Side stand springs

[gbrand42]

Firstly, apologies for the silly question.......

I took my side stand off a few days ago for cleaning/regreasing, and now I go back to fitting it I cannot remember if the little spring goes inside the bigger spring or next to it?

Could someone have a quick look at theirs and confirm please, so I can commence the titanic struggle I will no doubt have getting them back on.

Thanks for your help

Graham

 

[tpasco1995]

Here's to hoping this helps?

 

[Larry Fine]

Inside, and a car drum-brake tool may help with the spring.

 

[gbrand42]

Thank you both I'm thinking of fitting the springs before replacing the pivot bolt so I have better leverage with the whole stand. Or this could be a stupid idea. I'll report my findings

 

[Igofar]

Put coins between each coil of the springs, it will make them longer, place in position, then simply pull the coins back out.

 

[Esti1300]

 

[SupraSabre]

I always find a pair of Vise-Grips, do the job nicely!

 

[STrangr]

Put coins between each coil of the springs, it will make them longer, place in position, then simply pull the coins back out.

Brilliant

 

[Larry Fine]

Put coins between each coil of the springs, it will make them longer, place in position, then simply pull the coins back out.

Do they sell rolls of nickels at the parts counter?

 

[Oldbikefixr]

Do they sell rolls of nickels at the parts counter?

Yes. They are just 50 cents each.

 

[Sadlsor]

I successfully used this technique to mount a centerstand to my BMW f650 years ago.
It was tedious, but nearly painless.
It was not a quick job, but rather simple when you extend the springs in such a manner.

 

[SMSW]

It's all in the details. For some very stout springs, it is majorly difficult to fit said nickles (I use washers - more varied sizes and cheaper) between the coils of the spring (try not to pinch yourself while bending the spring to insert spacers). Too, this tends to curve the spring away from the insertion side. Solution(?) put the spacers all the way around the spring - NO - some of those invariably will get in the way of hooking the spring over its assigned fastening point.

My best solution has been to try an automotive brake spring tool (thank you, @Larry Fine), then pliers (a nod to @SupraSabre) and even a combination of washers and one of the mentioned tools. In the end, the absolute best aid is muttered incantations and applied force to stretch the spring.

You might also try a trunk monkey.

 

[Sadlsor]

Not my monkeys, not my circus.

 

[Larry Fine]

In the end, the absolute best aid is muttered incantations and applied force to stretch the spring.

And you have to stick out the tip of your tongue in the corner of your mouth just right.

 

[SMSW]

And you have to stick out the tip of your tongue in the corner of your mouth just right.

Makes those incantations easy to mispronounce.

 

[gbrand42]

Put coins between each coil of the springs, it will make them longer, place in position, then simply pull the coins back out.

Yep that worked perfectly, thank you