radar detectors-battery or hard wired?

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Need assistance here. I'd like to purchase a radar detector for my STeed. Should I buy a battery powered or a hard wired model? I don't want spend too much money for one and doesn't have to be waterproof. 100 bucks or less is my budget. I'm thinking of the Whistler model 1788 battery powered with a high visibility bright blue LED window. Any recommendations? Please advise...
 
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I have that model and love it.
Had it velcro'd to top of clutch MS.
Was running on batteries until I hit a bad stretch of road, and the 1788 came undone at 50mph, with parts scattering all over the road when it hit the pavement. Picked up all the pieces, and to my surprise, it still worked!!! However, it now loses power with a slight bump, requiring me to turn it back on. Solution was to use the included cig lighter adapter. Protected again. I also now use a velcro strap that goes all the way around, to make sure it does not go anywhere.

Also did a slight mod. Opened up unit, de-soldered the buzzer, added a few feet of wire, soldered buzzer to end of it. Now, I tuck the buzzer into rear of helmet behind my ear. Can hear warnings loud and clear.
 
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Does it have an audio jack and a speaker? I have one but can't recall the brand. I think it was $120 a few years ago, speaker velcroes inside helmet. I saw a waterproof hard-wired waterproof on in the new products section in Motorcyclist for $309 recently.
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Robs, how long do the batteries last per charge? Also do you use regular double AA batteries? I was thinking of mounting it via velcro-(heavy duty) on top on the dash. Your thoughts?
 
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Khanawalt, no, I don't think it has an audio jack. I was thinking of mounting it on top of the dash so that the high visibility blue LED window on detector will be in good view.
 
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Sorry, I forget exact time batteries last, but based on the trips I take, at least 6 to 8 hours, but then again, maybe 20 hours.... It comes with 4 rechargeable AA batteries and a quick small portable AC charger. Also charges whenever you plug it into cig lighter (included). I always use Sanyo Enloops and switched over to those, which also work great.

no audio jack, which is why I did the simple 10 cent mod...
 
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Robs, how long do the batteries last per charge? Also do you use regular double AA batteries? I was thinking of mounting it via velcro-(heavy duty) on top on the dash. Your thoughts?
get that 3M mushroom style plastic velcro. I have used that for years to mount the 9500 to the dash.
 

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I can't help but wonder if performance falls off as the batteries get weaker? A false sense of security might be worse than none at all.

I'd shop for a used Escort before I'd rely on a cheap new one.
 
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Blue STreak, thanks for your input. Fortunately, I have an unlimited supply of industrial "Energizer" Double AA battery supply. I plan on changing the batteries very often!!!
 

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I read that the battery powered ones work on a reduced duty cycle when running on internal batteries, leaving you potentially more vulnerable. Besides that, who wants to hassle with batteries all the time, going dead at the absolute wrong time, having to carry spares...........
 
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Technology has changed for the better.
Batteries going weaker has no effect, since they use voltage regulators that maintain the voltage exactly at a specific level, until the input voltage drops below acceptable levels. Sort of like digital TV compared to analog. It either works right or not at all.

These also use the displays readout to show you current status as % of charge, so you know all the time how they are doing. You also never need to change them if you don't want to (comes with 4 AA 2400 NiMH rechargables). While still using the unit, simply plug in the cig lighter plug into your power port for 30 minutes when power drops as low as you care to chance it, and good for another 6 to 20 hours. (sorry, again forget how long they last as it has not gone low on my short trips the past few months).

This has saved my butt a few times. Don't know about reduced range, as it has worked better on batteries than any direct wired detector I have ever used in 35 years of driving. Has warned me of radar more than a mile ahead.

google search found this model reviewed at RadarTest had these comments:

http://www.radartest.com/article.asp?articleid=10055

Best under $200 cordless unit. 4 out of 5 stars.
Rates excellent range.
They show tested range of over 5 miles.
The only cordless model to operate without a reduced duty cycle, with payoff of improved performance.

EDIT: I did use Dual Lock, not Velcro. This has 4 AA batteries, so it is a little large and heavy. Perhaps it will hold better on a dash shelf than on the master cylinder.
 
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Well, I ended up with the Whistler XTR 695SE, which actually talks to you, and connects to a 3' coiled cable cord, which connects to a wafer thin speaker used by Cardo Scala Rider. Works great and now, I feel a little bit more comfortable when I twist the throttle every once in a while. The last thing I'd want is a speeding ticket, which in turn would hike my insurance premium...
 
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