aniwack
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If that were the case, they wouldn't make them in the first place.I don't just think it's because they won't or can't be bothered.
This market is tiny in global terms, why bother when you can sell millions of 125's in Asia?
Upt.
It takes A LOT to meet U.S. noise regulations. Part of that is anticipation of future upgrades that increases noise. Pretty much everyone immediately puts in louder muffler right away. That's why different muffler is often not used to lower noise compared to EU models, too easy to defeat.The new TransAlp was developed about five years ago, and Honda held off on production and release due to concerns it would eat Africa Twin sales. By the time they decided to release the production, noise rules that had been scheduled for a decade went into place in the US.
Well, it didn't pass American requirements. Because they delayed. Honda's answer for the US-spec bike was to de-tune the engine with an ECU re-flash.
What they *could* have done was to put a different muffler on it. But in the interest of avoiding additional parts sourcing, they made the bike worse with software.
Fortnite's video is... Yeah. It's missing the mark.
I first saw it pop up on the Advriders subreddit. Top comment on that post was someone arguing that we have become too complacent with the government making laws for helmets and mandatory liability insurance. That kind of kicks off the audience he's catering to.
Having gone ahead and watched the video, he just doesn't make the point he claims to be making.
The new TransAlp was developed about five years ago, and Honda held off on production and release due to concerns it would eat Africa Twin sales. By the time they decided to release the production, noise rules that had been scheduled for a decade went into place in the US.
Well, it didn't pass American requirements. Because they delayed. Honda's answer for the US-spec bike was to de-tune the engine with an ECU re-flash.
What they *could* have done was to put a different muffler on it. But in the interest of avoiding additional parts sourcing, they made the bike worse with software.
It's not an EPA or DOT or NHTSA thing. It's a Honda thing. They won't release the $16,000 NT1100 here because they want people to spend $40K on a Goldwing. They won't make the $10,000 TransAlp good because they want people to spend $18,000 on the good Africa Twin.
It's infuriating that Honda has decided not to give us options. Not because "the government won't let them" but because they're so convinced that it will hurt their sales to field sport tourers and smaller dual sports.
I think so much of it is the relative autonomy the different divisions run with.Just wondering if Honda, like many of our other industries that were once established and operated by fans/participants, is being run by the proverbial bean counters and visionless, opportunistic, interchangeable, corporation resellers.
What's to stop someone from buying one there and shipping it here?They won't release the $16,000 NT1100 here because they want people to spend $40K on a Goldwing.
Won’t meet EPA/DOT regulations. You’d have to go through certification process which can be co$tly... if even possible.What's to stop someone from buying one there and shipping it here?
What's to stop someone from buying one there and shipping it here?
Good information.Just a list of requirements that needs to be met. Below are the EPA Regs. Maybe buying a US version and then replace or flash the ECU with the desired one.
To paraphrase Simon and Garfunkel, "Congress like a cancer grows . . . "Yet it continues, and it grows with every spending bill passed in DC.
It's not eligible for import for 25 years.What's to stop someone from buying one there and shipping it here?
The purpose of the EPA is to ban your use of motorcycles.EPA's been doing it for years. But why worry I've heard if the American government gets their way by 2027 only a hybrid vehicle or electric will be able to meet vehicle emissions will be able to be sold here in the USA.
As far as the EPA goes...what I wrote above still applies. The EPA worker is thinking, "Motorcycles are unsafe. They are noisy. And while I'm sitting in traffic, they are zipping right by me! What right do they have to do that?!?!" So the unelected EPA worker can't ban them outright, but they can force regulations on the manufacturers to the point you won't find it fun or worthwhile to buy.
We have to face it, like it or not, the govt is becoming serious about air pollution, and we will not be able to continue to pollute as much as we want, without repercussions