kiltman
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Not sure. I believe it’s just the model number.
Rear shock absorber advise
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Wilbers is definitely the way to go! I just had my front suspension done and will install Wilbers Nivomat very soon. From both I made a video (rear will follow, and part 2 of the front will air Friday the 26th of November). If you watch the video I also mention that you will get a discount if you mention 'Chiefpep' in your inquiry. Just send the guys at HK an e-mail. They send all over the world! Perhaps that helps with making your choice?! Good luck!
My St1100Y with 38,000 miles on it, didn't handle particularly well in the Spanish Picos mountains. It was fully loaded for touring and I am no longer built like a racing snake. Back home and unloaded, I still seem to feel every bump, although it definitely isn't bottoming out, at either the front or back.
So, I took my stock rear showa shock to the local specialist, where it would be £50 to test it, but was told in their opinion it was probably not worth doing given it was 22 years old and had done 38K miles already.
They suggested avoiding a new stock showa ( £440 ish ), as they are an unserviceable shock , but suggested YSS or Hagon, in the region of £350. Or a Wilbers at around £550, although they were unsure if the improved ride was worth the extra £200.
Is it worth the extra?
So, I took my stock rear showa shock to the local specialist, where it would be £50 to test it, but was told in their opinion it was probably not worth doing given it was 22 years old and had done 38K miles already.
They suggested avoiding a new stock showa ( £440 ish ), as they are an unserviceable shock , but suggested YSS or Hagon, in the region of £350. Or a Wilbers at around £550, although they were unsure if the improved ride was worth the extra £200.
Is it worth the extra?
You could send it to Holland...
kiltman
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I purchased the Hagon,and am very happy with it, it has improved my ride, much better than the progressive. I have heard good things about the Wilber and the YSS I can’t comment if the Wilber is better than the Hagon
Will this work for the ST1100 rear shocks?
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I have heard of folks getting the ST1100 rear shock 'rebuilt' but the performance improvement of a Wilbers or Hagon is noticeably better.
And the Wilbers (and IIRC) the Hagon are both designed to be rebuilt not like the stock ST1100 one.
I've got Wilbers (from Germany) on all four of my ST1100s and I am very happy with them.
This is my final verdict. Perhaps interesting
Every one has the own preference as to what to install which I have my opinion. I have a 1994 ST1100 with 46000miles on it and do enjoy the bike. I truly do like the handling of the bike but when pushed hard I was able to get the bike to wallow at steep angles but that was with the suspension in its current condition which had no idea when fork oil and shock had tinkered with. Over this last winter after online review etc I chose to go with the Traxxion Dynamic cartridge fork kit as well as the Penske 8983 rear shock with their 500lb single rate spring. At this time I can get pretty sporty with the bike with the initial settings but still working on the rebound for now on the front forks. Not trying to turn the bike into a race bike but do like stretch it's legs in the twisties!
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I recently fitted a Hagon rear shock and am very pleased with it.
Good Evening. Is that the Type 640 you got? https://www.wilbers.de/shop/en/Motorcycle/Honda/ST-1100-Pan-European-SC26/?year=1999
I recently put a YSS shock into my 1300 and have been super-happy with the result. I bought mine from Firefox Racing in the UK and they were good to deal with. I know they also make a shock for the 1100.
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Terry,,, not sure if you have mentioned before,,, but what spring rate did the yss come with,,, and did you preload it a bunch like it appears in the photo ?? thx, CAt'
The spring is a 180N/mm I believe. It does not appear to be excessively preloaded and the adjuster turns reasonably easily; just because there is a lot of thread showing above the adjuster, that does not mean that the spring has been compressed that much. I haven't attempted disassembly but I expect that the preload ring can be unwound far enough that the spring can be removed without needing an external compressor.
I have the spring set so there is just a touch of static sad unladen, and around 40mm with me on board. I have not bottomed it out (although I have tried) and the ride is very reminiscent of an Ohlins being both plush and firm at the same time. I had to crank a lot of rebound into the old stock shock (125000km) to prevent the bike weaving in bends and it was less comfy to ride as a result. I can't really fault the YSS at this point.
FYI - In answer to a recent query. - A new Hagon unit comes with the spring pre-load for an 'average' rider of between 75 and 100Kg and the damper set mid-way through its range.. Their standard set-up is explained like this:-
"Measure the spring length flat to flat. Assuming the shock is standard length and rate (and not lowered or uprated for heavier rider or full time two up), a standard spring is 060/250 with the 250 being the unfitted length of the coil spring. The default preload is 25mm. - So we assemble the shock, spin the ring down until it meets the spring and then compress the spring 25mm, so your fitted spring length measured flat to flat would be 225mm."
"Measure the spring length flat to flat. Assuming the shock is standard length and rate (and not lowered or uprated for heavier rider or full time two up), a standard spring is 060/250 with the 250 being the unfitted length of the coil spring. The default preload is 25mm. - So we assemble the shock, spin the ring down until it meets the spring and then compress the spring 25mm, so your fitted spring length measured flat to flat would be 225mm."