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Hey I just caught this on another forum showing the adaptive headlight in motion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtBCrJUDoiU&app=desktop
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtBCrJUDoiU&app=desktop
Danny, the BMW one has moving parts, whereas the FJR's apparently has sequential LED's that light up as lean angle changes.
My 07 had holes drilled in the front fairing for the police bars. I'm thinking about building a set of cornering lights to fill these holes.....
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BakerBoy
It's all small stuff.
What I noticed (in order) is: a smooth engine, an unrefind loud klunk into 1st gear, and great lighting!
I'm not an FJR owner and only have one test ride under my belt, but what's "perfect" about the current 5th gear on the FJR? When I test rode an FJR this spring for about 90 minutes I rode in all kinds of conditions, including freeway. I had even more of a sense of wanting a 6th gear on the FJR than I get on my ST1300?? It just didn't feel right to me. Don't know if it was engine noise or a buzzy feeling, but it just felt wrong for cruising down the freeway. I understand what you might be saying about the taller 1st and 2nd gears being an issue, but what's wrong with a taller/over-drive 6th being added?
How is the light moving?... the bike is stationary and not leaning when the light is moving. I thought the LEDS came on progressively as the bank angle increased?
I wonder how he controlled the adaptive headlight like that? It doesn't move like that unless you're leaning the bike.
Of course, the video also shows a non-standard item on his bike which is called the "digital dash". That is CBDane's invention. Must be him manipulating it somehow.
Of course, the video also shows a non-standard item on his bike which is called the "digital dash". That is CBDane's invention. Must be him manipulating it somehow.
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Train killer
He describes in one of the threads he pulled the adaptive headlight module lose and is leaning it with his hands. Right in front of the battery, black box the size of a bar of soap.
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Same old. Really? The 2016 FJR ES has more changes/updates from 2015 than the ST1300 got in its entire production run. That's why I got tired of waiting for Honda and bought a 2014 FJR ES in Jan '14. 41k fun and trouble-free miles so far. This thing rocks!
Norm Kern
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Shoot you can't hide money Big Ron, I mean you try, but don't do a good job of it.
"you're the double dipper. How long 'til the triple dipping starts?"
19 months?? LOL.
Man I feel a Key West trip coming on. You in? Late Jan?
"you're the double dipper. How long 'til the triple dipping starts?"
19 months?? LOL.
Man I feel a Key West trip coming on. You in? Late Jan?
I wasn't really commenting on 5 th gear itself, but the FJR 5 speed is the best spaced ratios I've ever come across. Works in all conditions in conjunction with the extra horsepower, you really need to ride under all conditions over time. There are those who would like a taller top gear to lower the rpm's on freeways, but honestly, you don't need it unless you are cruising at 80 or more all day long. I'm not usually on freeways for too long. Part of this engine noise or buzzy is simply there is a big difference between an inline four and a V-4. Just accept that most inlines will be buzzier at 4000 rpm. Anyway, I have never felt the need for a taller 5th gear (and sometimes I actually get better fuel mileage in certain conditions in 4th). If a taller top gear makes the engine work harder, then fuel mileage is likely to suffer, but Yamaha says fuel mileage isn't changing.
The FJR's 2006-up got taller 1st & 2nd gears from prior, which aren't bad, but I was disappointed to see they even made them taller for 2016. 3rd stayed the same and they just narrowed all the gears around 3rd, then added 6th as a bit taller overdrive over the current 5th. Of course, none of us has ridden one, and we don't know that 6th appreciably changes top gear rpms... if it only changes is a couple of hundred, then OK, but for all other riding, it is expected one is going to be doing more gear changes than with the 5 speed. Obviously, I am in the camp of 'we didn't need no stinkin' 6 speed' but I'll keep an open mind until the final data on ratios is in and hopefully a good test ride. Still going to be a great bike.
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wjbertrand
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I can't help thinking Yamaha plans to use that inertial sensing system for more than just the cornering lights. Perhaps, if not for the 2016 model (and not yet announced), in future model years it will be integrated into the ABS/TCS systems similar to what KTM and BMW are doing with their cornering ABS systems.
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Guy, did you ever fix that bike that was filling up your boots with gas?
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It's all small stuff.
IMO, the item missing on this bike: TPMS. Who hasn't had a tire go down without knowing it until the bike acts erratically?? Of course TPMS aftermarket systems exist (like I use on my ST), but TPMS should be standard/integrated by now. My two cents.
Norm, I think the same as you: we're only seeing the start of the use of IMU's/sensors in motorcycles, and more specifically I expect these cornering lights are simply the first application of a new IMU or angle sensor in the FJR. I would also assume that there likely is more functionality planned for future model years, and also that there's perhaps a black box onboard this 2016 which records/stores such data for crash investigations.
Norm, I think the same as you: we're only seeing the start of the use of IMU's/sensors in motorcycles, and more specifically I expect these cornering lights are simply the first application of a new IMU or angle sensor in the FJR. I would also assume that there likely is more functionality planned for future model years, and also that there's perhaps a black box onboard this 2016 which records/stores such data for crash investigations.
Good thoughts, all. The other thing it still needs is self-cancelling turn signals. Intriguing thought about the black box! Wonder if there is one...
Norm Kern
With TPMS, perhaps one should be careful what you wish for...... it would likely be similar to an OEM automotive system..... or from my bit of research into the C14 system (C14 owners maybe can chime in).... the sensors in general contain non-replaceable batteries, thus in about 5 years, you go to your dealer to buy new sensors and have them programmed to the bike (you can't do this yourself). Partzilla lists sensors at U$180+ each. There was an older version on C14's that did not have potted sensors and there have been successful DIY replacements of the batteries on those.
A little math tells me if sensors replaced, $360+labour is way more than a good aftermarket system will ever cost you. For example, Garmin has one in a couple of their newer GPS's, basically sensors are $140 and have replaceable batteries.....
A little math tells me if sensors replaced, $360+labour is way more than a good aftermarket system will ever cost you. For example, Garmin has one in a couple of their newer GPS's, basically sensors are $140 and have replaceable batteries.....
thumperjdm
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One of the features I absolutely love about my Triumphs Explorer and Trophy is that you can program your turn signals in the Set-Up menu for either Manual, or Self-Canceling. I hate self-canceling signals, but I know there's a whole other camp that loves them. I think all full-sized/luxury bikes these days should give you the option.
I have a SmarTyre TPMS system on my ST1300. I prefer it to just about every other system as it compensates for temp change and won't alarm unless Pv=nRT tells the system there is an actual loss, or gain, in pressure. It also reports tire temps. My sensors have worked for nearly 10 years. I got a few spares before they stopped making them just in case.