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[ST1100Y]

Had to deal with a 1300 today, officially only tire change... right...


so some joker used white grease on the splines... seriously?!!
Bearing failure was unavoidable though...




quite some wear...




picking out debris... seal, splinters from the cage...




According to the owner was the last tire change done in a motorcycle workshop... thanks a lot...

They'd also snapped two exhaust clamp bolts, but didn't find the decency to inform the owner...
I'd to remove the clamps, drill out the stubs, re-tap the threads, seek new bolts out my stash, now installed with copper-slip...

The fella wants to leave for Scandinavia this Saturday (hence the short notice tire change), now he has to first chase for those bearings and we'll have to schedule an emergency repair at some evening this week...

Is it really that hard to use the proper lubricants when working on those motorcycles?

 

[970mike]

Some motorcycle shops think that is alright to you any grease on the splines. Make sure to check the inner wheel bearings on the rear wheel and also the front wheel bearings.

 

[Larry Fine]

My local Honda dealer uses regular blue Belray grease.

 

[Sadlsor]

And here, children, we have Reason #835 for why NOT to entrust your 20yo motorcycle to just any dealer for routine service.
Preferably none of them, how are you supposed to bond with your bike if someone else always changes its diapers or puts clothes on it?
I would give those pics to your bike buddy, and have him show them to the servicing dealer.
That is ST abuse.

 

[Igofar]

My local Honda dealer uses regular blue Belray grease.

Probably because the young tech rides dirt bikes and has a tub of belray grease, and knows nothing about ST splines

 

[Igofar]

Had to deal with a 1300 today, officially only tire change... right...


so some joker used white grease on the splines... seriously?!!
Bearing failure was unavoidable though...




quite some wear...




picking out debris... seal, splinters from the cage...




According to the owner was the last tire change done in a motorcycle workshop... thanks a lot...

They'd also snapped two exhaust clamp bolts, but didn't found the decency to inform the owner...
I'd to remove the clamps, drill out the stubs, re-tap the threads, seek new bolts out my stash, now installed with copper-slip...

The fella wants to leave for Scandinavia this Saturday (hence the short notice tire change), now he has to first chase for those bearings and we'll have to schedule an emergency repair at some evening this week...

Is it really that hard to use the proper lubricants when working on those motorcycles?

Pull the spline plate off the wheel, and replace the inner o ring as well, and check for hub damage.
Make sure paste is used on the inner cup side as wellZ

 

[ST1100Y]

Make sure to check the inner wheel bearings on the rear wheel and also the front wheel bearings.

Already done... bearings survived but all seals were dry... repacked them with waterproof marine grease...

 

[ST1100Y]

Pull the spline plate off the wheel, and replace the inner o ring as well, and check for hub damage.
Make sure paste is used on the inner cup side as wellZ

Will take the whole thing apart once we've the spares avail...

I'm fed up though, IMO the splines heated up due the increased friction, liquefying the grease in the bearings, causing them to fail...
Seems I need to stock ST1300 "consumables" too, just in case...

 

[Sadlsor]

At least if you're going to lend a hand and a wrench, while helping others.
You know what YOU got, but you never know what THEY bring in.

 

[Igofar]

Will take the whole thing apart once we've the spares avail...

I'm fed up though, IMO the splines heated up due the increased friction, liquefying the grease in the bearings, causing them to fail...
Seems I need to stock ST1300 "consumables" too, just in case...

Never hurts to have a few parts on hand….just in case

 

[SupraSabre]

@Igofar, Larry, that beats my "extras", by a long shot!

 

[Oldbikefixr]

Never hurts to have a few parts on hand….just in case

I have a habit of buying extras whenever I need to replace a consumable or wear prone part, especially those that are becoming difficult to find. I've had the 1100 for nine years now and this has certainly helped me quickly turn the bike around a time or two. Not so much for the 1300 except for service items....yet.

 

[drawderm]

And here, children, we have Reason #835 for why NOT to entrust your 20yo motorcycle to just any dealer for routine service.
Preferably none of them, how are you supposed to bond with your bike if someone else always changes its diapers or puts clothes on it?
I would give those pics to your bike buddy, and have him show them to the servicing dealer.
That is ST abuse.

I agree, also i don't know how anyone can ride at 70-80 mph and not know for sure that all bearings are greased, final drive has got the proper paste on it and nothing is likely to fall off due to not being tightened correctly etc

 

[Igofar]

The owner of this bike said nothing felt wrong or different on his bike….

 

[SMSW]

The owner of this bike said nothing felt wrong or different on his bike….

I recounted the story of my girlfriend (about 55 years ago) who drove down the freeway at 60 mph on the right rear wheel rim and thought nothing was wrong. The tire had gone flat and self destructed. Maybe she and this guy hooked up?

 

[970mike]

The owner of this bike said nothing felt wrong or different on his bike….

Good for one more trip!!

 

[Mr.E]

Never hurts to have a few parts on hand….just in case

It's no wonder there's a shortage of ST spares ~ Larry has the whole World stock!

Yikes, these are frightening pictures though.

 

[Mellow]

Probably because the young tech rides dirt bikes and has a tub of belray grease, and knows nothing about ST splines

Actually, knows nothing about any splines as moly is needed for all shaft drive bikes.

 

[drawderm]

Actually, knows nothing about any splines as moly is needed for all shaft drive bikes.

Moly paste with a minimum content of 60% molybdenum disulphide or Honda M-77 Assembly Paste (the latter being very very pricey)

 

[Andrew Shadow]

Moly paste with a minimum content of 60% molybdenum disulphide or Honda M-77 Assembly Paste (the latter being very very pricey)

Now you've gone and done it!
M77 Replaces Moly 60- Apparently So