Phil : Maybe that's why you have made it to this point / are still respirating and have accumulated all the miles on your bikes.
Come to the BRG and see ;-)... BTW, my 02 ST1100 which I bought brand new had radials on it from the factory, BT054s IIRC. AFAIK, Honda made no changes to the suspension/frame to speak of except on the ABSII models where they increased the fork size from 41mm to 43mm. Don't know if radials were ABSII only deal or if the standards came with radials in the later years also.Phil : Maybe that's why you have made it to this point / are still respirating and have accumulated all the miles on your bikes.
...I suspect that crowd's largest percentage of riding is just 'cruising' down the road without the occassional adrenaline rush 'pushing' things a bit in the twisties, as THAT's when mis-matched tires and modern frame designs WILL rear their ugly head .
++++1! They last forever,are cheap and handle well enough I was scraping the sidestand this week doing a test ride on a new set without trying.They take longer to warm up than modern radial tires but once there will grip just fine and last forever.If you do high mileage and don't want to change tires twice a year they are the way to go.I leave the softer bias ply ST tires for my lighter,sportier bikes.Ducati ST,Moto Guzzi V11,VFR....I also have a '91. For the better part of 21 years and 178K I have been very happy with matched sets of tires that Honda spec'd for our STs: the Bridgestone Exedra G547/G548s. I get mine from my Honda dealer. Honda part numbers. The Honda warehouse is 4 miles away and I've never had a Honda stocked tire that was more than a year old. I recommend them to you... Good handling throughout the life of the tires. I get ~10K on a rear and twice that on a front. YMMV FWIW
Yes. Round and slick can apply to both tires and oil .... and we haven't mentioned those real crazy people who run CAR TIRES in the twisties :shock: ........I'm conflicted ..... can't decide which type of thread is better - an oil or tire thread ???
My point exactly - It ain't so much the tires as the feller that's in the seat ... To assume those who run mixed Bias/Radial combos and/or car tires only poke along means you don't get out much with other folks, I reckon! I've seen some pretty interesting 'combos' at the BRG, where there are a few roads that aren't straight and a few folks that have a good grasp of the throttle. ;-) I remember at the Gap, when Rob ran the store/shop (he used to have an ST1100 and stock ST1100 tires) and he would run the Gap on his little 250 that looked like it had bicycle tires on it. But there were not many that could keep up with him, if my memory serves me correctly.Car tires in the twisties do fine, ride behind Fireman Mike sometime.
YMMV. )
Phil:Yes. Round and slick can apply to both tires and oil .... and we haven't mentioned those real crazy people who run CAR TIRES in the twisties :shock: ........
But Jim, your engine will explode and your hair will turn purple if you mix radial and bias tires or run a car tire and go quickly on a regular basis in the twisties ... I saw it on the internet so it must be truePhil:
The big advantage of a ST1300 over a ST1100 is you can easily fit a CT on a ST1300 !!!
I saw a UTube video of the contact patch on a CT ( mounted on MC ) vs. a MC tire. The guy had a camera mounted real low down at tire level. There really isn't much difference. And Darksiders swear by the CT. Of course much better mileage , AND better handling in the rain and much better rear wheel braking. And then there are the Double Darksiders....... CT on the rear and rear MC tire on the front. Some guys reverse the rotation on the MC tire mounted on the front. Most of these Riders do a lot of LD Riding and need the extra mileage.
No, that is not a very pleasant place to find yourself! However, I find the STs (1100 and 1300) are far more capable motorcycle that those of us who ride them. I know a lot of ST pilots in a lot of places and very few of them can put the bikes to their limits and come back in one piece on a regular basis. A good portion of those that can live across the Pond! ;-)But I'm not about to find where my traction limit is in the turns.
Really Phil ? .1 go to this site and you won't have to guess at your math http://www.bridgestonemotorcycletires.com/2015databook/#5/zReally? I've run several of them and have not noticed the difference to be significant at all. YEMV. Good site to reference for the size differences -
https://www.tacomaworld.com/tirecalc?tires=160-70r17-170-60r17
It appears the circumference difference is .1 inches, the sidewall height difference is .02 inches. ;-)