Aussie ST grounded - no Moly paste

Duporth

Duporth

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No, this is not a ‘Moly thread’ but;

I have researched availability in Australia of Moly Paste suitable for the ST’s drive splines and there is none in the country. None at all, in any part of our wide brown land, none! So, I have grounded my ST and will have to import Moly paste from across the globe. How can this be I ask?

I hope no Aussie jet aircraft, heavy highway transport, railways engines, turbines and other machinery need Moly paste ‘cause there’s none here!

btw; I am also puzzled why manufacturers of Moly paste hide the Molybdenum content of their MP, in their technical specification, nowhere to be found (?)

Grounded and Puzzled D :rolleyes:
 
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Hi Duporth, that’s an interesting situation. Begs a few questions.

What state are your splines in? Is there any grease left in the vicinity?

Why would Moly be so hard to find? Australia seems to be a fairly normal country, given what I’ve seen in TV shows like “Wanted” and the odd comment from a friend living in Perth...

Maybe not the ringing endorsement I thought it might be...

Hmmm...

Anyway, I assumed that MSDS sheets were the norm and should have the info that you need. That’s not the case?

The BMW crowd have the same issues, especially the K series. Could they have a stash? :)
 
There's a Loctite equivalent to the original Honda moly paste. Is that available in Oz? Here's the US Amazon link for reference; presumably you need a different version Down Under.

 
Thanks very much everyone. I will import some suitable Moly paste. It should only take 2-3 weeks to arrive.
I have a few other jobs to do on my ST while waiting, including a recently found slow coolant drip from behind the inner central cowl (behind the front wheel).
Thanks again chaps.
D
 
Duporth said:
Thanks very much everyone. I will import some suitable Moly paste. It should only take 2-3 weeks to arrive.
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What do other motorcycle brands do? Do BMW's use high content moly paste? Do BMW dealerships have some and might they give you a dab until your order arrives? Maybe other shaft drive brands? How can a modern, industrialized society not have all the greases and lubricants used all over the world?

Maybe try rendered beef tallow ('roo tallow?) mixed w/ 65% graphite and colloidal teflon? :rofl1:
 
Duporth said:
btw; I am also puzzled why manufacturers of Moly paste hide the Molybdenum content of their MP, in their technical specification, nowhere to be found (?)
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One guess would be that the exact figure isn't nearly as critical as various motorcycle forums have suggested, and that moly paste is moly paste. I know there are some reports of M-77 not working so well for some users, but I think in general the various types of moly paste have all worked more or less the same in this application.
 
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Can't you just put some heat resisting grease, like wheel bearings grease?
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the high moly content paste is the recommended lubricant for this application. But having said that, I've never followed that rule very closely and my splines still look new after 23 years and 116k miles so I wouldn't ground the bike over not having it available at tire change time. Most of the time I just put the wheel back on with the old moly on the splines, its pretty tacky so it stays in place a long time. I think standard practice here is to clean all the old moly off and reapply new moly, but I've only done that a couple times in the 23 years I've owned mine and it didn't seem to cause any problems to my bike. YMMV
 
I am glad it isn't turning into a Moly thread.
:rofl1:. :bigpop:. :crackup:.
Is this available down under Cobber.
ts-70-moly-pastelwp-ts-moly-lubricants-inc.jpg.
Good reports on here last week.
Good luck and make sure you get the stuff that stays on upside down.
Upt'North.
 
Duporth said:
No, this is not a ‘Moly thread’ but;
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I am also puzzled why manufacturers of Moly paste hide the Molybdenum content of their MP, in their technical specification, nowhere to be found (?)
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LOL ... the question assures the outcome being a Moly thread. :D

Upt' North said:
I am glad it isn't turning into a Moly thread.
:rofl1:. :bigpop:. :crackup:...
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I know, right?! :D
 
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This stuff is made in NSW and available easily on this side of the moat.

www.itwpf.com.au

GA50 - Moly based assembly & anti-seize compound containing 50% Molybdenum Disulphide - Molybond Lubricants

Molybond® GA50 is an assembly compound containing 50% of molybdenum disulphide in a lithium-based grease used as an anti-seize and anti-scuffing compound for metal parts which may reach temperatures up to 400°C. Molybond® GA50 has excellent anti-seize capabilities compared to nickel and copper...
www.itwpf.com.au www.itwpf.com.au

"GA50 – An assembly compound containing 50% of molybdenum disulphide in a lithium based grease used as an anti-seize and anti-scuffing compound for metal parts which may reach temperatures up to 400°C. It has excellent anti-seize capabilities compared to nickel and copper based anti-seize compounds and is extremely effective in preventing fretting corrosion in closely fitted parts assembled using freezing or heating techniques. It can be used for mechanisms which may not be lubricated during service life."
 
I used Heavy Duty Extreme Pressure Moly grease like for CV joints & wheel bearings , since the late '70s with no problems , Hadn't even heard of the "paste" for all those earlier years.
 
Duporth said:
So, I have grounded my ST and will have to import Moly paste from across the globe.
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Duporth, if I remember correctly, Honda's maintenance manual only "recommend" the use of moly paste. It doesn't say it is mandatory.

My point, is that you don't have to ground your bike. I'm in the same situation than you. I do believe that moly paste is "the right stuff" to put in there. I'm also having difficulties to find some localy. Can you believe my own honda dealer never heard of it.
So, I finally found a Canadian retailer, but until I get it, I simply put a good bearing grease, formulated for high speed bearings, high pressure, high temps, etc.

It will do for the rest of the season.


ChriSTian
 
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Christian, here is a Canadian source that should have stock . My last order took all of 1 day to get to me.

I’ve used the 65% on the GL650, several BMW’s and the ST so far and no issues.

If you or anyone else needs some in Canada, I have lots. And with the promise of good food and wine at some point in the future, I would send some your way at no charge.

Not cheap plonk with KFC but good bistro food and glass of a reasonable Burgundy. Or two... Maybe tree?!
 
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