Suzuki's new Strom 800 - Competition for the new Transalp

[bdalameda]

Wee neither of these bikes are at dealers yet and they seem t be in direct competition with one another. Suzuki's V-Twin engines look like they are going away:

EICMA 2022: Suzuki Reveals the Suzuki V-Strom 800DE/DE Adventure - webBikeWorld

Suzuki has dropped the new V-Strom 800DE - and this new machine is making Honda’s new XL750 Transalp break out into a cold sweat.

www.webbikeworld.com

 

[okckeith]

I like what Suzuki and Honda are doing with both bikes. Now how much for them?

 

[dbst1300]

Both appear to be very good motorcycles…….I would not buy either unless equipped with cruise and tubeless wheels.
A flat with a tubed tire can be the biggest PITA due to heat, rain, cold, dirt, etc. I can change any flat, but at this time in my life want tubeless tires on any new motorcycle purchase.

 

[bdalameda]

It is interesting that Honda is reporting that the new Transalpine weighs 208kg wet while Suzuki specs say the new VStrom weighs 230kg. Quite a difference.

 

[dbst1300]

It is interesting that Honda is reporting that the new Transalpine weighs 208kg wet while Suzuki specs say the new VStrom weighs 230kg. Quite a difference.

More ground hugging weight for the Suzuki. Less HP and more weight.

 

[etalors]

The transalp is better looking. The suzuki has the mad mosquito look. However, the Vstrom could be the one to have more equipment such as cc.

 

[STRider]

It's not a proper V-Strom... Where's the oil filter offering to the rock gods?

 

[the Ferret]

270 degree P Twins are not my favorite power plant, even if they are all the rage these days. I've been riding one for the last year and a half and 21,000 miles and the " fake character" of a throbbing V twin is highly over rated imo. Accelerating at low rpms it feels like it's lugging even if its not. Not sure I would buy another 270 P Twin

 

[bdalameda]

I really like the 270deg engine in my Africa Twin. It has a nice growl to it but it is smooth. The parallel twin is also much more compact than a v engine. Also less expensive to manufacture.

 

[CDNolddude]

270 degree P Twins are not my favorite power plant, even if they are all the rage these days. I've been riding one for the last year and a half and 21,000 miles and the " fake character" of a throbbing V twin is highly over rated imo. Accelerating at low rpms it feels like it's lugging even if its not. Not sure I would buy another 270 P Twin

I agree with you. I really liked my 03 Bonnie with the smoother 360 degree P twin than the current 270 degree engines.

 

[GGely]

Repeat after me... there is only one true engine and it a V4 with gear driven cams... there is only one true engine and it a V4 with gear driven cams...

Wait... there is only one true engine and it is the 180* parallel twin in my old 1973 CB350... there is only one true engine and it is the 180* parallel twin in my old 1973 CB350...

Wait... there is only one true engine and it is the longitudinal 80* V twin in my old 1983 GL650 Interstate... there is only one true engine and it is the longitudinal 80* V twin in my old 1983 GL650 Interstate...

Wait... there is only one true engine and it is the longitudinal 90* V twin in a 1996 Moto Guzzi California... there is only one true engine and it is the longitudinal 90* V twin in a 1996 Moto Guzzi California...

Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait... Wait...

Never mind.

 

[the Ferret]

I agree with you. I really liked my 03 Bonnie with the smoother 360 degree P twin than the current 270 degree engines.

Yea my 03 Bonnie had a much better feeling engine than my brother's 2016 Bonnie with the 270 degree engine...at least to me.