Crashed my ST last Thursday. Now...decisions to make

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Hey Mike....glad you're ok. You're in GLIDE... I think I may have seen you around Roseburg on a black ST13 and a Aerostitch. You can't miss me with my silver ST11 and Hi-Viz Aerostitch.

I think I'd price replacing the damaged parts.
 
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I know lots of guys advocate buying bikes back from the insurance company and fixing it yourself, but I wouldn't normally do that and I like wrenching on things. If its wrecked and has enough damage to total it, I just don't want anything to do with it. Especially at the price of plastic parts. However, if yours is relatively unscathed, and it sounds like it is, and it's just that stay that's bent then this may be the exception.
 
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Yes used. Budget probably 13,000 max.
My local Honda/Yamaha dealer has a few left over 2012 FJR's for under 13,000. Seems like a great deal for someone who has the budget. Perhaps your local dealer may want to help you into a new bike.
 

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It is the front left frame part that supports the dash and windscreen. Is that the front cowl support?
As previously mentioned, yes it is the cowl support. It mounts to the frame and then everything else on the front mounts to it. Once it is bent nothing lines up until it is straightened or replaced.
 
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Hi Gymbo. Yep, that's me. Nice to know there is another ST rider in the Roseburg area. Any suggestions where to have the work done that I may not be able to do? I have usually gone to Jeremy at Pape who has worked on my bikes for years. I should be able to replace the Tupperware myself.

Hey Mike....glad you're ok. You're in GLIDE... I think I may have seen you around Roseburg on a black ST13 and a Aerostitch. You can't miss me with my silver ST11 and Hi-Viz Aerostitch.

I think I'd price replacing the damaged parts.
 
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I hope to hear from the adjuster today. The bike slid on both sides so there is a lot of plastic to replace.

I know lots of guys advocate buying bikes back from the insurance company and fixing it yourself, but I wouldn't normally do that and I like wrenching on things. If its wrecked and has enough damage to total it, I just don't want anything to do with it. Especially at the price of plastic parts. However, if yours is relatively unscathed, and it sounds like it is, and it's just that stay that's bent then this may be the exception.
 
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Actually I love my 1300 and I am very impressed with well it held up despite the severe damage it sustained. I also like it better than any other bike I have had.

It sounds like you weren't happy with your 1300, so get something else. I like my 1300 better than any bike I've owner or ridden.
 

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Hi Gymbo. Yep, that's me. Nice to know there is another ST rider in the Roseburg area. Any suggestions where to have the work done that I may not be able to do? I have usually gone to Jeremy at Pape who has worked on my bikes for years. I should be able to replace the Tupperware myself.
That's probably where I would go for work. Only other options would be Absolute and Zoom...and I have no experience with either of them.

If you need any help with anything, give me a shout...I don't know my way around a 13 like I do the 11's...but I'd be happy to lend a hand.
 

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Actually I love my 1300 and I am very impressed with well it held up despite the severe damage it sustained. I also like it better than any other bike I have had.
Good reason to fix this one up or replace it with another ST1300 :bl13:

I'm working on my third wrecked ST1300 in replacing hard parts and plastic. Hopefully the Insurance will give you a good break and let you buy the bike back for less than $1,500. Any more than that, could cost you too much in plastic to make it worth your while. And buying it back and trying to part it out isn't worth it either!

Here are some pics of the work I've been doing on these three bikes. It should give you some ideas at what you are looking at!

Wrecked2004

Wrecked2004_no2

Wrecked2010

Transplant 2004-to-2010

Restore-10-to-04

Restoring_2010_Blue

Good Luck!
 
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Actually I love my 1300 and I am very impressed with well it held up despite the severe damage it sustained. I also like it better than any other bike I have had.
I have a friend who owns a 2008 R1200RT and another who owns a 2007 FJR, and I have ridden them both a lot. Both nice bikes, but they just do not "feel" like my old, trusty 2003 ST1300. It may just be what I am used to, and also, I like a V4.

A crash like that can cause frame damage and bends that you will be unable to see. Only a specalized frame shop with truing jigs can tell you for sure.

If I were in your shoes, I would take all the farkles off my wrecked ST, and get rid of it. Then find a nearly new ABS model (they are out there) and put said farkles back on.
 

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A crash like that can cause frame damage and bends that you will be unable to see. Only a specalized frame shop with truing jigs can tell you for sure.
These frames aren't like the frames of old. Because of the "crush" zones (Front cowl stay, tipover bars, etc) take up the majority of the impacts (unless it hit something like a cage or a wall), I really doubt if the main part of the frame is tweaked.
 
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What sort of shop could check frame alignment? or can they normally do that at a local motorcycle repair shop?

