March 2012 code
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I hear that !I don't think my current Battlax's or new BS tires are going to kill me or anything, it more that I don't like the way this is being handled on their end.
Very well put, and my exact position as well! While I have some concern about their statement about knowing others have cracked as well...there hasn't been anything said on any of the forums, so they are most likely very rare cases. But like you, its their handling of it that bothers me. It would have made me feel a lot better for them to show some concern, rather than a quick warranty denial (I don't even care about the warranty). Maybe actually talk to me, ask me some questions, etc. If I ever manufactured any kind of product, and someone sent me photos of it in such a damaged state, I would be ensuring there were no injuries, then investigating why it happened and making it right.I don't think my current Battlax's or new BS tires are going to kill me or anything, it more that I don't like the way this is being handled on their end.
Very well put, and my exact position as well!Very well put, and my exact position as well! While I have some concern about their statement about knowing others have cracked as well...there hasn't been anything said on any of the forums, so they are most likely very rare cases. But like you, its their handling of it that bothers me. It would have made me feel a lot better for them to show some concern, rather than a quick warranty denial (I don't even care about the warranty). Maybe actually talk to me, ask me some questions, etc. If I ever manufactured any kind of product, and someone sent me photos of it in such a damaged state, I would be ensuring there were no injuries, then investigating why it happened and making it right.
Funny, but this tire was mounted in the correct direction. The first tire I had backwards, I did this one the other way to compare tire live and handling. I mounted the new one backwards...not that I felt that had anything to do with it, I just went with what I know worked well before.Not saying this has anything to do with it but I know a lot of people that run DD run that tire backwards. Which way did you have it mounted?
I was interested because it could be a factor. The idea from my understanding is that the tire is designed to provide traction under a force direction. Not sure I am explaining that right but under acceleration on a rear tire it is going in one direction but the front won't experience those forces in that direction as it would be a braking force more than anything else. So by mounting it the way it should be (if it were a rear tire) may be backwards to the way the tire was designed. I am sure you are aware of this Jim so it is more a comment for those that are scratching their heads as we are talking about mounting a tire backwards to intended direction of rotation. Maybe it played a factor? It is worth noting as we collect information in the event someone else sees something like this. Which way was the tire mounted.Funny, but this tire was mounted in the correct direction. The first tire I had backwards, I did this one the other way to compare tire live and handling. I mounted the new one backwards...not that I felt that had anything to do with it, I just went with what I know worked well before.
Mike is probably right, it most likely is still the cold & roads that did it.
From my understanding the direction is more a factor of the tread design for expelling water than a belt design. And looking at the cracking, and the way it radiates out from certain points on each side of the tire, I'm going along with the theory that the tire couldn't handle the cold and cracked when hitting bumps. We do have plenty of those!I was interested because it could be a factor. The idea from my understanding is that the tire is designed to provide traction under a force direction. Not sure I am explaining that right but under acceleration on a rear tire it is going in one direction but the front won't experience those forces in that direction as it would be a braking force more than anything else. So by mounting it the way it should be (if it were a rear tire) may be backwards to the way the tire was designed. I am sure you are aware of this Jim so it is more a comment for those that are scratching their heads as we are talking about mounting a tire backwards to intended direction of rotation. Maybe it played a factor? It is worth noting as we collect information in the event someone else sees something like this. Which way was the tire mounted.
I should also note that this isn't out of the norm. I have had non-darkside tires that I swore I had one mounted the wrong way when you compared tread pattern in the front vs rear. But when you look at the arrows they were mounted in the correct orientation.
I agree that water is a primary reason. Not sure about the directional forces. May be an issue with some tires and not others.From my understanding the direction is more a factor of the tread design for expelling water than a belt design. And looking at the cracking, and the way it radiates out from certain points on each side of the tire, I'm going along with the theory that the tire couldn't handle the cold and cracked when hitting bumps. We do have plenty of those!
+1 Tread design for water management is primary reason behind rotation direction. I get a kick hearing folks try to explain that a rear tire is designed for torque only while accelerating. Since the rear tire is also subject to torque in the opposite direction when braking, its construction must compensate for both. Granted, most braking forces are imparted on the front tire, the rear tire will see various amounts of braking forces depending on how the vehicle is loaded (front-rear weight bias).From my understanding the direction is more a factor of the tread design for expelling water than a belt design.