Sorry for getting my terminology mixed... BT-023 has a GT spec, and PR2 a B spec... available in only 180/55.
I have the 180/55/17 PR2 on my ST now and I don't like the way it corners on a tight twisty road. I had this tire start to slide out on me twice on a back road ( Harris Grade Road ) that I ride all the time. I was not pushing the bike hard at all when it slid the first time, my thinking on the first slide was the tire hit the center painted line. On the second slide just up the road I had not touched the painted line. Now I will not take corners very fast with this tire on the rear. I just wanted to post this as I stated on another thread that the 180 tire was handling just fine. I want to replace this tire soon and I am awaiting Tim at twobrothers to send me out the new Shinko tires that I will try. Just my :tc1: Good luck with this tire.Dave and Ray, This is indeed a 180/55-R17 "B" Pilot Road 2. I asked for help with the ply rating because I got conflicting info on the phone. On another thread Mr. Padden and I discussed the possibility of the "B" model meaning bias-ply. We discovered it is not a bias-ply but in fact a radial. I then called Michelin help line and asked to speak to someone in tech support to see what the difference is. That person was very short with me, not wanting to talk. I asked about the difference(s) and all she would repeat is that the "B" is rated differently. I asked if the plies were different. She said, "NO". I asked if the pressure was different and she said, "NO". Me being me, I just had to find out for myself!
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Mr. D-squared:I am looking for some help! Would anyone be willing to go out to your bike (or if you have one unmounted) and look at the sidewall to get the information from a 170/60R17 Pilot Road 2?
I am experimenting! I ordered a new tire from Tim Keel and received it today. I took pictures of the info I wish to compare with a 170/60R17. If some would jot down what the tire says on the sidewall and let me know if/how it differs from this picture. Thanks!
Jeff
If you are riding two up, and ride somewhat at a brisk pace, don't expect any good mileage numbers. See my above post............5100 on one and just under 5000 on the next one......with horrible cupping!!Actually, it was my wife who noticed it first but I wouldn't say the noise was a problem by any means. IMHO the PR2 seems like a good hard wearing touring tyre which I think I'll stick to for now.
I reckon I'll get about 12000 km's out of my current set of PR2's......which I'd be happy with. I never ride hard 2 up......that's probably the main reason for my tyres lasting a bit longer. What pressures were you running?Down Under wrote:
If you are riding two up, and ride somewhat at a brisk pace, don't expect any good mileage numbers. See my above post............5100 on one and just under 5000 on the next one......with horrible cupping!!
I don't have much experience on wet roads as I avoid riding in the wet as much as possible. I'm not an aggressive rider and in 30K miles I've only scraped pegs a few times. The PR2 did not feel any different than the others I had tried as far as grip goes. Now they were noisy after the flat spot wore in the middle and the sides cupped a little, only noisy when you started leaning the bike so I'm sure the cupping was causing the noise. I liked the PR2 but I didn't like the price cause I'm "tighter than Dicks' hatband".lj., did you feel that the handling esp in wet conditions was worth it (PR2's)? I don't mind paying extra if they're safer and more secure.. ."
After wearing out the BT020, if I feel the same way as Mellow, it would be hard for me to justify spending 40% more for the same performance. The PR2 cost me 40% more than the BT020. FWIW.......... Now if the PR2 gave me 40% more miles I would have to re-calculateum...I've done some very wet riding on the PR2s as well as the BS 020s and they both felt very confident. Neither tire ever gave me any problems.
I got 4900-ish miles from my last BS 020. Just some very aggressive twisty riding basically. But, in the past I'd get about 7800 out of an 020 and close to 9500 out of a PR2.After wearing out the BT020, if I feel the same way as Mellow, it would be hard for me to justify spending 40% more for the same performance. The PR2 cost me 40% more than the BT020. FWIW.......... Now if the PR2 gave me 40% more miles I would have to re-calculateum...