I have a friend who owns a 2008 R1200RT and another who owns a 2007 FJR, and I have ridden them both a lot. Both nice bikes, but they just do not "feel" like my old, trusty 2003 ST1300. It may just be what I am used to, and also, I like a V4.

A crash like that can cause frame damage and bends that you will be unable to see. Only a specalized frame shop with truing jigs can tell you for sure.

If I were in your shoes, I would take all the farkles off my wrecked ST, and get rid of it. Then find a nearly new ABS model (they are out there) and put said farkles back on.
 
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Here are some pictures.10430386_10204209856385631_1517384605825397182_n.jpg10433936_10204209814264578_3908213644894916963_n.jpg10516683_10204209851985521_2430583678834231483_n.jpg10406719_10204209777943670_7922936523945467629_n.jpg

Good reason to fix this one up or replace it with another ST1300 :bl13:

I'm working on my third wrecked ST1300 in replacing hard parts and plastic. Hopefully the Insurance will give you a good break and let you buy the bike back for less than $1,500. Any more than that, could cost you too much in plastic to make it worth your while. And buying it back and trying to part it out isn't worth it either!

Here are some pics of the work I've been doing on these three bikes. It should give you some ideas at what you are looking at!

Wrecked2004

Wrecked2004_no2

Wrecked2010

Transplant 2004-to-2010

Restore-10-to-04

Restoring_2010_Blue

Good Luck!
 

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Glad your ok , good luck on your search. When I totaled My st1300 in Oct 2011 I broke some ribs and collar bone but I was able one month later to fly to Baltimore MD ride my new st back to ks. I went with the st cuz I had put 67k miles on my first st without a single issue. Love the dependable st 1300
 
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Here are some pictures.10430386_10204209856385631_1517384605825397182_n.jpg10433936_10204209814264578_3908213644894916963_n.jpg10516683_10204209851985521_2430583678834231483_n.jpg10406719_10204209777943670_7922936523945467629_n.jpg
From the pictures, I really doubt if the frame is damaged.... Looks like all the plastic will have to be replaced, the tipover bars, the front cowl stay (and cowls), (really can't tell if saddlebags were buggered up) saddlebag lids, front fender(?), the peg mount on the left side looks to be toast, etc... when you add all of that up, $$$$$. if it was a 2010 or a 2012, I would say it would be worth fixing. Being a 2006....not so sure!

Did the frontend hit anything, like that hill behind the bike, near where they are working on you? If so, the forks could be bent. (another $400)....

Like I said, good luck with it all.
 

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What sort of shop could check frame alignment? or can they normally do that at a local motorcycle repair shop?


G.M.D. Computrack is the shop you want. They do race bikes & quite often even stock bikes that haven't been crashed are out of line. I don't see one in your area but they don't seem to all be listed.

You can string your bike or the test I use is to ride the bike. If you can ride no hands & go straight without having to compensate anywhere, it is fine. Look at the frame carefully. A bent frame will usually have a kink on the opposite side. Take measurements & compare to another bike to see if the forks are bent. Usually a visual will detect that.

Good luck with your decision. Based on the pictures, if it rides straight, I would fix it. Unless the ins co wants to total it & you would like a new bike. Your call at that point.
 
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Insurance has already said that they will likely total it. I will know for sure in the morning.

G.M.D. Computrack is the shop you want. They do race bikes & quite often even stock bikes that haven't been crashed are out of line. I don't see one in your area but they don't seem to all be listed.

You can string your bike or the test I use is to ride the bike. If you can ride no hands & go straight without having to compensate anywhere, it is fine. Look at the frame carefully. A bent frame will usually have a kink on the opposite side. Take measurements & compare to another bike to see if the forks are bent. Usually a visual will detect that.

Good luck with your decision. Based on the pictures, if it rides straight, I would fix it. Unless the ins co wants to total it & you would like a new bike. Your call at that point.
 
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I'm glad you are ok after that high speed get off. Regarding the possible frame damage, I googled G.M.D. Computrack and found they are only in Florida (and Austrailia). Were I looking to check my bike for frame damage, I'd call the guys at MCN Magazine and ask them (on the phone) for suggestions. Seems to me they reviewed some frame shops like GMD, but I might be wrong. Since the engine is a stressed part of the frame, I would not expect much frame damage, but I would worry about the front end. SupraSabre said this would only add $400. Wheel damage? Brake calipers ok? Disks?

In my experience, its the little things, fasteners, specialized nuts, bolts, and clips that we ignore until they are needed that add up $$$ quickly. Make a list of what you need, price it out and go into a rebuild with as much info as you can. Having restored a couple of bikes, at this point I would not want the down time required for a major job like this. If I choose to do it, that's one thing. If I have to do it, its another (and almost like work).

Good luck!
 
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