Classic Honda fasteners...

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Working on ST's is still rather smooth, open an (online) fiche, select the loc # and get the full P/N... ready to order...

On older Honda's not quite as easy, having to decipher badly scanned part books pages, etc...

This might be of some help when seeking that one particular, hard to find bolt for your project:

 
On Honda fasteners….especially the little plastic push pins that secure the fairing, I can offer the following g information.

There are two companies that build both motorcycles and cars: BMW and Honda. The interesting thing is that they share parts and part numbers across their entire line of vehicles, especially on things like fasteners, seals, bearings, etc. So, instead of going into your bike dealer and asking for a plastic push-pin for a 2007 ST1300 fairing, you can go to your Honda car dealer and ask for part number xxx-YYYYY-PP.

The key is to get that OEM part number and, if possible, a listing of what vehicles have used it over the years. In that vein, note that standard mechanical parts like fasteners, bearings, seals etc. are commodity parts and they’re not made by Honda (or BMW for that matter) and so you will often find that the same seal or fastener has been used on a huge array of vehicles over literally 40-50 years and it may even be a current part on a vehicle built in 2026.

So, the vital key thing is to get that OEM part number - and the easy way to get it is to go to Partzilla.com

They have parts schematic drawings (they’re called “fiches” after the old microfilm slides that parts guys always used to use). They also have lists of applications for a given part for virtually all motorcycles going back decades.

All you do is copy down the OEM part number complete with any dots or dashes and then either put that exact text string into your Google search box or, if it's for a Honda or a BMW, call your local car dealer and ask for that part number.

Don’t tell them it’s for an old bike - they’ll usually blurt out that “we do not stock bike parts” or “we don’t stock older than 10 years”. Just tell them you want five of this specific part number or whatever number you need. When I first bought my 2007 Honda ST1300, a whole bunch of those plastic pushpins were missing from the fairing - and the bike dealer wanted $8-9.00 each for them. I got the OEM part number, and the Honda car dealer next door sold me a package of 10 pins for around $7.50.

The other thing - which works for any brand of bike - is to just insert the OEM part number into your Google search window and see what comes up. I run three 1970s Yamaha XS650s, and I have often gotten NOS parts for my vintage bikes from Google. BTW - NOS means "new old stock" - parts which have never been used and usually are still in the original box.

Apparently, there are people who go around buying old stock from dealers and re-selling them. They simply list them by the OEM part number and so typing that string into Google works really well.

The key is having the correct OEM part number.
 
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Slight diversion from OP thread but you can also buy Honda premix antifreeze from the Honda car dealer much cheaper than a quart at a time from the MC dealer.
That's what I do. About 22 bucks a gallon from my Honda auto store. I use it in all my bikes.
 
Back to my standard, personal, time-honored motto:
"Never pay retail."
Corollary, with the new-to-some parts interchange-ability:
"If you're going to pay retail, find the cheapest retailer."
😂😂😂😂
 
It used to be you could buy 'buckets of bolts' on Fleabay for about $50 where people would part out a ST1100.
You got enough 5 mm pan head screws in the deal that more than paid for the price at Honda 'rates'.
Now they want to sell you each screw at a premium ... ;)
 
So far, found them new at between $3.50 to $6 EACH.
Good thing ya only need a half-a-million on the bikes.
But 2 gazillion on a doggone car!
 
Working on ST's is still rather smooth, open an (online) fiche, select the loc # and get the full P/N... ready to order...

On older Honda's not quite as easy, having to decipher badly scanned part books pages, etc...
I found it humorous that you differentiated STs from "older" Hondas, and I suspect young people would find it even more humorous.
 
Somewhat on topic:
Has anyone ever found paint that matched the greenish-black color on many of the OEM fasteners (ST1100 fairing pocket screws, for example)?
 
Slight diversion from OP thread...
Well...

... at least no one came up with "... my ST1300..." ...

... yet... ;)

and as @Larry Fine clarified (and obvious due the P/N nomenclature) does this cover Honda's from the 70ies...
Has anyone ever found paint that matched the greenish-black color on many of the OEM fasteners (ST1100 fairing pocket screws, for example)?
Originally/early ST model years: black zinc chromatic plating... Chrome(VI)...
now banned for health concerns, whilst the now used Chrome(IV)-free alternatives are by far not as corrosion resistant as the old original bolts and screws... :(
(same with a lot of other fasteners where real SS on early models got replaced with an obviously cheaper, rather fast rusting alloys...)
 
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Back to my standard, personal, time-honored motto:
"Never pay retail."
Dunno...
you might rethink that 'uncle scrooge' mindset when it comes to safety relevant items like brakes, steering or suspension...

like P/N 90107-MT3-003, BOLT,FLANGE, 8X32...

two of those holding your RH brake caliper bracket to the fork bottom...
despite the carefully applied max torque of 27Nm can they be only reused like 5, maybe 6 times at max(!) before showing signs of stretching... ⚠️
using a regular M8 bold sourced at the local hardware store (or a rusty one found in ol' granddad's shed...)?!... nah!! 🤔
The almost 5 bucks a piece are well worth my peace of mind when hammering on those stoppers while streaming down a steep alpine pass...
 
Dunno...
you might rethink that 'uncle scrooge' mindset when it comes to safety relevant items like brakes, steering or suspension...

like P/N 90107-MT3-003, BOLT,FLANGE, 8X32...

two of those holding your RH brake caliper bracket to the fork bottom...
despite the carefully applied max torque of 27Nm can they be only reused like 5, maybe 6 times at max(!) before showing signs of stretching... ⚠️
using a regular M8 bold sourced at the local hardware store (or a rusty one found in ol' granddad's shed...)?!... nah!! 🤔
The almost 5 bucks a piece are well worth my peace of mind when hammering on those stoppers while streaming down a steep alpine pass...
While I agree that none of us would really miss the $10 we're being gouged by Honda for those bolts, there are lots of M8 flange bolts available that will equal what Honda chose for much less money.

Depending on where you live, it may not be worth the trouble acquiring something similar, unless you have a decent bolt supplier in the area.
 
While I agree that none of us would really miss the $10 we're being gouged by Honda for those bolts, there are lots of M8 flange bolts available that will equal what Honda chose for much less money.

Depending on where you live, it may not be worth the trouble acquiring something similar, unless you have a decent bolt supplier in the area.
Again, besides the point...

The link posted matters classic motorcycles...
Not something one would force a drywall screw into...
 
It used to be you could buy 'buckets of bolts' on Fleabay for about $50 where people would part out a ST1100.
You got enough 5 mm pan head screws in the deal that more than paid for the price at Honda 'rates'.
Now they want to sell you each screw at a premium ... ;)

One reason I have so many ST1300 bolts & ect.

Just a small portion of them...
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Over the years, I have bought a number of those "lots". :)
 
Again, besides the point...

The link posted matters classic motorcycles...
Not something one would force a drywall screw into...
Not sure what your message means, are you saying that Honda has the only bolt in the world that is acceptable for that application?
 
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