Adjust your Counter Balancers!

tdeboeser

tdeboeser

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Among other maintence items and farkles I've done over the last month or so, I adjusted the counter balancers. All I can say is if your between 8k-10k miles ...

ADJUST THEM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!:03biker:

Wow, wow wow!!! So smooth, so fast, so so nice. I wish I were eloquent enough to discribe how she runs now.

Tom de
 
Why? It does absolutely nothing to the counter balancers themselves, it just adjusts the gear train lash to quiet the motor.
 
Ok, but I'm just going by the seat of my pants. And it is much better ( much much ). Buttery smooth, which makes all the wonderful aspects of the motor even better. Plus it's pretty simple to do.

After 10k, ( since the last adjustment ) it really made a difference to me. Could be subjective tho. Made her feel like new...

Tom de
 
tdeboeser said:

ADJUST THEM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!:03biker:
Wow, wow wow!!! So smooth, so fast, so so nice. I wish I were eloquent enough to discribe how she runs now.
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I think I'll do this as soon as I get her back together! :D

Kinda tough to do it with her like this.
 
danf said:
I think I'll do this as soon as I get her back together! :D

Kinda tough to do it with her like this.
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Ummm, me thinks you need a little more than a CB adjustment :D. I noticed a lot of misc. ST1300 parts on ebay last night. Good luck on your rebuilt.

Tom de
 
I should let this go but I can't.

I'm not an engineer, mechanic, or tech. of any type but I've been wrenching my own bikes for 30+ years. If any of the aforementioned professionals can study the parts diagram below and explain how the balance shaft "backlash adjustment" on page 12-12 of the service manual can have any effect on the weights I'll listen. Keep in mind that the balancer gear and weight assembly spins on the shaft, driven by the gear train. They are not directly attached with a pin and they ride on needle bearings. Turning the shaft itself during the procedure can not change the relative position of the balance weights to each other or the crank. I do however believe in the placebo effect.

Anyone?
 

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tdeboeser said:
Ummm, me thinks you need a little more than a CB adjustment :D. I noticed a lot of misc. ST1300 parts on ebay last night. Good luck on your rebuilt.
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Thanks - kinda taking my time on it - hope to finish mid-March. Don't need any of the internals that are on ebay and got most of the plastics already. I think at this point I need a cowl stay, right fork, and front wheel and then I'll be ready to start putting her back together. :D
 
tdeboeser said:
I have the server manual, but I found the link above to sufficient - maybe better.

Tom de
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I'm of the opinion that you can't have too much data at hand when doing maintenance! Different perspectives often compliment one another, and can make the task easier to understand and accomplish.:)

Rob, any chance we'll be doing a cb adj. at TechSTOC?
 
Fred D said:
I'm of the opinion that you can't have too much data at hand when doing maintenance! Different perspectives often compliment one another, and can make the task easier to understand and accomplish.:)

Rob, any chance we'll be doing a cb adj. at TechSTOC?
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I agree, can't have too much info. But info from someone whos done it goes a long way.

Tom de
 
Killtimer said:
I should let this go but I can't.

I'm not an engineer, mechanic, or tech. of any type but I've been wrenching my own bikes for 30+ years. If any of the aforementioned professionals can study the parts diagram below and explain how the balance shaft "backlash adjustment" on page 12-12 of the service manual can have any effect on the weights I'll listen. Keep in mind that the balancer gear and weight assembly spins on the shaft, driven by the gear train. They are not directly attached with a pin and they ride on needle bearings. Turning the shaft itself during the procedure can not change the relative position of the balance weights to each other or the crank. I do however believe in the placebo effect.

Anyone?
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I'll be the first to admit I don't understand the why's or what for's when adjusting the counterbalancers. I didn't think my ST was even noisy before I adjusted mine. I did it as an 'it couldn't hurt'. I couldn't believe how quiet and smooth it got. I was truly amazed.

I too highly recommend adjusting the counterbalancers.

Ray
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Killtimer said:
I should let this go but I can't.
I do however believe in the placebo effect.

Anyone?
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I can't explain it, but I'm very sure it's not placebo. As you adjust them you can hear how rough the motor gets. Part of the service manual says to listen for the roughness and back off. The motor also shakes, with the rough noise.

However it works I'm glad I did it,

Tom de
 
I have heard many say they have done the adjustment and it helps. I will likely check when mine starts some vibration. At more than 10,000 miles mine just purrs. :03biker:
 
Placebo? Ummm, no, as when my bike gets 'out' of adjustment, my right hand grip buzzes enough to make my hand go numb when riding in SPORT-touring mode.

After a micro adjustment, I can get it to go away. No more numb hand.

What I don't understand is, what causes it to go out of adjusment?
 
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Fred, If your new bike needs a CB adjust. I can ride up to your place or you can come down to my place, eather or. Once the plactic is removed to acess th adjusters the process takes five to 10 min. By the way I did not get the dealer assembly instuctions sent yet but will get to it this week. sorry.
 
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