involve machining.

As I'm lazy, I want something easily installed and removed, no carb loosening, and just a short cable needed.

How about a throttle-cable splitter used in reverse, so two cables can pull on one? Am I onto something useful?


There are several different types, such as linear ones:




As well as a rotary type, and something called a Bowden box:




And then I found a reasonably-priced universal kit. I didn't shop for best price, just showing it:

https://www.amazon.com/Venhill-U01-4-125-BK-Universal-Throttle-Motorcycle/dp/B00O1C2JSO

We’ll you’ve had this project sitting around for a few years time you got down to doing it and try these options out

 

[Larry Fine]

We’ll you’ve had this project sitting around for a few years time you got down to doing it and try these options out

I know, you're right. Now that I am almost recovered from my hip replacement, two months ago, and able to walk upright for the first time in a couple of years, the first chore is clutch and brake fluid replacement.

After this fall riding season, I'm going to have to invest in a portable garage so I have somewhere to work on the bike.