2003 ST1300 deceleration Question

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Just bought the bike and I'm coming from a Harley DYNA. When letting off the gas it engine breaks hard. It's so different then what I'm used to. Is this normal?
Also looking for a MCL Highway peg on the left side. Previous owner had it open and back outed of garage.
Thanks
Mark Blake
 
Just bought the bike and I'm coming from a Harley DYNA. When letting off the gas it engine breaks hard. It's so different then what I'm used to. Is this normal?
Also looking for a MCL Highway peg on the left side. Previous owner had it open and back outed of garage.
Thanks
Mark Blake
If your used to free wheeling when off the throttle, then yes, you will think it engine breaks hard.. something to get used to and use it to work for you. It took me a while to get used to it, now I love it.
 
I use compression braking to a point then apply clutch/brakes to complete my stop. Stopping from slow speeds, say 30 mph or under or bumper to bumper traffic...just clutch and brake. You'll get used to it.
 
You'll save a ton on brake parts like pads and rotors using compression braking.
Not sure if your previous bike had LBS "linked braking system". That takes a bit of getting used to too.
I use my front brake lever 98% of the time when braking on the ST.
Change your brake and clutch fluid every couple years too.
 
A number of guys found the instant fuel injection cut off when closing the throttle bothersome, and that can be alleviated somewhat by adjusting free play of the cables and installing a throttle tamer grip on the right handlebar. The cam has a different profile and eases the transition from on to off. Other guys simply say it just takes careful application and closing of the throttle and if you pay attention, you can learn to reduce/eliminate that sudden cut-off. I know that is not what you posted, but the sudden braking at 'off throttle' is part of what you are feeling.
 
Engine braking is a good thing with a spirited riding, especially in the corners. No need to use brakes which a. takes more time and b. upsetting the bike dynamics.
Um, brake pads are cheaper than engines.
Which would you rather replace?
Also, when used smoothly, brakes do NOT upset the bike dynamics, to the contrary -- whilst cornering, slowing with the brakes can settle the bike into the turn, allowing more traction. (a very good thing) This also gives you a more stable platform to smoothly drive out of the corner.
This is why the MSF uses Slow, Look, Press, Roll as the primary cornering technique.
Slowing before the corner loads the front suspension, stabilizes the bike for the turn, and allows a steady throttle (or better yet, throttle roll-on) to exit.
I disagree with the "takes more time" comment, also... can we stop quicker with brakes, or engine braking?
Now that I've essentially peed in the pool, I'll say that I do, in fact, use engine braking at times. And I don't "always" brake for every corner.
I don't know of many instances in riding, or maybe I'm too lazy to ponder it at the moment, where there is a hard and fast rule to apply to every conceivable riding situation.
Except don't stall the bike leaving a traffic signal, don't run out of fuel, and keep air in the tyres.
 
An alternative, sort of a training drill, is Keith Code's "No Brakes Drill", fun while riding downhill through curvy stretches.
Anyhoo... there's no argument that proper cornering techniques is a vital skill for all riders, no matter the individual situation. The majority - by far - of single- vehicle motorcycle crashes occur, you guessed it, in curves.
That's due to weak cornering skills and poor decision making.
In unfamiliar territory, going in slow and exiting under acceleration is regarded the best practice.
Still, we will have different conditions, different skill levels, and even different goals. Sometimes we want to go smoothly through a series of corners (I'm thinking Deals Gap), and other times we want to attack the corners a bit more aggressively.
While the principles are unchanged, minor tweaks or process may vary, depending on your intent.
The principles apply to roadracing as well, but with more advanced techniques and deviations.
Regardless, smoothness will ALWAYS pay you dividends, not to mention the higher style points.
 
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